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Has anyone been watching the programme on Sunday nights on BBC about football hooligans?

It's all pretty depressing stuff, but their point seems to be that it's as bad now as it ever was and that the league turn a blind eye a little, taking the attitude that if the public don't know there's no problem.

What do you all think? Last night was particularly grim, footage from Ninian Park.

― Ronan, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm kind of glad I'm missing it after witnessing bloody awful scenes around Saltergate (and other lower league grounds)in the mid eighties. It turns out the beery arseholes staying on the island are on their way to Japan, for a bit of "fun". bastards.

― chris, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know everyone else must have thought this, but there is a nietzchian/darwinian approach which might be quite funny - corralling two sets of rival holies into an enclosed space and just leaving them to it. Filming it and showing it on Channel 4, of course.

I've been enjoying the programme. Do you think they may have a go at actually arresting some of the perpetrators now, seeing as they have dozens of hours of footage?

― Mark C, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm wondering if any of Britain's hooligans are stupid enough to start any trouble in South Korea. I imagine the authorities there will want to show a reasonable public face, but I wouldn't want to be behind closed doors in a police station if I were a hooligan who had show any resistance or violence to the Korean police.

I don't think there is as much trouble now as there was, and I've been going to games since the late '60s. Actually, I think it was always exaggerated, but I'm sure there is less violence now.

― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I sort of hope they do start so that the Japanese authorities can really show them who the boss is. The footage of the training is awesome - police officers absailing down from helicopter and all sorts. Even then they'll say "Oh, the police reaction was so over the top, we were just hanging around and they rushed us." Yeah? Fuck off you twats.

― Jonnie, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A Battle Royale collar regime should apply to all fans.

― N., Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Martin, it does still happen, you just don't hear about it and there's less people involved. They just meet somewhere quiet and get together and fight, quite odd really, kind of like fight club I suppose. Football message boards are used widely for instance.

― chris, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris, I am aware that it still goes on - I just said there was less of it, and your comment that there are fewer people involved is hardly contradicting that. Frankly, I think nearly everyone is pretty satisfied with the rival groups meeting somewhere private and fighting it out. It's when others are dragged in willy nilly that the major upset arises.

― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Martin, sorry yeah, I should have read more clearly, plus i was still in the afterglow of first beer in a week after antibiotics! but yeah, I say let the bastards batter each other in car parks and truck stops up and down the country. so long as no one else gets hurt in the process

― chris, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

twelve years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp7dc1MvcHw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRk5QWuXf5M

Not sure about linking to one of these, and a few vids doesnt prove anything either way, but quite a lot of these from the immediate 'post-hooligan' period when it had declined hugely, but how much did it decline?

― anvil, Friday, 2 January 2015 21:28 (eleven years ago)

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