Goodfellas vs Scarface

prediction: scarface in a walk

that would be a sad day

I'm gonna vote for Goodfellas, vote for Goodfellas

scarface: the movie where the word "fuck" is used more than any other film ever made.

more than the big lebowski? voted goodfellas regardless

both have their faults,but Goodfellas has less

actually, it's a long way down the list. even lower than goodfellas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_that_most_frequently_use_the_word_%22fuck%22

soz, was being pedantic :(

in defense of Scarface, the chainsaw-in-cheap-motel-shower scene is fucking raw

about the use of "fuck" in scarface ,take a look at that:
xxxpost

hah, figures a bunch of movies i really like would be on that list

"soz, was being pedantic :("

no, it was me being wrong !

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Both great, Goodfellas a lot, lot greater.

goodfellas in a heartbeat

i dunno dom, is this even a thing?

Jacking this ^^^

i dunno dom, is this even a thing?

― special guest stars mark bronson, Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:21 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I agree, but I get the feeling ILx will vote towards Scarface.

i can't believe that posters of that painting aren't more widely available for students.

I think these movies represent a generational shift: younger audiences associating with Scarface's maverick, independent quest for success (much like the recent past's rockstar hedge fund managers), and Goodfellas appealing to the older crowd with its focus on kin relations

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rofl

im voting scarface unapologetically, mostly cuz i admire his maverick independence

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― carne asada, Saturday, February 7, 2009 2:19 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sooo otm

J0rdan will be the bellweather for this - there's a lot of young cats for whom Scarface is almost totemic in its What We Mean When We Say "Great Movie" status. I love De Palma, but then again, I'm a guy who loves slasher movies and prefers cheap candy to expensive chocolate. People who give a shit about, y'know, good direction & scripts should vote Goodfellas. People who're drawn to I'm-gonna-carry-this-movie-on-my-back actor-as-auteur shit aren't gonna be able to resist Pacino.

close bet for me 'cause I like the operatic violence of Scarface plus love Pacino from Dog Day Afternoon through Scarface but c'mon can anybody actually make the case for Scarface as a better movie? I'm guessing "no."

goodfellas is just a better, funnier movie, scarface has plenty goin for it but it lulls in a lot of places

I have issues with Al Pacino's acting. It grates on me even more than DeNiro's acting, which also grates on me, but less gratingly. Therefore, Goodfellas, by default.

im the biggest pacino defender on this bitch and im still voting for goodfellas

also deniro's best perf i think

i'll go with goodfellas.

personally, give me the '32 scarface any day. it's not on every dorm room wall, for one thing.

Is that the one where a dying Cagney gets dropped off at his mom's house or something?

Never mind. My memory is getting worser.

"give me the '32 scarface any day"

OTM. The Pacino Scarface seems almost on a level with Sin City. Goodfellas is Scorsese at the top of his game.

"give me the '32 scarface any day"

boo, groan.

C'mon!

Scorsese or DePalma?
Karen Hill or Elvira?
Paul Sorvino or Robert Loggia?

of course, in one of those Lincoln/JFK things, the protagonist in Goodfellas is arrested after visiting Miami (and avoids certain death by not going a second time) while the protagonist in Scarface begins his eventual downfall after a trip to New York.

it's funny, the original scarface used to be considered one of the best movies ever made in america — godard called it one of his biggest influences. it's totally vanished off everyone's radar since the remake. obviously it's not particularly shocking anymore, but in some ways it seems more contemporary and exciting and relevant (fast-paced, funny, non-preachy) than the de palma/pacino version, which lasts at least an hour too long and really isn't even a 'good' movie by any reasonable standard.

xpost yeah whatever nrq your 'old movies are boring tosh' routine is drearily familiar at this point, thanks.

Goodfellas for these reasons:

-The Edward G. Robinson version of Scarface is better
-When I saw the DePalma I didn't get any joy out of it, not even any schadenfreude. It was a self-important slog.
-While I understand J0hn's point about Pacino carrying the movie on his back, that's a problem for me: you can see him working as he spends the whole movie going I AM ACTING!!
-"Am I funny to you?"
-Save for Terminator, I hate most things set in the 80s

do you hate ghostbusters

It's Paul Muni, not Edward G. Your memory's as bad as mine, mister.

No that's fair I do love ghostbusters xp

oh goodness I've mixed up Little Caesar with Scarface xp

basically i'm wrong about everything ignore me guys

you thought edward g robinson was in ghostbusters

FUCK YOU.

PAY ME.

Played the marshmallow dude didn't he?

i can't believe that posters of that painting aren't more widely available for students.

Or for ME!

scarface is fucking silly. it's awesome, bombastic, highly-watchable silly, but yeah. Goodfellas.

one dog goes one way, du udda dog goes da udda way.

a cartoon for retarded gangstas

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:41 PM

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Somebody called me out on some other thread for hating the music in Scarface, but I remember it really annoying me when I first saw it. Whereas Goodfellas has a like three of my favorite music/film scene combinations ever - the end of Layla with the killed heist people, the coked out "Jump Into The Fire" helicopter paranoia, and the first date at the Copacabana scene with the Crystals which might be my favorite scene in any movie ever. I haven't seen Scarface in ages though.

Also when my friends and I invented the "Make A Dirty Wish" foundation for fulfilling the fantasies of terminally ill adults, I decided that mine would be to wear a cheesy 80's suit and shoot up a mansion with M16s and grenade launchers with occasional breaks to snort from big pile of coke.

I like both movies very much but Goodfellas by a mile.

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― s1ocki, Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol YES, i crack up just thinking abt deniro in that scene, all decked out in granny glasses and an old man sweater iirc~~~

i've re-enacted that scene with my friends 100000000 times

"No, it's just over there. Around the corner. Yeah, it's okay, just over there."

watching Scarface tonight because of this thread - I gather that the rare-air cinemaphiles won't have any of DePalma at all, but I have to say, for tone he's worthwhile. The zoom after Montana picks up Elvira in the Cadillac - she's just gotten in, he walks around the back and gets in while she's doing a line - it could as easily be Dario Argento as Brian De Palma. Which is when I like De Palma, because I love Dario Argento. The whole movie is full of long segments that build almost musically - a soft tense moment opens up into a greater tension, and then half-dissipates but not entirely - it's good work. I don't think one needs to call Scarface "a cartoon" when saying that Goodfellas is (as I think it clearly is) the better film. De Palma did something worthwhile with it, I think. Although what he didn't do - and what I think he imagined he would do - was make some great point about American government or society or culture or whatever. His strengths aren't in articulating a message. Really, a berserker De Palma who'd just embrace chaos might make great films.

Goodfellas, in every conceivable way.

j0hn d i love de palma and i think he HAS made great films and i still voted for goodfellas

Really, a berserker De Palma who'd just embrace chaos might make great films.

― J0hn D., Sunday, February 8, 2009 2:01 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this does describe a lot of BDP films. and there is no doubt dude is kind of a cinematic genius fwiw.

s1ock wut r ur fav deplma joints

so many... obsession, body double, blow out, femme fatale, carlito's freaking way... got a real soft spot for MI1 too

femme fatale and blow out are undeniable imo

fuckin love carlitos so much, especially the last 30 mins

all of dude's movies have some crucial horrible flaw but i dont really care

all of dude's movies have some crucial horrible flaw but i dont really care

I feel pretty much the inverse of this -- all of his movies may have some redeeming work in them, but that doesn't stop me from needing a shower after I watch them.

i've much love for carlito's & blow out.

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to me Scarface is more of a great cult B movie.

Goodfellas... no contenst.

The secret to Scarface is seeing it in a theater with Giorgio Moroder's soundtrack blaring out at you. It's a great movie and berserker chaotic De Palma is a heck of a lot of fun.

Still, I voted Goodfellas in a heartbeat.

if you live in a world where scarface is the better, you a.) dumb, and b.) youngtrendydumb

goodfellas is probably my favorite movie of all time

it could as easily be Dario Argento as Brian De Palma. Which is when I like De Palma, because I love Dario Argento.

― J0hn D.

i've often thought that this is as true of argento as it is of depalma. at their best, they might as well be the same guy

still, i mostly hate scarface. the people in it are too ill-behaved and sweaty for my taste

still hanging around on the internet dating thread though huh

None of you actually lives in Miami, so kiss my Cuban ass: Goodfellas wins.

FUCK YOU PAY ME.

WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR FUCKING SHINEBOX

this town is like one big pussy, jus waitin to get FOCKED

voted for goodfellas tho

goodfellas so obviously

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proper result

thank god

rong

I completely support the results of this.

goodfellas most def. i did my dissertation on scarface and i never want to see it again.

well done everyone

i would've voted Scarface but I have my own edit of the film. I basically stop directly after the montage with Montana realty and the salon being opened etc. just after Tony says "fly little pelican!" and basically it's the most triumphant and awesome movie ever if you do that.

scarfaced disco edit

im the biggest depalma stan but ilx 100% otm

next: goodfellas v godfathers ???

i'm afraid ilx might get that one wrong : /

Godfathers vs. Transporters

goodfellas vs wiseguys

the ULTIMATE scorsese-depalma showdown

if you live in a world where scarface is the better, you a.) dumb, and b.) youngtrendydumb c.) a negro or other black

― PappaWheelie V, Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:28 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What kind of guys gamble with the boss's money, swipe a killer's Cadillac, and party on the mob's credit card?

Goodfellas v Godfathers