What are your nominations? And is mine full of shit?
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The Good Life
Ever Decreasing Circles
― Nick, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I still like the idea that if you drop a cassette recorder that everyone would immediately take notice and be aghast instead of being too drunk/stoned/entranced with Michael Mcdonald to care or even notice in the first place.
Favorite sitcom? I watched far too much television in the 80's, it's too tough a call. Perhaps ILE fave We Got It Maid? No. I suspect it would be something with a very high quotient of Very Special episodes.
― Nicole, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― p f. sloane, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
EDC is in theory an amazing sitcom but I can't shake the feeling that it is poor.
Terry And June is brilliant in the memory for every episode being the same - my boss is coming to tea and I have hit a golf ball onto a lorry bound for France.
Hi-De-Hi is underrated.
Dad's Army is rated almost exactly right.
Only Fools And Horses was actually good until they got love lives.
Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads?
― Tom, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
but the best of all has to be Fawlty Towers
― Ed, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Hi-Di-Hi! was rubbish, Tom. Don't give me that critical reappraisal shit.
Whenever I watch Cheers these days, it doesn't seem as good as it once did. Am I wrong?
Then there's the episode where Rerun joins a Southern California cult that worships a head of lettuce (named Ralph). And Mama (Mabel King, who was quite a hefty woman) busts up the scam by posing as Mother Nature. Funny shit.
Today's bit of useless information: apparently, Rerun was one of the first break dancers.
I've never got into Seinfeld, am I missing out?
― cabbage, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mike Hanle y, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Nick: the only really bad thing about Hi De Hi is Su Pollard (who is admittedly REALLY BAD).
THE SIMPSONS.
I don't really consider the Simpsons to be a sitcom, it's a genre all it's own.
― AP, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Geoff, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The number of people I've known who've said "Nah, I've never really got into Seinfeld" and then have ended up totally obsessed suggests to me that not liking Seinfeld is just a schoolboy error. You gotta get past the slap bass and bad shirts!
:-)
The Odd Couple, Seinfeld, The Young Ones, Get a Life.
Best, in my eyes: early Drew Carey Show, News Radio, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City (pre-Sheen), pre-canned-laugh M*A*S*H and ... umm ... the Dick Van Dyke Show?
― David Raposa, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Emma, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
My sitcoms: Bewitched, M*A*S*H, Father Ted (which was very nearly perfect) but mostly I am irritated by them. In Japan, Bewitched is called Endora because they don't show ones without Agnes Moorhead in.
― suzy, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Joe, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Seinfeld is OK, except for THE DEVIL'S BASS that does a stupid jazzy thing whenever the scene changes. Also, I think I am the only person I know who cannot stand the Royle Family.
― Madchen, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kerry, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
The Good Life is fun in parts though class / culture conflict v. dated, but Ever Decreasing Circles is GRATE: I suppose what really does it for me is the absurdism, the ridiculous, endlessly- intensifying panic which everyone *just about* manages to hold back. Particularly great Briers lines: "Who would stick a skip outside your house?" and "But she shot someone's *cat* once!" (they don't sound that special written down but it's all in the delivery). Richard Briers was, incidentally, the only person hoaxed by Brass Eye that I liked enough to think "Why did Chris have to do that to him?"
OFAH is on the whole brilliant: yuppie-era episodes v. overrated though. The faster, more down-to-earth earlier 30-minute ones may have been the best: 1985 and 1986 series particularly ace.
Perrin and Fawlty Towers probably the best British comedies of the 70s but whether either counts as sitcom is a moot point (Perrin more ongoing series, FT more of a farce). Both, viewed today, turn the trick of being very very funny *and* revealing a lot about the British psyche of the time (interesting thing about FT is that it has dated more than its "timeless" reputation suggests: attitude of and towards US tourists, uncomplaining public, Basil recoiling in horror at black doctor, references to "Finnish floozy" etc.).
This decade: love The League Of Gentlemen though it has lost some of the humour as it concentrates more and more on grotesques. Phoenix Nights would have been better if it had depended less on caricature Northern-ness: Peter Kay's humour is, to me, overtly "do you get the reference? eh? eh?" which is NOT FUCKING FUNNY in itself. You need something more.
Terry and June seems so much longer ago than it is ...
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― JC, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
2) Dad's Army
3) Taxi
Much as it pains me to disagree with Dastoor about anything, Seinfeld is abysmal, and I will never change my mind about this.
― stevie t, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
talking about comedy in general, i notice that people like us has been on recently for another series (although this might have finished about 2 months ago: source 'prizd' enlgish magazine that someone bought over with them.... so, what do people think of people like us? i think it is fucking funny but no one ever talks about it, it never gets any hype etc.
i mean, its not groundbreaking or anything, but just well funny in a modest way,. some of this stiving to be freshhhhhhhh like chriss morris an the rest can be a bit dull after a while....
― ambrose, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally C, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― anthony, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― duane, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― qc, Monday, 19 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I absolutley hate friends, that show gets on my nerves. The only reason they pay the actors so much is not because it's a good show it's because NBC has nothing else. They must stop calling it Must see tv. I also don't understand why so many people like three's company John Ritter is about as funny as billy crystal. (Bill crystal is the most unfunniest person alive, I hated him on SNL.)
― Ashley, Saturday, 8 February 2003 22:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 February 2003 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)
During my recent visit to the land of non-stop sit-coms I enjoyed 'Dinner Ladies', 'The Good Life' and a weird documentary about a poison pen campaign in a small village. I watched it because nowadays they tip you off about bad language before the programme starts. 'Joanne Something has a big cunt' - how often do you hear poetry like that on television?
I think the best one ever is 'Steptoe and Son'.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 9 February 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)
Top British and US sitcoms
1 The Phil Silvers Show (US) 2 Seinfeld (US) 3 Fawlty Towers (UK) 4 Porridge (UK) 5 Yes, Minister (UK) 6 Frasier ( US) 7 M*A*S*H (US) 8 Till Death Us Do Part (UK) 9 Hancock's Half-Hour/ Hancock (UK) 10 Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads? (UK) 11 The Larry Sanders Show (US) 12 The Mary Tyler Moore Show (US) 13 The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin (UK) 14 The Good Life (UK) 15 Steptoe and Son (UK) 16 Only Fools and Horses (UK) 17 Cheers (UK) 18 The Dick Van Dyke Show (US) 19 Dad's Army (UK) 20 The Simpsons (US)
Worst British Sitcoms 1 Sir Yellow (Yorkshire) 2 Up the Elephant and Round the Castle (Thames) 3 Trouble In Mind (LWT) 4 Take a Letter, Mr Jones (Southerni) 5 My Husband and I (1987-88) (Yorkshire) 6 Constant Hot Water (Central) 7 High and Dry (Yorkshire) 8 Come Back Mrs Noah (BBC) 9 Tripper's Day/Slinger's Day (Thames) 10 High Street Blues (LWT) 11 Room Service (Thames) 12 Romany Jones (LWT) 13 Rule Britannia (Thames) 14 Selwyn (Yorkshire) 15 Don't Drink the Water (LWT) 16 Odd Man Out (Thames) 17 In for a Penny ( LWT) 18 Plaza Patrol (Yorkshire) 19 Yus My Dear (LWT) 20 Bottle Boys (LWT)
I know nothing about any of the top 20 worst ones except for 'Up the Elephant and Round the Castle'. 'Take A Letter Mr Jones' sounds hilariously predictable though.
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)
i love sitcoms
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)
It was, too: male secretary slogs/acts as minder for female boss. Ooh, the hilarity.
Still watched it though, as it had Mr. Humphries from Are You Being Served?
The greatest sitcoms, IMHO:
Fawlty TowersDick Van Dyke showCouplingFather TedOdd CoupleCosby ShowCheersFrasier (for the first 6 seasons, anyhoo)All In The FamilyWaiting for God
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
For once and for all: can someone tell me the difference between Coupling and Two Pints of Lager? Which one has Ralf Little in? Is that the one with the guy who used to be in Hollyoaks?
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
"Two Pints of Lager...."
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)
Ta-daaaaaaa.
― Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 2 October 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 2 October 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 2 October 2003 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 2 October 2003 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 2 October 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)
I was referring to the UK edition - very depressing and claustrophobic, IN A GOOD WAY. wouldn't mind seeing the US version, not least because it lasted a season longer. I thought they were releasing Dear John on DVD around the same time the Citizen Smith box 'dropped', but i haven't seen it anywhere... Still love the episode with ralph the mobile DJ.
surprised Red Dwarf doesn't get more love
I loved the first season; from then on it kind of gets lost in this desire to e a catch-phrase-heavy comedy for the Star Trek loving Colin Hunts of the world...
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 2 October 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Sad to see no mention in either best or worst of Milligan's "Curry & Chips"...
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― robster (robster), Thursday, 2 October 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 2 October 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 2 October 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 2 October 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)
But did it work? It was worryingly sentimental.
On the other hand, it was incredibly refreshing to get away from the comedy of embarrassment with which Gervais and others have dominated the screens in the last few years.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)
― You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)
Caroline Aherne should write more telly.
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)
I saw most of the first series years ago, and got bored with it after that. This episode seemed to have upped the stakes a bit in terms its ambitions as a comedy.
I enjoyed it tremendously, so I feel a bit mean criticising, it but you could feel the heartstrings being pulled on a bit too much.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)
All In The FamilySeinfeldCheers (before Rebecca was a complete loser and the show started jumping sharks with celebrities, etc.)FrazierMary Tyler MooreTaxiSoapCosby ShowStark Raving MadMASH (before Alan Alda took things too seriously)WKRP In Cincinnati -absolute best approach to a serious episode of all time had to be the one with The Who concert when people were trampled to death due to festival seating. It paid proper respects but still managed to be a funny sitcom. Additionally I think I'd have to say that Johnny Fever is my favourite television character of all time, followed pretty closely by Venus Flytrap. Two characters who really managed to be "cool" without being tough guys. Too many classic moments with Johnny and drugs too!
― shorty (shorty), Monday, 30 October 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)
― a.b. (alanbanana), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)
Generally, however, it tried too hard, and yet not hard enough.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 30 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)
― ;_; (blueski), Monday, 30 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)
Was watching an early ep of "Yes Minister" when a thought popped up:
Have there been any good/great American sitcoms that deal with hierarchy? You have English shows like YM or Blackadder that are all about it, but the only American one I can think of is maybe 30 Rock. Does Gomer Pyle USMC count?
And YM and 30 Rock have a similar thing with their characters going on, only the relative power levels are swapped.
― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)
Ken Berry was a very talented, musical performer who showed his best stuff on Carol Burnett. But for my generation, he'll always be known for this (and no, you couldn't do this opening today). RIP. https://t.co/QLc03uzdHg— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) December 2, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
btw I'm assuming Perrin is talking about irreverence toward the military -- no longer permitted on SNL -- not "Where paleface and r*dskin both turn chicken"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:50 (seven years ago)
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I was concerned I might agree with him for once.
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)
keep on flakin' and supporting the cavalry
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:58 (seven years ago)