The party's going well, now to get out the ol' acoustic guitar! - Classic or Dud?

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DIE YOU BASTARDS!

Alan T, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Something i suspect that will divide along geographical lines.

Alan T, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

First thing I do when I go to a party is scope out the acoustic guitar and hide it. I find loft hatches are very useful for this.

Pianos on the other hand are great at parties.

Pete, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think this is fine as long as it's taken to another room where people can either choose to come in and listen/play or just stay away. Lots of people love it, lots despise it. A discussion we were having at this year's ATP, actually.

Ally C, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is a good reason to have a party in a bar. I cannot remember the last time I was at a party & the ol' guitar thing happened, possibly cos it is many years since I was a student.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I bought a portable glockenspeil, I would take that to parties, but I hardly go to any parties.

JEL --, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At New Year Emma I hid Robin's guitar - but after midnight we all ended up round the Joanna.

Pete, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Never acceptable ever under any circumstances. It's like stopping a party and saying oh hold on, there's a programme I want to watch and turning a TV on.

Tom, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How can anyone think this is a good thing?

RickyT, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the worst thing in the entire world

gareth, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nobody should be allowed to play at parties except me cuz I rule, and when I want to play I expect everyone to drop what they're doing and listen

dave q, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The piano was raucous fun though and karaoke-tastic whereas a guitar would have been appalling.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Another question - how did guitars become so uncool?

Ally C, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

People like Dave Q playing them at parties. Guitars became uncool when every fourteen year old boy got one, learned two tunes very badly and only ever play - badly - at parties.

Pete, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah Pete is right - how many people think they can play a piano vs how many people think they can play guitar. The former generally can play it (look Dave Q look we Brits do respect technique!)

Tom, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This has never happened at any party I have been to ever.

Jeff W, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Count yourself lucky. I don't think there is a guitar in our house at the moment unless Ptee has smuggled one in.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yes, I have a guitar, but it is electrical so no fear of someone whipping it out at a party unless they want to plug in the well hidden amp.

Pete, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You are a traitor. If I ever catch you playing the guitar there will be Trouble with a capital T.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Well Hidden Amp = new LaMonte Young rec?

Andrew L, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Recently spent a weekend in The House Of Guitars (3 acoustic, 2 electric, 1 'customised' - god help us.) Only three of the people with access to these instruments were not 'just learning'. What better ingredients for a PARTY? (I have just about recovered now thanks.)

Archel, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh jesus I HATE this. I don't know what songs people play at your older person parties (or what else goes on, frankly I'm scared) but sometimes I go along to these parties with old schoolfriends of my mates from around where I live. And these people are kind of, well there's no nice way to say it MUSE FANS. Yet they all bloody love American Pie and Wonderwall oddly, oh wait anyone with a guitar loves those two. And you always get some bastard who knows the whole 30 verses to American Pie.

Jesus.....songs that people think are classic that aren't:American Pie.

Piano is probably worse, because piano versions of rock songs are really dreadful.

Ronan, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I never saw the point in learning to play other peoples songs.

j>e>l, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sing song round the old joanna though - cockernee tradition innit. Roll Out The Barrel, My Old Man Said Follow The Van....

Pete, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ptee #, get thee to the Grove Tavern behind my house on a Sunday night, they actually have a cockernee sing-song every Sunday, different people from the pub get up and do songs, I hate it, but flatmate loves it and regularly turns up and requests Maureen to sing Moon River.

chris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dud, by far. Usually its a barrage of Led Zepplin, Janes Addicition, and Radiohead done by someone who has no clue how to fucking play.

Chris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sometimes its even worse, when they do know how to play

gareth, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OMIGOD! Someone has just produced a guitar! Here! In the library!!!! Seriously! What have I done to deserve this?

Archel, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Shove it up there arse. NOW!

RickyT, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there = their

RickyT, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"there" arse? i expect better from you Mr. T!

though GRATE fun was had getting pissed at college and all going back to my room and singing elastica songs v loudly. with umamplified electric guitar accompaniment. oh yes!

katie, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh you have corrected yourself. consider yourself forgiven.

the Grammar Police, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ally C is OTM.

I might be tempted to agree with the naysayers if not for The Pinefox Factor. I suspect there's a few ILXers who'd feel hard done by if there *wasn't* an acoustic guitar interlude at parties attended by the PF. If it's not him playing though, then probably DUD.

I've hosted several parties with a definite acoustic gig element to them, but there was always an escape route for those repulsed by such carryings-on. When someone unsheathes the six-string in more extemporaneous circumstances, it's generally the very end of the night, most folks have gone home or it's three people stumbling through Smiths chords in the spare room.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thing is, for me it doesn't really matter if they're good or not, it still ruins the flow of the party by having everyone stand around, shut up and listen to the person performing. This is possibly why piano things are less annoying, the piano being a much louder instrument and therefore much more amenable to mass singalongs or continuations of conversation.

RickyT, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Big Brother producers are on our side - no musical instruments in the house for series 3!!

Tom, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ricky t is correct, its the intrusive nature that is the worst factor, reverent listening a go go? i don't think so. thats a no no bro.

but hey, what the hell kind of parties do you go to, this is whats confusing me, i'm just thinking of the one we had at chatterton road, house stupidly packed, no room for an acoustic weapon, i guess more like 5 or 6 am, yeah, there'd have been room, but at that time?. even worse...

gareth, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh dear, Gareth has just revealed us all to be Billy No Mateses. Or people with big houses.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe some clarification is in order. 'Acoustic parties' mentioned above were advertised as such on the invites - 'proper' bands strumming and singing away. Applause (or lighthearted abusive banter) at end of songs. 30-odd people in the kitchen drinking and paying no attention whatsoever (many probably oblivious to pop event occurring in living room) - which was ideal. People in living room = those who wanted to be there, listen, take photos, tape it, etc.

More impromptu riffage - almost never intrusive in my experience, as no-one tries it, alone, in a room full of revellers (even yr talented players), but rather off in some quiet corner of the flat, with a similarly minded individual (duelling geetars).

I fully expect some SE London chum to e-mail me now and explain how they really liked coming to our parties in Greenwich, but always had to leave, screaming, when the plectra came out.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If you have invited Steffan Basho Junghans to you party and it is he who has produced the guitar, classic. If it is Fred Durst, big dud.

In order to determine classic or dudness in all other cases, simply determine if your party guest is more like an East German genius weirdo or a Floridian lout.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not the talented players that are the problem Mike. In my experience the sequence goes.

1. Guitar is spotted.

2. Guitar becomes object of discussion. Here is where the canny guest makes a run for the other room. Guitar fiend does not show his hand at this stage.

3. Discussion shifts to music in general. Guitar fiend smiles inside, the fools have walked into his trap.

4. A song is mentioned that guitar fiend thinks he can play - in most horrendous experience this was Nirvana's version of "The Man Who Sold The World".

5. "Oh I can play that, I think I've worked out the chords for it anyway." "Oh really?" "Yes, look can I have a go?"

6. DOOMSDAY.

Tom, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom is correkt only at stage 2 the canny guest should in fact RUN AWAY to the nearest bouze retailer and vow to make some new friends.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mike, please have more parties. I think guitars are lovely and should be allowed. Except for that busker at Vauxhall station.

alix, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave Q party method - wait for someone else to advance to step #5 above, then smile condescendingly and say, "That chord's wrong, here, I'll show you." Ha ha ha, the weapon of party destruction is given to me without a struggle! Then - "But first, check out this song. It's called 'Mother Sky' by Can. I'm going to do it the same length as the record because this track has to build up for a long time to get the full effect!"

dave q, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, kitchen-dwellers are treated to unaccompanied extended extrapolations of "Dark Star" and "Jenny Ondioline". Rule #1 = 'play until too many strings have broken to continue". You have six of them so that should be ample time

dave q, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I rest my case re-getting the fuck out of there as opposed to moving to another room.

Emma, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. secretly wire up amps in all of your houses (and nearby pubs)
ii. party starts: bide time
iii. perform "hommage" to stefan jaworzyn/eugene chadbourne/pete "gustav metzger" townshend from comfort of own home
iv. end art (until someone forgets)

mark s, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I read "canny" as "canary", kind of like the canaries miners used to take with them into mines as an early-warning system for oxygen loss. I think if more people passed out and suffocated at parties when someone pulled out th acoustic guitar, the world would be a better place. (Dave Q, however, is given a free pass to inflict his brand of guerilla-guitarism on any party he desires. I wish I could be at a party where someone starts playing Can at people rather than campfire songs.)

People sticking up for pianos at parties have obviously never been to one where a drunk soprano has convinced herself that she can sing the Queen of the Night aria from "The Magic Flute". Or worse, the guy who won't leave the piano who can only play "Piano Man", but figures that song is good enough to sustain an HOUR of piano playing.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In the context of a party guitars are not half as bad as... wait fr'it... tam-tams :<

The Hegemon, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah Pete is right - how many people think they can play a piano vs how many people think they can play guitar. The former generally can play it

Am I the only one who has been at parties ruined by people who had piano lessons aged seven "hilariously" plinking their way through Chopsticks or the old Clothes Show theme tune? Or mangled piano renditions of Bohemian Rhapsody? And as mentioned before the piano is louder so you can't just stand in the other room or closer to a speaker and ignore it. At least most of the inept guitar-wielding I've heard at parties has been fairly quiet and in corners and not expecting anyone more than two feet away to listen. So, often dud, but I insist pianos are more dud.

r, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the old Clothes Show theme tune

Paninaro by the Pet Shop Boys? On the piano?! doesn't seem like a standard?

Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At some parties I've attended recently there has always been these two brothers Brian and Richard who think they are god gift to guitar and girls and they always decide to "jam". Most of the time its Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Radiohead and Zeppelin and its pretty bad. And usually they spend half the time arguing "Your not playing it right, godamn it!!" Occasionally I'll grab one of the guitars and piss them off because I can't play a damn lick, so I generally grab it and move my cigarette lighter on the strings to make some weird noise. Usually after that they stop. If not I proceed to "freestyle rap" over everything they play usually loudly from another room.

Chris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(Chris is obviously with Dave on GuitarBlock duty at any future party I have...)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no problem dan, i assume by your email your in massachusetts, I'll be more than happy to bust some rhymes.

Chris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How come nobody's mentioned that scene in Animal House yet?

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Agreed with Dan there. Now let's see Chris and Dave Q busk.

If you have invited Steffan Basho Junghans to you party and it is he who has produced the guitar, classic.

A most true statement.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ok, so my friend's getting married (I'm not invited), but the after- party is going to be held in a RECORDING STUDIO!! So they can all JAM!! No, they're not good musicians. No, I don't play anything. Yes, this idea sucks so bad I'm practically gagging. The next day we all meet up for a party on the beach, as well. I hate the beach.

Sean, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We have a whole pub night deicated to this kind of thing down here. *With art students.* And old men who seriously get into their vox organ playing kind of thing.

Bill, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm generally with the 'DIE YOU BASTARDS!' tendency here. I do, however, remember being in a cellar with friends in the late '70s, early hours of the morning, all of us stoned when most of the guests had gone, and out came (from memory) two acoustic guitars - and I loved it. If anyone wants to involve me again, they'll have to reproduce those circumstances, INCLUDING making it the '70s and me still a teenager. Good luck.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's a lot better than when they decide to start playing the drums!

Kris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Martin I agree that there are some exceptions, but generally its "DIE YOU BASTARDS." I've had some moments like yours and they have all been rather memorable. But its big partys where it kills the mood, especially when they turn the fucking music off so the whole party can listen to their shit.

Chris, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*plink* *plink* *strruuummm*

ahem.... "Ziggy played...... guitar" *plink* *scraaaaaape*...

...

...*strum*

Brian MacDonald, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

especially when they turn the fucking music off so the whole party can listen to their shit.

My point exactly; how about if the whole party is devoted to this? I'm dreading it.

Sean, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Animal house when John Belushi smashes the acoustic guitar over the silly folk hippie's head. That'd be my soloution.

Deadman, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"How come nobody's mentioned that scene in Animal House yet?

-- Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (christineindigo@juno.com), May 02, 2002.

-He He. I just caught this entry. -H

Deadman, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom's six-point descent into horror sounds *vaguely* familiar, but I've been involved in far too many social occasions in the last 3-4 years where the presence of the guitar was both urgent and key to really concur.

Anyways, I *used* to attempt to get folks interested in playing with ReBirth RB-338 at parties. "Joey Beltram? Yeah, I think I know the preset for 'Mentasm'... shall I have a go?"

Michael Jones, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

k-classick = i once got out my ems synthi a at a party and all had PHUN teiddling the knobs & switches
d-d-d-d-dud, d00d. i went to a hippy pot party many years ago (i did not join in) stoners were lying around a ghetto blaster, which was playing bob marley. SOME OV THEM WERE TOOTLING ALONG ON A FLUTE beat that. I imagine an inept DJ w/a pair of technics would be about as bad as it would get.

Norman Phay, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the acoustic guitar is good at family functions, i think, cos my mum has this friend raewyn who loves 50s music and country music BIG TIME. anyway we do duets to Everly Brothers songs to entertain my family. i enjoy singing to them, it beats talking to them!

in my circle of friends, nobody brings out an acoustic guitar, why would you bother when matt middleton inevitably starts singing queen songs, even the guitar solos?

di, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Singing Queen guitar solos = Klassical.

Deadman, Friday, 3 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
it happened again last night. The guitars came out...the same two chaps I discussed above busted them out again. This time it was a duet of "Madame George" which is a fantastic song, but not sung by two simps who sound as though they are kicking each other in the nads. Eventually Madame George turned into me yelling out "I wanna fuck you in the ass" as loud as possible after every verse.

Chris, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fifteen years pass...

DUD!

Especially if the person holding the guitar says "this one's called 'Wonderwall'" or plays the opening chords or even the first fucking chord.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

what if you're an introvert even after some beers and just want to pick out a little bit of stuff and not have to have anyone pay you the slightest heed

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/X8UAX3X.gif

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:22 (eight years ago)

I have been that guy w/guitar, ...

Two songs tops, expandable to two more if someone else sings. That's it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)

I find the worse the individual is at guitar, or the worse their taste, the more likely they are to pick up your guitar and play. The people who ask to play my guitars the most are the people I'd least like to hear play guitar, for both the aforementioned reasons.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:35 (eight years ago)

JiC OTM.

Austin, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:01 (eight years ago)

jic otm.

As a piano player I think this a dud on default though- its gimmicky and people are way too easily impressed with people that do this

Unchanging Window (Ross), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)

more here

T/F: You have been the person in the corner of the party with a guitar

for some reason, for me an essential thing is whether or not the person with the guitar is staring at others in the room, desperately searching for eye contact while they play the shitty song. i have seen that happen more than once and it is maybe my biggest pet peeve in the entire universe

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:42 (eight years ago)

drummers on par with guitar players at times though - I mean the ones who can't stop hitting a bongo

Unchanging Window (Ross), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:45 (eight years ago)

crossposted from other thread but i just ran across this again and it always makes me feel good: https://vine.co/v/ezMVqK2jTXF

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:48 (eight years ago)

There's a place for it but not past 22

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:49 (eight years ago)

I should say, I've not taken guitar to party, or used someone else's.

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:42 (eight years ago)

Pretty much one of the most indefensible bands ever, but a friend of mine got drunk once at my house with a guitar and did the "I'm still living with your...GHOST" line over and over, a dead on impression, but of course exaggerated, and I think it was teh haredest I've ever laughed. And just when it stopped being funny, it got really funny again. I remember going in to take a piss and hearing him, muted through the wall, still doing it, amusing only himself. Now I can't hear the name Everclear without thinking of that night, which was a really good time.

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﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 01:59 (eight years ago)

Totally depends on what guitar dude starts playing. I mean the intro to "mermaid smiles" would certainly make me do so as well

calstars, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 02:27 (eight years ago)


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