All-time Premier League Best XI of players who haven't won the league

Let's excuse Liverpool players, because they're hateful. Anyone else is fair game though. Lets' go 4-4-2 as a tactic.

given
pearce
mcgrath
?
?
tugay (love that dude)
ginola
le tissier
gascoigne
ferdinand
owen

can't think of another CB or RB, tbh. will no doubt be back to change

Zola needs to be in there.

Excluding Liverpool players kind of undermines the whole premise of the thread.

Nah it doens't, Matt - the whole premise of the thread is for me to be able to improve my Pro Evo team of retired Prem players who didn't play for either Man Utd, Arsenal, or Liverpool (cos I have a team of retired players from each of those teams already)! Cheeky, I know, but I thought there might be some decent football chat too.

ok swap zola for owen both for non liverpool reasons, and also on merit.

RB- can't be stephen carr, can it? am struggling to go back much further with anyone standing out, and warren barton was crap.

CB, i reckon matt elliott was the type of non nonsense thug this team needs to balance it out.

not trying to be lol here, but if you try to google this in any reasonable manner all you get is liverpool players.

Worth hanging on for the end when Ginola looks ready to kick Rodney Marsh's head in.

Friedel, Pearce, Hyppia, King, Finnan, Hamman, Ginola, McManaman, Le Tissier, Zola, Klinsmann.

Lol Spice Boys.

finnan friedel hamann mcmanaman all ineligible

Can we get Peter Beardsley in on a technicality? He left Liverpool (I think) before the inception of the Premier League.

lol @ #1 gis result for Peter Beardsley

Fabregas.

Desailly.

fabregas playing with whom exactly?

yeah, i'll nick desailly for mine, thanks

reina, finnan, hyypia, carragher, stig inge bjornbye, mcmanaman, antonio nunez, gerrard, sissoko, meijer, dundee (bench: ferri, traore, skrtel, agger, kvarme, james, dudek, westerveld, camara, welsh, wright, saunders, collymore, ruddock, dicks, piechnik, sinama-pongolle, le tallec, guthrie, hamann, kewell, smicer, diomede)

boom boom

where the fuck's bruno cheyrou

actually thought of an alternative side of unsung heroes from various clubs.

arphexad, pellegrino, warnock, henchoz, josemi, diouf, redknapp, ince, pennant, cissé, baros (bench: harkness, babb, mcateer, mellor, matteo, berger, murphy, biscan, mcallister, riise, garcia, walters, marsh, speedie, staunton)

x-post good call louis, cheyrou was definitely one of the greatest players to ever play in the premiership.

he's a one-time new Zidane, you know

"a real gem I assure you"-houllier

how quickly we forget palletta

So Salif Diao and David Ngog no credibility.

Also why do you make John Scales cry?

The team I actually use is:

GK Tim Flowers (I know he won but it was with Blackburn)
RB (troublesome position)
CB Colin Hendry
CB Gareth Southgate
LB Stuart Pearce
DM David Batty (see Flowers)
CM Gary Speed
LM Ginola
RM Okocha
SS Zola
CF Shearer (see Flowers)

Bench: Le Saux, Yeboah, Le Tissier, Sinclair, Ivan Campo etc etc

calling shenanigans on this whole thread

didn't gary speed win the league with leeds? the thread title says "the league"

Solano

Speed and Batty did win the league, but not the premier league. Sheffield Wednesday finished 3rd that season; are we really considering it as the same set-up / generation we have now?

but you said the league! and norwich finished third in the first season of the premier league so it hardly had a cosmic leap in the one year it became the premier league.

i motion for diouf to replace speed and salif diao in for batty

so basically "some players that haven't won the league but don't play for some teams that haven't won the league or some teams that have won the league plus some players I like that have won the league plus some players that have won the league but in years I choose to discount XI"

This is ridiculous, you can't put Blackburn 95 players in there. How is this different from all-time Premier League outside-the-big-four XI?

Keeping to the spirit of the original question, I'm putting Berbatov in there instead of McManaman, as part of a 4-3-3.

OK, OK, OK.

Retired Premier League players who played the key seasons of the career in the Premier League (i.e. not Gazza) who may have won the league but who did not play for Man Utd, Liverpool, or Arsenal (or AC Milan, or Inter, or Roma, or Barca, or Real Madrid, or Benfica, or Bayern Munich, or the Hungary 1954 World Cup team).

JUST GIVE ME A RIGHT BACK AND SOMEONE PACEY FOR THE WING.

Given
Sagna Southgate Desailly Pearce
Ginola Merson Fabregas Le Tissier
Gullit
Zola

(Subs: Martyn, Woodgate, Carr, Di Matteo, Okocha, Berbatov, Vialli.)

Didn't see what Nick just posted, will think about it in class for the next hour instead of learning.

(That team would be awesome though.)

That team would be awesome except it wouldn't win a challenge in midfield.

Desailly and Gullit are already in my Classic AC Milan team, for reference.

is desailly good enough to make a classic milan team tho? unless you are playing 5-3-2 i guess. ok, i really, really should go.

He's on the bench, innit.

Also, if Dom sees this thread: I need help with the Classic Inter team; who goes in midfield?

i feel betrayed at all the effort i put into this, tbh. the sands have shifted under my feet.

lee dixon at RB?

warren barton at RB you fules

nah he was rubbish , covered in first post i think

des lyttle then

Dixon's in Classic Arsenal. Barton was shite. I actually semi-cheat and use Mendieta or Danny Mills there. Gary Kelly was good for one season, maybe two. Rob Jones is the best right back I've ever seen play, but he's in the Liverpool team.

mills isn't really a cheat, he wasn't a bad right back.

i still rep for stephen carr, for two seasons there around the turn of the century he was fantastic.

                given
Bosingwa  Southgate Desailly   Pearce
  anderton     gullit     Ginola
              Juninho
          robinho   zola

bosingwa and robinho very hasty inclusions imo, but kudos for anderton. i'd have him in if i wasn't afraid of bias accusations.

We're all forgetting Stefano Eranio

couldn't fit gazza in the team

Juninho vs Kinkladze?

vs PAOLO

paolo the fascist wonderboy

anelka/wanchope to wreak havoc xpost

ah dicanio, not wanchope

anelka won the league u divot

also have a soft spot for benito carbone

oh yeah

liverpool player anyway, so double ineligibility

Haha, Carbone's in Classic Sheffield Wednesday!

also my goalie wd probably be nigel martyn

paul robinson

out

right back and right winger seems more scarce than the left sided equivalent

Ken's team would be rubbish on a windy November in Stoke, you could run right through them.

CHIMBOMBA

Stephen Carr was consistently the best right back in the Premiership until about a season or two before he left Spurs. I don't think I've really noticed him do anything of note at Newcastle.

We are being very harsh on CL-vintage Leeds aren't we?

kinda hard not to be- radebe, too injured, too old, too short a period at top of his game. the rest of them- turned out to be utter shite.

No Dan Petrescu?

Lots of CL-era Leeds can't be included (Rio won the league, Kewell at Liverpool, Viduka rubbish compared to the likes of Zola and Klinsmann etc.)

bowyer, harte, mills, robinson all completely rubbish at subsequent clubs.

leeds, interesting case. someone shoudl write a book.

Maybe worth having Tony Yeboah on the bench for the odd spectacular GOTS contender.

Also, thinking about Inter (in my lifetime at least, god knows about pre-90s) and... they really should have been the greatest team of the past 15 years shouldn't they? Ronaldo, Crespo, Vieri, Peruzzi, Recoba, ZCannavero - all fucking awesome players they had and didn't work out.

you could say the same about any of the big CL qualifying teams, unless i'm misreading you

My point was that they should have been one of the big European teams with the players they had and the money they spent but severely cocked it up until it turned out everyone else was cheating. Whereas 'the big CL qualifying teams' of the same time (Arsenal, Utd, Milan, Barca, Real, Bayern) all kept hold of their players and built amazing teams, and Inter just sold the likes of Ronaldo and Cannavero off too early and spent the time looking a bit shit.

(replace Bayern w/ Juventus)*

how are you making these classic pro evo teams btw?

He played for Liverpool but never really took off there: Collymore. I still maintain that Collymore was probably the best player the premier league saw in the 90s, in terms of sheer potential and ability. Don't understand what went wrong.

x-post; I'm still using the 2008 version on PS2, and I just edit them into the 16 blank teams using the classic national players and shop players where appropriate, and making the rest up myself.

Petrescu is a great shout.

Also Kinkladze.

I'm divided over Pet Rescue, cos he looks a tiny little bit like my brother.

I also have a massive soft spot for Albert Ferrer, best defensive right back I've seen at Chelsea and looked like a character from Asterix.

Classic Barcelona team, innit.

Also, if Dom sees this thread: I need help with the Classic Inter team; who goes in midfield?

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