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Victor Navasky and The Nation invite you to The Nation's fifth annual seminar cruise. Setting sail from New York City on October 22, the Holland America's MS Rotterdam will cruise through New England and Canada on a fall foliage tour.

You'll be joining a distinguished group of speakers who will all participate in a series of lectures, seminars and conversations over the course of the voyage. Confirmed speakers so far include Katha Pollitt, Howard Zinn, Calvin Trillin, George McGovern, Patricia J. Williams, Laura Flanders and Jules Feiffer.

They'll join Nation publisher Victor Navasky and editor Katrina vanden Heuvel in what has always been both an enlightening exchange of ideas and a no-hassle, relaxing vacation.

The Nation launched its seminar cruise series in 1998 to raise critical funds to help offset the magazine's chronic annual deficit. It's quickly grown into a popular excursion. We know cruises aren't for everyone... [etc]

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i know i let everyone down on the WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE thing...

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

do you need a date?

― maura, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How much does the cruise cost?

― jel --, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i need a date with howard zinn

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh, where in Canada? "Gotta love going up to north Hudson Bay at the end of October! Only a small amount of deadly ice!"

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it doesn't say where ned, but i can "engage in stimulating debates, discussions and dialogue on issues like the… conflict in the Middle East"

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In otherwards, LIKE RIGHT HERE. I suggest you visit California instead, oh yes.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes i might not fit in: "tell me, George McGovern, what is the most unacceptable thing evah to come out etc etc"

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I will pay you a million dollars (over many, many years) if you ask that at every speech. And if they like Hitler.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If I remember correctly he will need most of that million dollars just to get on the cruise: it's almost as if they do them specifically to make conservatives tired of saying "limousine liberals" and just give up.

I'd gladly pay to hang with Katha Pollitt, though, and I'm told Navasky is a good guy.

― nabisco%%, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

who he? me or hitler?

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"He" is you, Mark. Unless you're you (which you are), in which case "I" is you and "you" is me, if you're talking to me. If "I" in the above were you then "he" would be either me or Hitler, but since I am "me" and not "Hitler" then "he" would be "me" and by exclusion "you" would be Hitler.

― nabisco%%, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hurrah!! er i mean boo!!

― mark s, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Go! Just so that you can throw overboard anyone who voted for Nader!

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hooray Katha Pollitt++!!

I never knew the editor had such a fantastic name though! I will say it in big letters!

Katrina vanden Heuvel!!!

― Sarah, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh that's just a PLAIN ole name: Vanden Heuvel > From the Hill.

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this sounds frightening! will there be karaoke?

― geeta, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes well it is not as exciting as 'cuba libre' or any of your other names.

OH HOLD ON YES IT IS I LOVE IT! And it is a bit like Underhill then which is a Lord of the Rings reference (thank god no yellow face today it was all getting a bit too much for me)

― Sarah, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooh!! Good idea! Change yr name to just '666'! Not cos you are the devil or anything! But because numbers are good and it would be funny and... okay then maybe not! I did not mean my comment above there to sound snotty by the way!

― Sarah, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I should not go on this cruise!

― Sarah, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is my new name!

Mark go on the cruise.

― jeltronic isotope, Wednesday, 22 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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should i stay or should i go?

Katrina vanden Heuvel!!!