Far Side – Calvin & Hobbes – Bloom County

Bloom County is not competitive in this poll.

Mordy I will bet you five gummy bears it gets more than ten votes.

FIVE of them. Kosher bears.

Far Side has made me laugh out loud more than any other comic strip. I probably have more emotional attachment to C&H---this is cliche but they are impossible to compare!

voted Far Side because I think it will get short shrift but it was a HUGE part of my childhood.

C&H=G.O.A.T.

Bloom County

Calvin and Hobbes by a country mile. Hell, they'd win it for the "HELP I'M A BUG" strip alone.

I did love The Far Side, though.

Peanuts > all of these

Abbot, I will take that bet.

And I love gummy bears. So I will be anxiously awaiting them in the post.

Far Side just seems to tap into something that always make me giggle. like the one where the sheep looks up for a second and says "hey, we're eating GRASS!" (prob remembering that wrong)

and my all time fav is the "Horse Parliament" where it has this picture of all these horses looking at one with a sheepish grin on his face and it says: For the first time that anyone could remember, someone voted "yay."

I'm a cowboy howdy howdy howdy

C&H

cankles otm

this kind of has to be Calvin & Hobbes in a landslide, doesn't it?

c&h > far side 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county

I remember more bloom county strips than I do calvin & hobbes
the presidential campaigns and the bob woodward books and the lost at sea with cutter john saga! bloom county made for a great bizarro version of the decade, I have no idea why people would hate on it

Peanuts never sucked, but they didn't compare to the three here listed near the end of the 90s. I think it's a good poll, and possibly a great personality test. And wrt C&H, Peanuts kinda made C&H possible. Waterson would admit this.

I thought The Far Side would be close, but I found an old Far Side collection in my bookshelf recently, read it, and while a third of them were howlers, the others weren't nearly as funny as I once thought they were.

Bloom County/Outland.. I loved it at a specific time and place more than anything.. they made the late Reagan years/GWB I years tolerable, but Bloom County itself had a tolerance cap.

Winner is Calvin & Hobbes just by process of elimination.. however, even if the other two were measures higher, I still think Calvin & Hobbes would win. It's ageless and amazing.

C&H easy

Any time anyone ever uses the expression "(x) off a duck's back" I think of the Far Side cartoon with researchers in a lab pouring a list of substances over a duck. They have crossed off "milk" and "orange juice" and next on the list is "acid".

I mean Bloom Cty is pretty great in its way but it never gets beyond its essential Pogo+Doonesbury mashup factor. C&H is very singular. Far Side is good but the actual cartooning is nothing special.

Had Dilbert died in the late 90s, it could have been a contender. Dilbert's quality level dropped just as badly as the dot com bust at the same time.

but still, Zimbu!

i dont remember the boston globe ever carrying bloom county, i never read it at least if they did

calvin & hobbes beats the far side for me, though i love them both

Peanuts is better than pretty much everything so I don't see what the point is in bringing Schulz up really.

I like all three of these but I (arbitrarily, I admit) put FS in a separate category: one panel comics.

I would never have included Dilbert.

M. White, what else is in one-panel besides that, Family Circus & Denace the Menace?

Or DENNIS for that matter?

Dilbert rightfully excluded

um there are lots of one panel strips - Marmaduke, the Yellow Kid, etc.

i love bloom county but it's kinda of its time and doesn't play as well as it once did, though it's still hilarious. far side is really good. calvin and hobbes basically ruined comic strips for me, though, because everything in its wake looks like shit.

There is only one really excellent option here.

I wouldn't count Yellow Kid bcz I don't think they'd really 'invented' panels yet? I mean there is a million things going on in that shit and it was half a page big.

What was that one with the kid who didn't talk and his face kind of looked like some butt cheeks? I am mad at myself for not remembering this.

I am sure I am in the minority here, but I think 'Rose is Rose' is a decent heir to Watterson's hole, at least in terms of visual playfulness.

Looking at the state of newspaper comics over the last 20 years C&H becomes even more incredible. Watterson was on a completely different level.

well, early Dilbert is kinda slept on, which was my point. It wasn't syndicated nearly enough as it was when it started to suck.

Far Side = What if Gahan Wilson couldn't draw.

Bloom County = What if Garry Trudeau wanted to make a shitload of money on plush dolls

> What was that one with the kid who didn't talk and his face kind of looked like some butt cheeks? I am mad at myself for not remembering this.

Henry

The only comic I think that comes close to the sheer beauty of Watterson's work is Mutts. Far Side was very clever but the art was also very rudimentary and Brethed's work was excellent but never as wistful.

thx

I was looking up Harvey and like, "NO not the freaking Casper publishing company!"

I remember Henry best bcz of a Mad magazine thing about "if all the comics characters aged like in Gasoline Alley." Henry looked the same, and he revealed he'd been an old man the whole time.

I always hated Mutts. It has all the aesthetics of a classic daily cartoon without being classic whatsoever.

> I am sure I am in the minority here, but I think 'Rose is Rose' is a decent heir to Watterson's hole, at least in terms of visual playfulness.

It is a nicely drawn strip, but it's also kind of like being smothered to death with a scented candle.

remember when watterson decided his sunday strips would take up half a page, and nobody could fukkin stop him? WHAT A PIMP.

i love far side but i sorta wonder if it deserves blame for the likes of xkcd

I like Mutts but then I'm a sucker for pet humor.

I admit half of what I like about Rose is Rose is Jimbo's wish that Rose was a fattey:

http://www.nightswimming.com/rose/jimbo/dream056.jpg

I totally agree with M. White here - Mutts is the last great newspaper strip. Its pretty clear the medium is dead these days, and will not be coming back.

The highlight of my funny pages reading these days is Keith Knight's new thing.

I also enjoy Edge City and My Cage.

I think part of why I dislike Mutts is that it became syndicated in L.A. right around the time I discovered Ren & Stimpy. Obviously, you can't compare animated cartoons vs. daily non-animated cartoons, but Ren & Stimpy kinda changed things for me, so Mutts just laid there in its own twee lifeless world on the sidelines. Matter of perspective and time.

As far as the creative process and the charity on McDonnell's part, that's great! I would make a meal for Patrick McDonnell.

Of C&H and TFS, the former is easily the more well drawn, and the funnier when on form, though its occasional sentimentality counts against it. Don't think Bloom County ever really caught on this side of the Atlantic, at least I've never read it.

Bloom County was so of its time, it's a little unfair to compare it to the other two.

i think calvin readers are mostly the super grover generation

i can understand not liking calvin and hobbes if u were just a little too old to be raised at its teat because while it was my favorite thing ever when i was a kid, i remember digging out my old books at a backlashy age and thinking it was kind of preachy. but then i got the hardback complete edition a few years later and i was a big sappy mess rereading it

i never got into bloom county as a kid, i didn't know what the hell was going on and the art was kind of gross looking

for some reason i had nightmares inspired by the angry reader letters included in the 10th anniversary far side book

calvin readers are from the generation that understands that "This no competition at all" is not a sentence

"i think calvin readers are mostly the super grover generation"

No way. I loved Super Grover.

I think when Calvin & Hobbes was big, I was just more into reading Wolverine and Dark Knight and D&D Dragonlance novels.

I said I wouldn't read this thread - because I'm a big C&H supporter...
I said I understand why Waterson gets angry when people rip him off...
BUT AT THE SAME TIME I admit to trying to imitate his comic and sell the design to Threadless.com. Unfortunately, during the critique phase of my posting on threadless, everyone hated it. This is as far as I got (I could only use 8 colors):

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1897/melvinvr8.gif

My 7-year-old son just used this line when we did the old cookie & milk for Santa routine tonight :)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2wcracx.jpg

What is Bloom County? I've never heard of it. Anyway, I liked Far Side even if the humor is a bit too Monty Python, but Calvin & Hobbes are an irreplacable piece of my childhood. I still rock the Lazy Sunday Book sometimes.

onimo I hope you used that situation to your drunken advantage

C&H could win just on the strength of various Hobbes-pouncing-on-Calvin sequences.

This poll needs to end so I can get my gummy bears from Abbot.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

OMG EXCITING THIS ENDS TOMORROW?? GUMMY BEARS HERE I COME

Aliases and sock puppets to thread!

Calvin and Hobbes for Spaceman Spiff alone.

i love all 3, but obviously calvin & hobbes for all the obvious reasons -- artwork, artwork, artwork. i probably laughed equally, more or less, at all 3 strips, but bill waterson is a great comix artist and larson and breathed -- even though they sort of ingeniously found ways to make their limited draftsmanship work for their strips -- are not.

also an interesting grouping because i think all 3 are essentially 2nd-tier strips (or bottom half of the top tier strips) that live in the shadow of superior comics: peanuts for c&h, doonesbury for bloom county, charles addams for the far side.

watterson, that is. see, i never forget how to spell schulz.

(also the far side probably borrowed as much from gahan wilson as addams, i know.)

Second-generation, sure. Dunno about second-tier.

all are great but given that breathed punchlines pop into my head every other day at random times (not to mention the fact that i own even bloom county collection ever) i voted for bill'n'opus.

I actually thought Bloom Country was Doonesbury for many years.

County.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

wo

I was expecting C&H to be more dominant, actually.

justice is served

damn. correct though.

ilx otm

Whatever happened to Watterson after C & H ended? Has he done any comic work at all?

He has a card game with Thomas Pynchon.

(Real answer - apparently he paints. He either sells his stuff under a tightly-guarded pseudonym or not at all.)

He wrote a review of the Schulz biography that came out last year.

I just realized Mordy owes me some gummi bears (see top of thread).

This poll needs to end so I can get my gummy bears from Abbot.

― Mordy, Wednesday, January 7, 2009 5:33 AM (1 year ago)

So wrong.

LOVE C+H but to quote Woody Allen the 'key joke of my adult life' is the Far Side single frame of 2 gorillas under a tree with a pile of bananas on 1 side of them and some skins on the other. i think about it with frightening regularity. still kills/ amazes me. can't find it online though.

i'm missing the punchlin of that one i think.

favourite far side is the buck pressed flat against a tree, with a hunter silhouetted in the background- "ok, stay calm, who do i know that might want to kill me? think, godammit, think"

We agreed on 5, right? :)

I have so much love for all three of these, but C&H just rules.

Stupendous Man, Spaceman Spiff, the Transmogrifier, Hobbes' running critique on human beings, ROSSLYN, and on and on.

hobbes dancing

Calvin realizing that owls don't have to go to school.

yeah the transmogrifier! man i loved that series of strips. also the dead racoon one which would being tears to the eyes of a statue :'(

Was just thinking about making this poll if it hadn't happened already.

Did you ever get your gummy bears Abbott?

ward was OTM about 'cul de sac,' it's so good! and bill watterson agrees with us!

cul de sac rocks

LOVE C+H but to quote Woody Allen the 'key joke of my adult life' is the Far Side single frame of 2 gorillas under a tree with a pile of bananas on 1 side of them and some skins on the other. i think about it with frightening regularity. still kills/ amazes me. can't find it online though.

― piscesx, Monday, November 8, 2010 8:40 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get it?

I have a long-held challop that C&H is cute and fun and imaginative but not really ever funny. But I've learned that expressing anything even close to this in conversation, even in a very hedged and otherwise appreciative way, has the same effect on most of my peers as stabbing them in the heart. It's like, unforgivable.

Far Side and Bloom County have both made me laugh way more (you know, years ago) than C&H, Far Side is the 'best' out of them + Bloom County is my personal fav.

I found C&H outrageously funny when I was about 10, but now I'm 32 I definitely find it cute and fun an imaginitive and (this is the killer) amazingly, astoundingly moving in a wistful / nostalgia way.

I don't understand the thing about the gorillas and the bananas either.

Is this the pic?

http://flexitarian.christinesusskind.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/larson-bananas.jpg

(First GIS result)

ILX needs more breathed love