Spring Is Busting ILX Gay All Over ... (Bonus feature: vote for the best gay population mecca in the U.S.)

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Milk won its obligatory two Oscars. It's March. It's time to put the winter thread to bed.

Poll Results

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01. San Francisco (15.4%; 94,234) 16
03. Atlanta (12.8%; 39,805) 8
04. Minneapolis (12.5%; 34,295) 8
08. Denver (8.2%; 33,698) 3
07. Portland (8.8%; 35,413) 3
10. Orlando (7.7%; 12,508) 3
02. Seattle (12.9%; 57,993) 2
05. Boston (12.3%; 50,540) 1
06. Sacramento (9.8%; 32,108) 1
09. Washington (8.1%; 32,599) 0


Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

Population figures from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village#Top_US_cities

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

"obligatory" list

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

also, NYC is getting our FIRST big snowstorm of the winter tonight, you Midwestern sap!

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

assuming portland is the one in OR i will vote for that

obi don quixote (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

it does have the friendliest Eagle (Sea close)

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

I love the precision with which they calculate the number of out gays in these cities.

Benjamin Motherfucking Franklin (Oilyrags), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

p.s. i have been struck down mercilessly by some type of influenza. your prayers are appreciated.

obi don quixote (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm honestly not sure where these numbers really come from, but I'm OK with not counting closeted gays in this context. (Though a list of the top closeted metro areas would also be interesting.)

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

We just had that snowstorm on Thursday, Morbs. It was apparently the biggest of the season so far, but it didn't feel that bad to me.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:21 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, well...! most of yr others dissipate.

to God's ears, elmo.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

i am posting between pancakes

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:24 (sixteen years ago)

So wait. This POLL is the Spring gay thread???

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

only if we have a quiet spring!

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

I just want to belong. ILX = polls

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

im looking fwd to missing all the out gays in Austin in 4 weeks. (or at least two or three of em)

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

Plus I am a Minneapolis chauvinist.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

er MEETING

xp

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

All my gay friends moved out of town. Mostly to nyc.

Benjamin Motherfucking Franklin (Oilyrags), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

Which town? I'll update wikipedia's figures.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)

E, to be a convincing chauvinist, youd have to have a persuasive record of praising your local gays. :)

I've been to 7 of those 10 meccas, and as much as I likle to proclaim Sf's decline I've had my gayest times there.

(aside from a Boston thr**way a very long time ago)

I'm off this afternoon to 3 hours of Guy Debord films! THAT should be cruisy.

I'm listening to my pal Trouble's Welsh Week show:

http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/30496

wow, Tom Jones' "The Young New Mexican Puppeteer"!
(NUTS)

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'm friends with at least a few dozen of those 34,295.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

you mensch!

in case you missed on the other thread, best gay Nixon tape ever:

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2009/02/the-nixon-tapes-richard-nixon-hates-all-in-the-family-1971.html

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

"The last six Roman emperors were fags."

That's entertainment.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

I clicked thinking this poll was going to be Provincetown vs. Key West vs. Guerneville.

Eazy, Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

The gay tourist trap poll will have to wait until June.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

I think I helped add one more number to the gays in our city last night (first time experience with a formerly str8 friend)

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

No such thing as formerly str8 imo, just sayin.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

guess he's bi now, but he dates ladies

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:29 (sixteen years ago)

Everyone's happy.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, I'm operating on about two months ahead of schedule. -2 this morning threw me into a deep denial.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)

nyc's about to get a foot of snow!!!!

Surmounter, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

i'm ordering meatball and brocooli pizza today in celebration.

omg i love march

Surmounter, Sunday, 1 March 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

March radness.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

i mean, i also find san francisco not as good as it could be, but i don't really think you could get me to live in any of the other places above. especially boston, which is possibly the shittiest place on that list.

the table is the table, Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:06 (sixteen years ago)

rooting for snow? man i was pissed off reading the weather forecasts these past few days. i hate this time of year

i had a rare solo excursion to a gay bar last night. talked with a nice drunk fellow about grindcore and italian horror movies, then he disappeared into the ether...?

th' UGH life (donna rouge), Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)

solo excursion! which bar?

joe ya gotta embrace the beauty of this weather, before your face is melting off onto the scalding pavements of brooklyn and all you can do when you get home is sit in front of the fan

Surmounter, Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:11 (sixteen years ago)

assuming washington is referring to DC, i have been to four cities on this poll (five, if layovers count)

th' UGH life (donna rouge), Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

really i'm just kind of sick of my winter jacket

th' UGH life (donna rouge), Sunday, 1 March 2009 19:12 (sixteen years ago)

I like winter just fine, but Chicago has had a very hard winter and I'm growing tired of it.

I was surprised to find that Chicago's % wasn't so high - around 5% gay. That seems wrong. But then, I spend the majority of my time on the north side, near the lake, so my view is skewed.

differently valid (Jesse), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

i mean, i also find san francisco not as good as it could be, but i don't really think you could get me to live in any of the other places above. especially boston, which is possibly the shittiest place on that list.

Yeah, a populace of stallions couldn't get me to drag me to live in Orlando or Portland.

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

That list isn't, by the way, in reference to metro areas but just cities proper. If I'd have done the former:

1 San Francisco 8.2% 256,313 4
2 Seattle 6.5% 154,835 11
3 Boston 6.2% 201,344 5
4 Portland 6.1% 94,027 21
5 Tampa 5.9% 119,044 16
6 Austin 5.9% 61,732 29
7 Denver 5.8% 99,027 19
8 Minneapolis 5.7% 130,472 15
9 Orlando 5.7% 81,272 24
10 Hartford 5.6% 49,000 33

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:09 (sixteen years ago)

So Georgetown and Round Rock are like the Castro of Austin?

too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)

i am thinking about the utter shit that is hartford, ct, and sort of making a weird face.

the table is the table, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

haha guy-who-disappeared last night was from hartford. his view of it seemed to jive with yrs, table

th' UGH life (donna rouge), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

perhaps it is because my most nosy irritating relatives live there (though my cousin is a nice girl), and perhaps it is the fact that it seems to be the capital of 'casual dining experiences,' but really, the place is a shithole.

the table is the table, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

So what you're saying, table, is there is really only one proper place to live in the U.S. if you're gay?

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

oh hell no.

i like small towns more than cities. if i could find a man who'd move to Cheyenne, Wyoming, with me, i'd be blissfully happy.

the table is the table, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

i am beginning to harbor a sort of, "what the fuck why would you live anywhere but california" mentality though. yesterday i went hiking along the coast, then walked half the span of the golden gate, then got high in the park, then ate pho with my dyke-double and our other gay male friend, then drank forties and talked with 16-year-old punk dyke chicks in the park, then went to a queer bar, then....

i mean, only the hardy boys can do that shit with snow falling around. there were people sunbathing nude on the beaches.

in other words, i am very much a warm-weather person. fucking hate cold.

the table is the table, Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

have you been to cheyenne?

differently valid (Jesse), Sunday, 1 March 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

Jude Law is pretty interesting all over.

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

no argument. Tho I haven't seen him since I Heart Huckabees, since like all H'wood A-listers he tends to make shit I will never see.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago)

I can't remember the last time I found him hot. I ::heart:: Huckabees maybe?

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago)

the Dickie murder in Ripley is SO badly directed. Minghella, rest uneasily.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

never seen TTMR, read one of the other ripley books (the one about the art forgery, can't remember the exact title) and loved it tho

the grouse of the solitary faggot (donna rouge), Monday, 8 June 2009 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

the best Ripley film adap of the 3 I've seen is the one w/ Malkovich, Ripley's Game.

hey, I now have an original Rosa von Praunheim artwork, like everyone who attended last night's anthology clip fest! The words on mine are "I am a tomatoe. love, RvP"

http://www.rosavonpraunheim.de/bio/bio_engl.html

http://www.anthologyfilmarchives.org/schedule/search/search-result/?program=Goethe%20Institut%20New%20York%20presents:%20The%20Films%20of%20Rosa%20von%20Praunheim

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 01:57 (fifteen years ago)

just re=read the talented mr ripley 2 weeks ago, definitely need to pick up the other ripley books now

roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:05 (fifteen years ago)

Hahahah Alfred mentioned Hilary Swank! oh my god. No. There's a movie she's in about am FTM transsexual and I really don't like it at all. It's called Boys Don't Cry. But I don't like it. It doesn't feel like...me.

Thanks Morbs for keeping this thread going. Here's a freaking Liza Minelli clip, which I might get taken away by the style police for posting, but you know what? Who gives a shit, she's a human being too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOamKxW844

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

well, she was certainly more like a human physiologically in '72.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago)

I love you Morbs, but if I could get KJB's opinion on all this, it'd be fantastic.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

the Dickie murder in Ripley is SO badly directed. Minghella, rest uneasily.

That's only cuz you've forgotten the Oscar-bait conclusion Minghella wrote just for Damon (the Fake Somebody monologue).

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

Can I just have one more try?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emuVLVylBiA

This Streisand song...in my teenagerhood. Alfred should remember this. It's about the year he would remember stuff like this...late 80's. It's a cover, I know. I know it is. It's a cover from the West Side Story musical. Don't lecture me on it, I adore Natalie Wood but that's a discussion for later.

Alfred, you had said recently on the 1980 singles thread that "Woman In Love" was a fave of yours. Streisand was on that right? I'm going to play it in just a moment, but I'm trying to get all this straight in my mind, thanks.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:38 (fifteen years ago)

Natalie Wood never sang it (dubbed)

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago)

Hahaha. Sweet things gayz of all stripes and colours I love you so much.

Will you let a bimble post one more link and leave you now? I adore you, here's a rose, darling. I adore you. Be nice to a bimble. He loves you. He's an open hearted, generous, compassionate individual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-KPGh3wysw

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

Alfred, you had said recently on the 1980 singles thread that "Woman In Love" was a fave of yours. Streisand was on that right?

Yup. Gibb keeps her in check.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2009 02:51 (fifteen years ago)

Well alright! I can dig it, man. When I was a child I used to have stupid Andy Gibb "Shadow Dancing" single on my cassette tape and put my cassette player into the drawer of my um...what do you call that, when it's like a set of drawers? What is the furniture term for that? I can't think of it right now, but I'm feeling you, man. I'm totally feeling it.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

Dresser! That's it. I put a cassette player in an empty drawer of my dresser when I played Andy Gibb's "Shadow Dancing". Oh the shame...

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

Alfred I'll be your friend forever if you just don't try to defend George Michael. Please.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:11 (fifteen years ago)

GM kicks post-1960s Streisand all over the place.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 June 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago)

I feel so sad that I can't sing in quite Streisand's range anymore. I used to be able to do that. No more.

What is GM, Morbs?

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago)

Oh I get it now, sorry.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago)

A long time ago, I was a young child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXlaOsNBDkk

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago)

I was the only one in my grade school class who could sing the "oooh oh oh" parts of that song. Some kid said to me "what are you doing???" I was the only goddamn kid in the whole place who could sing those parts. Thanking U.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago)

Despite his claims of twin brotherhood, Eric H is about 100x sexier than Neil Patrick Harris.

Blasphemy! You take that back!

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 03:41 (fifteen years ago)

And as far as the Tonys go, I didn't watch a second of 'em. But they did give me a newfound respect for the Oscars in that at least the Oscars didn't award three Haley Joel Osments in one fell swoop.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago)

Alfred, sweetheart, don't worry about it.

I'm so glad that Eric H. posted, but I still love you. And I'm filled with nothing but love. There isn't anything in my heart but love. Please don't get angry at me.
I know I'm going to make a fool out of myself. But why is it that when my heart is filled with love then I have to be ashamed? I love all you gayz so much. I can't stop the love in my heart. It won't stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_rEQ-nsQQM

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago)

If it says "embedding disabled by request" then just double click it. Thanks.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:24 (fifteen years ago)

no point in my watching the tonys as i never see a damn thing either on or off broadway in the first place. but good for liza nonetheless.

the grouse of the solitary faggot (donna rouge), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:30 (fifteen years ago)

Alex, that kissing on the streetcorner story is really adorable! i hope it works out

i've seen the way you've treated other fuxxors you've been with (Tape Store), Monday, 8 June 2009 04:31 (fifteen years ago)

we've been missing our friend ti4rnan here as of recent...but i wanted to share with him that THE FACE, talked about upthread in relation to young Ashton Kutcher underwear photographs, is most likely being revived. i don't understand how or why, but it is.

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 06:22 (fifteen years ago)

this photo session: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/355105888_7ea13a5676.jpg?v=0

i admit that when i was 14 or so, i wanked to that photo once or twice.

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 06:23 (fifteen years ago)

I left messages for my boss. I can't find my glasses. I feel like a failure. I was crying.

I have to go back to the glasses store tomorrow, to get the glasses I lost when I got arrested. I can't find the other ones. I feel like a failure.

Thanks gayz for listening to my drunk ass.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Monday, 8 June 2009 06:48 (fifteen years ago)

AP writers in on the gangpile? I don't know what to make of this detail in the lead.

Court rejects challenge to 'don't ask, don't tell'
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court on Monday turned down a challenge to the Pentagon policy forbidding gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military, granting a request by the Obama administration.
The court said it will not hear an appeal from former Army Capt. James Pietrangelo II, who was dismissed under the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
The federal appeals court in Boston earlier threw out a lawsuit filed by Pietrangelo and 11 other veterans. He was the only member of that group who asked the high court to rule that the Clinton-era policy is unconstitutional.
In court papers, the administration said the appeals court ruled correctly in this case when it found that "don't ask, don't tell" is "rationally related to the government's legitimate interest in military discipline and cohesion."
During last year's campaign, President Barack Obama indicated he supported the eventual repeal of the policy, but he has made no specific move to do so since taking office in January. Meanwhile, the White House has said it won't stop gays and lesbians from being dismissed from the military.
Last year, the federal appeals court in San Francisco allowed a decorated flight nurse to continue her lawsuit over her dismissal. The court stopped short of declaring the policy unconstitutional, but said that the Air Force must prove that ousting former Maj. Margaret Witt furthered the military's goals of troop readiness and unit cohesion.
The decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was the first that evaluated "don't ask, don't tell" through the lens of a 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down a Texas ban on sodomy as an unconstitutional intrusion on privacy.
The administration did not appeal that ruling to the Supreme Court and Witt's lawsuit is ongoing.
The appeals court in Pietrangelo's case also took the high court decision into account, but concluded that it should defer to Congress' determination that the policy fosters cohesion in military units.
The case is Pietrangelo v. Gates, 08-824.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

wait what is this talk of "THE FACE"?

surm, Monday, 8 June 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

1. ramz, THE FACE was a style rag/mag that had some amount of cachet in the 90s and early 2000s, before it became one of the first of its kind to go under. now they're bringing it back, inexplicably.

2. eric, that detail is pretty questionable-- the president has no real say over which cases the SC takes on or not. however, it gives insight into the fact that BARACK OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. get it into yr skulls.

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

the president can file an amicus curiae brief, but no, he can't "make a request"

roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Monday, 8 June 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

2. eric, that detail is pretty questionable-- the president has no real say over which cases the SC takes on or not. however, it gives insight into the fact that BARACK OBAMA DOESN'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. get it into yr skulls.

That was sort of what I was getting at. Is AP writer perhaps in the burgeoning Obama-hate-gay-mafia?

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

Quite honestly, I don't give a shit whether Obama doesn't like gay people or not. There's so much more to hate about this guy: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/01/photos/index.html .

I MEAN REALLY? REALLY?

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Where have you been all Morbs' life?

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh, Morbz and i are on the same page, i think, and we've known this for a bit...

the table is the table, Monday, 8 June 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago)

In any case, states are doing it for themselves (Aretha feat. Eurythmics).

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Monday, 8 June 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

people really misunderstand what presidents are about. they are not our buddies.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 03:33 (fifteen years ago)

by "our" I mean anybody who doesn't donate $100,000 to the warchest

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 June 2009 03:34 (fifteen years ago)

God, that was a really frightening link. The Gitmo stuff on that site was terrible as well. Not too long ago I wrote my congressional representatives saying I wanted to see the people in the Bush administration that drafted the legal justfication for torture held responsible. One of them sent me a canned response thanking me for writing to him about some other issue that had nothing to do with torture. *rolls eyes*

Imagine being an elevator (Bimble), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 03:52 (fifteen years ago)

ashamed to admit that i just yesterday figured out what this thread's title is a reference to

also opening the un-displayed messages crashed my browser just now and it is practically summer anyhow - new thread time?

the grouse of the solitary faggot (donna rouge), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not ashamed to admit that i still don't get the reference

it reminds me of that nona hendryx song is all, though i know that's not it

roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I-790dGx-o

the grouse of the solitary faggot (donna rouge), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

p.s. i agree we are due for a new thread -- we're past memorial day after all

roman knockwell (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 9 June 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

Haha, never actually saw that clip before. There's ... a lot of gay shit going on in there.

nu hollywood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago)

because it's June
June
June
June

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago)


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