NRO's Top 25 Conservative Movies

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Poll Results

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6. Groundhog Day 9
22. Brazil 6
10. Ghostbusters 6
15. Red Dawn 5
3. Metropolitan 4
1. The Lives of Others 2
11. Lord of the Rings trilogy 2
16. Master and Commander 1
14. A Simple Plan 1
18. The Edge 1
7. The Pursuit of Happyness [sic] 1
2. The Incredibles 1
20. Gattaca 0
19. We Were Soldiers 0
23. United 93 0
24. Team America: World Police 0
21. Heartbreak Ridge 0
17. The Chroniciles of Narnia: The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe 0
13. Braveheart 0
12. The Dark Knight 0
9. Blast From The Past 0
8. Juno 0
5. 300 0
4. Forrest Gump 0
25. Gran Torino 0


groovy groovy jazzy funky pounce bounce dance (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

I'd rather vote on the defenses of said films than the films themselves.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)

300 is a conservative defence of bromance, presumably.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

K-lo's film commentary is not to be missed.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

brazil?!

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Air Force One, Amazing Grace, An American Carol, Barcelona, Bella, Cinderella Man, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, Hamburger Hill, The Hanoi Hilton, The Hunt for Red October, The Island, Knocked Up, The Last Days of Disco, The Lost City, Miracle, The Patriot, Rocky Balboa, Serenity, Stand and Deliver, Tears of the Sun, Thank You for Smoking, Three Kings, Tin Men, The Truman Show, Witness

America in "making movies with Consservative values" shocka...

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

xpost yeah, Brazil apparently a vision of totalitarian govt. Which is obviously not a right wing one ohno...

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

METROPOLITAN?!

(that film is totally awesome btw, and I'm probably gonna vote for it just 'coz)

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

Are we votin' for our favourite, rescuing a movie, or voting the most 'conservative' here?

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

He brings us to see what is admirable and necessary in the customs and conventions of America’s upper class.

I'd say he brings us to see what is admirable and necessary about young friendship, and what is confusing, self-contradictory, mutable, funny, shameful and transient about privileged youth

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Groundhog Day (1993): This putatively wacky comedy about Bill Murray as an obnoxious weatherman cursed to relive the same day over and over in a small Pennsylvania town, perhaps for eternity, is in fact a sophisticated commentary on the good and true. Theologians and philosophers across the ideological spectrum have embraced it. For the conservative, the moral of the tale is that redemption and meaning are derived not from indulging your “authentic” instincts and drives, but from striving to live up to external and timeless ideals. Murray begins the film as an irony-soaked narcissist, contemptuous of beauty, art, and commitment. His journey of self-discovery leads him to understand that the fads of modernity are no substitute for the permanent things.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

"putatively wacky"

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

I mean there's quite a few good movies in here, but the grouping, and the definition, is grasping at best in at least half of cases here

Mequophidiophobia: fear of the beer snake (country matters), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

lol i knew this was coming

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

Some of these are obvious, but it seems like the editor just thought "here's a bunch of movies I like" and left it at that.

Millsner, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

ust as significantly, Greengrass provides a clear depiction of our enemies. United 93 opens as four Muslim terrorists pray in a hotel room.

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

Fuck those praying jerks.

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

The Pursuit of Happyness (2006]... They’re black, but there’s no racial undertone or subtext.

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahahahaha waht

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

The Incredibles (2004)... In one scene, son Dash, a super-speedy runner, wants to try out for track. Mom claims it wouldn’t be fair. “Dad says our powers make us special!” Dash objects. “Everyone is special,” Mom demurs, to which Dash mutters, “Which means nobody is.”

BITING

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:56 (seventeen years ago)

Murray begins the film as an irony-soaked narcissist, contemptuous of beauty, art, and commitment.

so he begins the film as a Republican congressperson?

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

Ghostbusters (1984) ... you have to like a movie in which the bad guy is a regulation-happy buffoon from the EPA, and the solution to a public menace comes from the private sector.

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

yup, i've said all along that ghostbusters is on some conservative/ronnie reagan shit. it's still a good film.

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

Juno bcz she doesn't get a gogortion, right?

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

surprised that there aren't any dirty harry films here, or death wish ... or are those films too nixon-era/archie bunker conservative?!?

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

"The film has its faults, including a number of crass moments and a pregnant high-school student with an unrealistic level of self-confidence."

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

I mean:

Team America: World Police

I suppose somebody's got to like it...

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:07 (seventeen years ago)

.. shows a respect for authority and the chain of command structure when the main character gives his commanding officer a bjob...

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

.. to be able to resume his position and activities...

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

missed opportunities:

Smokey and the Bandit. Beer, trucks, car racing, fast cars. If we ignore the running from the law part, we have fast muscle car leading the way for a big rig full of beer going back to a NASCAR race. Not to mention Fred. How many liberals would own a Basset Hound? If Michael Moore made the movie, the dog would be a poodle.

William Teach on January 15, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Euler, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

... that's more Clinton Democrat surely? (xp)

Vitbe Is Good Bread (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Bahaha "The Exorcism of Emily Rose" as an also-ran...I'm surprised that didn't make the list, the film in which it is basically determined in a U.S. court of law that god is real and loves us all.

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:11 (seventeen years ago)

How many liberals would own a Basset Hound?

???!?!???A??!$@!$???

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

Also I know this shouldn't be weird to me, but it is: how they seem to use 'conservative' and 'Christian' interchangeably.

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

I goggled at Brazil at first, but I suppose they're assuming its dystopian in a 1984 sense, and hence anti-communist. Which I don't think it is at all, but then the first time I read 1984 (before I knew anything about it aside from it was supposed to be good) I totally read it as a tract against the current society, which would obviously make it anti-capitalist. So I think I just read EVERYTHING as woo-woo let's be Marxists, and therefore can't really comment.

Anyway, it's between that and Ghostbusters for me, I think.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

voting on the defenses given rather than the movies themselves

thus, it's 'pursuit of happyness' vs. 'united 93' b/c of those two lines i quoted upthread

mark cl, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

surprised that there aren't any dirty harry films here, or death wish ...

exactly what i was expecting to see when i clicked on thread.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

I was under the impression that the bad guy in "Ghostbusters" was a dimension-hopping evil demon named Gozer. Silly me.

Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

Will not click on that link. What is "The Edge"?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

How many liberals would own a Basset Hound?

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/g/graham_alex/graham_alex_fred_1984.jpg

Vitbe Is Good Bread (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

The Edge is that Mamet movie where Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins fly to Alaska and fight a bear.

Millsner, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

Bahahaha what is the story behind that? xp

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still lolling @ "If we ignore the running from the law part" from the Smokey and the Bandit blurb. That's the whole movie's point!

Euler, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

(that's a fakey one, dude!)

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)

"The Edge is that Mamet movie where Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins fly to Alaska and fight a bear."

The bear = libearals

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

Don't you remember, Alex? There's a bear in the woods.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

Some have interpreted the film as a Cold War allegory because it features a menacing bear.

Millsner, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

Heartbreak Ridge: Clint Eastwood’s foul-mouthed Marine sergeant Tom Highway makes quick work of kicking Communist Cubans out of Grenada. And, boy, does “Gunny” hate Commies. Not only does he kill quite a few, he also refuses a bribe of a Cuban cigar, saying: “Get that contraband stogie out of my face before I shove it so far up your a** you’ll have to set fire to your nose to light it.” A welcome glorification of Reagan’s decision to liberate Grenada in 1983, the film also notes how after a tie in Korea and a loss in Vietnam, America can finally celebrate a military victory. Eastwood, the old war horse, walks off into retirement pleased that he’s not “0–1–1 anymore.” Semper Fi. Oo-rah!

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

Mario Van Peebles is hilarious in that film.

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:34 (seventeen years ago)

Some have interpreted the film as a Cold War allegory because it features a menacing bear.

that's as funny as their rationale that falco's "der kommissar" was anti-communist/conservative b/c, like, "commissar" is a russian word and shit.

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I figured you would go there.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

so this list is less bothersome to dan than the idea of ferret rimjobs?!?

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/original/jeff-gannon1.jpg

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

article by KLo.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:14 (seventeen years ago)

Also important, VERY important, to remember about Brazil: Gilliam is British. The bureaucracy he has known doesn't really apply stateside.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

Also important, VERY important, to remember about Brazil: Gilliam is British. The bureaucracy he has known doesn't really apply stateside.

unless yer talking about the DMV office

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but largely I have never felt like I was going to be wrapped in paperwork and disappear.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

Gilliam is British.

Gilliam is Minnesotan.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

lol I was gonna say! Born and raised in Saint Paul!

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

i hear that those minnesota bureaucrats are some nasty mofos.

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

Damnit, I knew that, too!

Well anyway, the movie has a pretty British POV.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

brb, I think the egg on my face may require a full shower.

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:20 (seventeen years ago)

bukake kenan

Ein kluges Äpfelchen (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, must you?

Bad Banana On Broadway (kenan), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

ugh okay I didn't need to see the Jeff Gannon pic of him with the rifle in front of the American flag

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Are you sure that's worse than the image of Kenan bukkake?

i'm shy (Abbott), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

Depends on the quality of the rifle.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

mad at all of you

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

bukakke bullets

Father Time has always been our most reliable film critic (latebloomer), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

oh noez a shirtless man!!!

grow up now plz

obi don quixote (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

ws gannon btw

obi don quixote (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

Master and Commander

what did I tell you people

nabisco, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

Gannon does the gokkun glug glug glug

kingfish, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

guess what college terry gilliam went to

max, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

British college?

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 February 2009 11:46 (seventeen years ago)

No Wall Street, No Credibility.

The Loneliness of the Middle Order Batsman (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

Groundhog Day: "Yet why should poor Rita be forced to relive this miserable day just to give Phil a chance to evolve from crafty Casanova into selfless swain?...This sexual shell game, these moral tergiversations, attest to the film's queasily exploitative values. In the end, all is contrivance..." John Simon, April 12, 1993.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWEyNmRkOWMzMGM4NTgzOGFhNjA1OWI4NmM0MGQxYzU=

United 93: "[R]eal art, especially art that takes on events whose wounds are still unhealed, needs to do more than stir up strong emotions in its audience. United 93 buys its power cheaply." Russ Douthat, May 22, 2006.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTcwNGNmZjk1YTYwYzRhMzVkZWMyYmYxZTA3YTlhY2U=

Team America: World Police: "The movie is not a clear success, being too crude, for one thing. (By 'crude,' I don’t mean dirty, which it is, to a revolting extent. I mean not clever enough.) In truth, the movie, slam-bang and brief as it is, is a little dull." Jay Nordlinger, November 8, 2004.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTEyY2RjMWVhZDk5MTM4Yjc5YWRjZGYzNDZhYTUzMjk=

Forrest Gump: "[T]he movie captures only the random side of [life] fully, and two and a quarter hours of randomness can wear pretty thin. If a millionaire decides to run around for a couple of years, wouldn't he at least have a backpack? I can respect an idiot savant, but not one who doesn't brush his teeth for three years. Even fantasy has to play by some sort of rules, however fanciful...[Technology] can be a lot of things, but is rarely heartwarming. Yet that is what the movie strives to be. It emerges, rather like its hero, idiot-savantish." John Simon, August 29, 1994.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDJlY2FmNjEwYzA0M2M1ZTA4NjE0ODBhNThiMGZiYmE=

harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

It's all very urban-suburban avant-garde.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

oh noez a shirtless man!!!

yeah clearly my problem was with the fact that he's shirtless, not that he's humping a gun in front of the American flag

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

Where's that pic, I only see a picture of a shirtless man, no gun or flag?

Tuomas, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

GIS Jeff Gannon, you will find it

I was googling him for lulz and found jingoistic grossness, sorry for not reposting it here

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlLA/original/jeff-gannon1.jpg

Tuomas, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

(x-post)

Ah, okay, I think Elmo thought people were shocked by the pic above.

Tuomas, Friday, 20 February 2009 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

ugh okay I didn't need to see the Jeff Gannon pic of him with the rifle in front of the American flag

how the hell could this possibly be taken as a description of the picture on this thread

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

I'd hit it

King Boiled Potato (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

you googled a porn star/male prostitute and were surprised when you found a picture of naked?

harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

no, dumbass

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

what about the word "jingoistic" is unclear here and how does that imply surprise

Lots of praying with no breakfast! (HI DERE), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

your problem is the rifle and the flag?

harry s tfuman (and what), Friday, 20 February 2009 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/feb/20/1

meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 23 February 2009 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

The Lives of Others? Only Conservative in the sense that it is anti-East German communist oppression. The techniques it criticizes are also highlighted in Taxi to the Dark Side ...i.e. used by GWB and defended by conservatives.

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

I've gotta give the National Review people props for favoring Lives of Others and Brazil over more strictly conservative movies like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. I wonder if William F. Buckley liked American Psycho. Is American Psycho a conservative movie?

what happened? I'm confused. (sarahel), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

Apparently, in the source material for Master and Commander, the bad guys were Americans, not Frenchies! Dunno if that fact woulda affected their reading any...

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 5 March 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't realise that us Brits are lucky enough to have our own right wing culture vultures. And, hey, they're looking for "films that go against the grain" - which seems even more meaningless than the NRO list.
http://www.newcultureforum.org.uk/home/?q=node/479

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:44 (sixteen years ago)

Gregory's Girl.

A perfect, delightful, enriching balance of humour, yearning, disappointment and friendship.

Say what you like Professor Words (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 10 March 2009 12:46 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

I saw the trailer for this Mag Gyllenhaal-Viola Davis charter-school propaganda flick and wanted to puke.

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/26/wont_back_down_why_do_teachers_unions_hate_america/

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

everyone who appears in that movie should should have their sag cards taken away

max, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder if both leads were counting on SAG Award nominations.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)


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