Why can't I just ask gurls out? (Do not read if you wuv me)

(if only I listened to my own advice *sigh*)

All men have to do is WHINGE A LOT about their emotions while we have to DO all the stuff.

You can see why i loved that dating makeover show that was on late last year :-)

If you were hungry you wouldn't be too scared to go into a sandwich shop and ask for a sarnie would you? So if you are hungry for lurve just ASK FOR IT.

Saying to [x] person 'do you fancy a beer' is not asking them on a date. It can be called a date in hindsight if you then actually get together but as it did not haf NERVOUS ROMANTIC TENSION beforehand I am loath to call it a full on date. I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON A FULL ON DATE wot with candles and lots of forks and stuff. Chiz. No-one takes me to the Ivy. Maybe this is due to my GREASY FOREHEAD urgh go away greasy forehead.

This happened to me. NB - this is not true

Step 1: get tanked on booze.

Step 2: discover that you have a girlfriend.

well, that's how it used to go. I have only once in my life asked someone out on a date. And she is now my live in special friend! Hurrah, learn from me Alan.

1) Get tanked on bouze
2) Discover you, like the kids of HollyoakZoR haf the CLAP
3) Put up posters saying JAMIE IS A SLAAAAAAAAAG!!!

Ahem.

Things are so much handier in countries with arranged marriages.

DV's way seems the most natural, and the easiest. Actually I'm terrible like this, I remember the beginning of my last relationship, I was talking to the girl for about two hours and holding her hand before actually getting the sense to just snog her.

Still after the way that all turned out I am off women indefinitely. I hope that's not a mutual thing.

Wonder why I'm so emotionally repressed? Ah well, back to listening to the entire back catalogue of the Wedding Present.

actually, what do girls like boys to talk about?

- Self-important waffle about whatever you're interested in (not Dr Who, tho)

- Lots of umming and ahhing and agreeing with whatever they say.

I can't imagine a third way.

Here we go again. Though I have in fact been there.

These days when it comes to dates I'm just asking and getting direct answers, mostly positive. Nothing to be afraid about, I find. :-) And I too have all them Wedding Present albums and things, so you can't blame that!

Because if we males are rejected, we therefore conclude that we are unworthy and will never have sex (or have it again), and commence with another lonely round of wanking. Think on that next time you turn someone perfectly worthy because he doesn't pull down a six-figure salary, have masses of muscles and a square jaw and own a sleek red sports car, you horrible people!

Hey wait, maybe those Wedding Present songs *have* gotten to me.

Salvation!

2) suggest that you both go to film X, concert X, play X...

You have thus avoided the awkward "do you want to go out sometime" routine. This plan involves no direct question!

You have her phone number so, you should be able to complete phase one, and chat at work etc. Then move on to phase two...

This should avoid the whole "all or nothing" date pressure thing.

(I hope this post sounds sincere, it's supposed to be!)

Mitch, keep up. I haven't seen Amelie-alike since I spoke to her (boo), except one time when she was surrounded by burly French guys and I ran away (because I was in a hurry). I have however seen charming Laura (see the Ned/lucky thread), who seems to like me alot (maybe) but I don't know romantically, and I don't want to say anything because she's very shy and squeamish and that kind of tension could scare away completely. HELP.

Okay, Alan, this indicates that you are a Good Person (if the woman you're trying to ask out asks for references, refer her to me). Therefore, you deserve the company of another Good Person, and the woman you've described sounds like a Good Person. Give it a shot.

(Hmmm...could my problems with the man-woman thing all stem from that I tend to fall for Bad Guys?)

and how the haagen dazszs gotr into yr bathrobe i'll nevah know boom tisch

NB this still does not mean the next time I bump into Legolas the Elf that I will come on to him.

While I would not deny the usefulness of delicious succulent alcohol it is important to remember that people cannot be held responsible for their actions when pissed, and this combined with the phenomena of beer / vodka goggles and brewer's droop means that getting off with someone when you are both drunk is not necessarily a good start to a relationship.

i can feed cats.
― Alan T, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Alang you are merely a symptom of a wider societal malaise.
If you were hungry you wouldn't be too scared to go into a sandwich shop and ask for a sarnie would you? So if you are hungry for lurve just ASK FOR IT.

― Emma, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is one of the cutest interchanges I have ever read on ILX.

is she telling him to get a prostitute?

I've spent a lot of the day mentally preparing myself to ask someone in the office out. I don't see her very often even though we work in the same "area". When the opportunity arose, all I could get out was to ask her if it was OK if I called her some time.
― emotional cripple, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 01:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol graham