What is that called when Helen Love or Rik from The Young Ones pronounces R as W in front of an AH or OH?

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"see that girl lying under the bar/ she used to be a wrawk n' roll star"

Is that specific to a certain city in UK? What is it called exactly?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

I think it's called a speech impediment.

Alba, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

Woss Disowder

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

Well, Rik Mayall grew up in Worcestershire, whereas the voice of Elmer Fudd grew up in Brooklyn . . .

nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:45 (seventeen years ago)

It's a standard indie-schmindey student trope. For reference, see also Dan Treacy, Stephen Pastel, Nikki Sudden, Student Grant's posse. Possibly Edwyn Collins too.

everything, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

"Be vewwy wewwy quiet" is distinct from the R-to-W transformation in "See her running awround/ she's the girl about town that you heard of"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Rhotacism. I don't think it's region-specific in the UK.

woofwoofwoof, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

"wabbit" very nearly fulfills the conditions in the thread title, but in all honesty I was, like, joking

I know little about English speech-modes but I always assumed this sort of thing was maybe intentionally childlike? Maybe that's just because of Dan Treacy, though -- kind of a mock-vulnerable mock-schoolboy habit ...

nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:02 (seventeen years ago)

haha maybe a posh English Fudd would say it more like "wobbit"

nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:03 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but people who do it all the time aren't doing it to be childlike. They just can't say their Rs.

Alba, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

well sure

nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

I do kind of enjoy the image of Dan Treacy trying speech therapy somewhere between "All My Dreams Are Dead" and "The Picture of Dowian Gway"

nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

in the case of Helen Love, it's called "being Welsh"

I Was A Taoist Intellectual (sic), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 02:32 (seventeen years ago)

(or probably some specific regional thing, but I've known other Welsh people to have a similiar very slight version of this)

I Was A Taoist Intellectual (sic), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 02:33 (seventeen years ago)


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