UK Watercooler 36: ANATOLIAN BREAKFAST

36 Officers
36 Hours of light
36 Righteous people
36 times to love, respect and protect the stranger

YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO

Happy now?

Oh no, I don't know what to do!

But you just did!

yay!

We forgot 36 CHAMBERS, doh!

http://www.thewire.co.uk/images/artists/sunn_o/302cover.jpg
Even tom d might be interested in reading about Magma.

Erm.... I'm kind of ashamed to admit...

(whispers)I actually think I might kinda like the new Horrors single(/whispers)

It sounds like Mother Sky. Completely not what I was expecting at all.

be ashamed

I am.

But really, it sounds nothing like them. If you'd played this for me and not told me what it was (which is what the Teenagers did) I'd have been all... wow, is this some nu-Kraut group?

Guess they've been listening to Brand NEU! a bit too much. Sigh.

is there a thread on how nme bands are killing krautrock like the strokes did with television? ;)

I am very grateful to the new Wire cover CD for alerting me to the release of a new Shogun Kunitoki album! Complete with super-expensive LP edition because it has patterns on that form animations if you also buy a mini-strobe to shine at them. Also this news also led me to discover that a 7" I'd been wanting for years because I knew (online) the guy who put it out actually features Shogun Kunitoki members and Lau Nau.

(I think I accidentally hit on Lau Nau once. When I say "accidentally" I mean that drunken attempts to speak languages you don't know are a bad idea. Maybe it was Islaja actually. Whoever it was seemed wildly unimpressed, anyway.)

The new Plan B cover CD is better though, for my money.

incase you dont read the spotify thread... loads of popol vuh and klaus schulze albums were added to spotify today

holy shit http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7948670.stm

That new Wire is ace. I am literally spending all day waiting for the new Sunn O))) to leak, gimme gimme gimme.

he needs some more

Kate - the first half of the Horrors single is lush, the krauty bass etc and the vaguely Stereolab reminiscent keyboard stabs at the start...but his vocals are quite meh, and then it gets very current-NME-indie-productiony sounding in the middle.. But yeah, as far as extended intros go, that's a goodie.

yeah, I'm just ignoring the vocals, as I normally do. But the intro is ace, and I also really like the long, meandering, Moroderesque keyboard outro. Yeah, I know that Krautrock and Space Disco are just the current sounds-de-jour to be dropping for a hipster band - but I can't help it, I like what I like. I always find it really weird when the zeitgeist kind of catches up with the stuff that I like. But I'm too old to complain this time, I'm just going to enjoy it.

I mean, it's not OOH AMAZING BRILLIANT or anything. I'm just surprised I don't hate it.

ARGH. WHAT SHOULD I PLAY TONIGHT!?!?!?

I haven't actually DJ'd since Night of the Long Swords, and I don't have any of my usual stuff on this laptop.

and Anna's on first, so I know she'll end up playing everything I want to play like she ALWAYS does.

Morning

Today started OK, and now I'm feeling cranky and bored.

I'm sick of being unemployed, I'm sick of the internet, I'm sick of feeling lonely and I'm sick of not having the money to do anything.

I'm sick of old people that hate on youngster's fun, and I'm sick of young people who believe that old people are incapable of having fun.

OK, a question.

While we're in NY, there's a gig w/ Lily Allen at the roseland.

What's that place like? Inasmuch as the kids (who would be the ones wanting to go), would they be allowed in?

Roseland... god, that place is an airplane hangar, it's HUUUUGE. I don't remember what the age limit is. You'd have to ask, it's often show specific in NYC - if they don't say, it's usually 21 and over, though. But I've certainly been to shows at Roseland with underage kids.

I only know it from that Portishead live video.

Will have to see, there's loads to do during the day, it's more the evening ents need sorting.

I did see some sort of "Times Square Spring Block Party" advertised for around the time, but everything else I've seen about it suggests it's bogus.

Six hour penetration set.

SIX HOUR FIC.

I'm bored out of my fucking mind. What else could I possibly want to play that I haven't brought?

I have just realised I don't actually want to leave the house today. :-(

I'm sorry, I need to have a bit of a rant, or a cry, or something.

WTF? WTF is wrong with me? I don't know what it is about me that just seems to attract hatred from random people on the internet. Is it tall poppy syndrome? Is it because I'm too eccentric or too enthusiastic when I like something, I really like it?

I just don't seem to be able to go ANYWHERE on the internet without picking up enemies, even when I go out of my way to be friendly and nice to people, there's always someone got a problem with me. And I'm just fucking sick of it, after going on what I thought was a really nice, friendly messageboard, and having a gang of people basically pile on in a clusterfuck of disliking me and criticising me for even being on their messageboard in the first place. It wasn't a disagreement with what I was saying, it was really negative shit on a very personal level.

LIke, WTF did I ever do to you to deserve this?

I should be happy. I just had loads of fun DJing with a whole gang of my friends. Things are actually REALLY GOOD on the music front again - Shimura Curves album coming out after all these years, and, basically, all the Shimuras pulling together over it and putting aside our differences and working together to make something REALLY GOOD out of it.

And I'm reduced to tears by a bunch of idiots on the internet who decide to all gang up and have goes at me because I don't think or act like they seem to think I should.

What the fuck is wrong with me?

Is it tall poppy syndrome? Is it because I'm too eccentric or too enthusiastic when I like something, I really like it?

I think, basically, yes. But this is not a bad thing about you. At all.

You have to remember that a)people who have personalities will be noticed, and b)people on the internet have no problem being heavily insulting and personal about you, whether because they disagree with you or because they dislike your posting style, and c)they don't expect you to care, either because they don't see you as a real person behind the text, or because 'it's just the internet'. And especially if you've developed an exuberant personality online - they expect you to simply stay in that zone, as a 'personality' not a person.

I have seen you post here before in a way that is not conducive to reducing such situations, as well. The best thing to do is either enter zing culture or to step away - on the internet you can rarely if ever talk it out; it becomes an infinite cycle.

On the other hand - Shimura Curves album coming out? That is really exciting news! Focus on that, because it will be brilliant.

I want to be back in London having dun with you and the other curves. I think this is the first real pang of home sickness I've had.

Having dun? Having FUN!!! AWWW, Ed, we missed you. You would have loved last night. You could have got some great knitting tips and been an honourary girl on the decks.

And thanks, emil.y - I was really down about it last night, but today I've decided not to care, and just busy myself in other things.

When it's just one person being a dick, you can kind of ignore it. But when it's a whole gang of guys who decide to gang up and be all 'ME, TOO, I HATE HER TOO" because there's safety in numbers, it can really get through your defenses and get you down. I just don't have the time for that personal crap.

i just feel like saying... you know what, I'm very easy to avoid. I tend to only hang out on specific threads. And no, I don't shut up, and why should I? Why do people go on messageboards, as opposed to writing on blogs? To TALK TO ONE ANOTHER. To interact. And that doesn't have to be in snappy one-liners all the time, it can be thinking in depth. I don't think "it's great" or "it sucks" is enough of an answer, about music. WHY? Why do you like it? Why do you hate it? I ask questions because I want to hear what other people have to say, and I talk - perhaps too much - for the same reason.

If I offend you SO MUCH, you know there's a guaranteed way that you never have to read what I say ever again - Alt and F4.

But whatever. There comes a point where you have to walk away, in order to preserve your own sanity. It's not worth it. It's when the internet becomes my ONLY method of communication with the outside world that the problems start. And I need to remember it's not. I have a life, even if I don't have a job.

yeah, Shimura Curves album coming out this summer! Awesome, huh? now we have to kind of reassemble a band to go with it to do promotion and stuff.

(from Montenegro:) Hooray!

I dug up that "Stronger" single, it's funy, I'd nevere played that b-side before, but having seen a promo for his album (that track included), thought I'd try it. It's nice, but exactly what I'd expected from his pic: A bit like Divine Comedy. (I didn't buy the promo, btw)

Oh wait, I stuck my head in there, and a whole bunch of people were all "argh, she took that the wrong way, noooes, come back!"

Maybe I overreacted a bit. I don't really take well to the sort of slap dash of late night internet when everyone else is drunk and I'm sober and quite tired and feeling a bit... persecuted.

Hello there.

I'm off to be a wedding photographer - for free, as our wedding gift - at the weekend. It's kind of scary, because although I can work a camera I've never tried to do that sort of photography before; the shepherding people around and all that.

But I'm cheerful, partly because a BBC producer called me yesterday and invited me to go on the show I auditioned for the other week. Now I just have to revise for it.

Even tom d might be interested in reading about Magma

Ha, I might buy that Wire! Free CD! So bored with their heavy rock fetish though, yawn...

"Ian Penman on Nick Cave"... oh, fuck off!

Ha, I thought that was the "Specialist Subjeect" !

lol! If I get through to the semifinal round, a music subject is on the cards; but no firm decisions are made until they've finished filming round 1.

Ian Penman on Nick Cave is just a tiny review of some reissues.

AWESOME!! HURRAH, CONGRATS FP OUR SPECIALIST POSTER!!!

thank you!

I am not mentioning what the music subject would be exactly, because I already know that you hate them ;)

First I have to get through round 1, though, with a historical topic.

2 mins on Ocean Colour Scene, begins....

Lol - you never know. I was expecting them to turn down my suggestion, but they seem to like the idea.

its MBV

1st question: "What has Kevin Shields been doing for the last 15 years?"

Forest Pines on the collected works of Belle and Sebastian. ;-)

Kate's knitting him a new cardigan for the semi-final.

Hahahah, that would be brilliant. Is it them, FP?

Is anyone interested in the fact that I met the nephew of the main dude from the Free Design at the weekend? I was interested, but it's rather a lame namedrop, I guess.

Somehow managed to have insomnia last night. Head hurts and am missing important tutor office hour which I need to be utilising to get my essay sorted.

(substitute Joe Longthorne for Frank Carson)

Joe Longthorne was, uh, on everyone's lips on Blackpool too, he's, um, big there too

Yeah I think he spends more time there than in Hull tbh. Last time we went to Blackpool we managed to score the worst Chinese meal I've ever eaten in a place just by the Pleasure Beach.

Crabsticks in my special fried rice = no ta

The best and quickest way to really really annoy Jim Davidson and send him flying into a screaming rage is to mention Joe Longthorne.

^^^ good to know

I didn't realise Joe Longthorne was black

He's Romany I believe.

Ah well, there you go, they come over here selling our clothes pegs

There's a whole section of Hull called Gypsyville, the city has long-lived connections with the Romany community.

Wondered why, so searched and found this review of "Colour Me Kubrick", a film about someone who pretended to be Stanley Kubrick

Alan Conway managed to spend three years blagging his way persuading people he was the famous, reclusive film director Stanley Kubrick.
The acting at times is a little shaky. John Malkovich seems to lose his american accent then regain it then lose it again all in the same day.
Sadly most of the actors who are in the heavy metal bands are unconvincing. The surprise for me was Jim Davidson who plays Lee Pratt.(Joe Longthorne was the actual person who was conned by Alan but refused to allow his name to be used)I am not a fan of Davidsons stand up but he can act(It must have killed him to accept such a camp role)

hmm, didn't kill him too much I guess: Pretend to be Joe Longthorne! righto...

East coast all the way up to Edinburgh, lot of Romany influence - radge for instance! (xp)

I have absolutely no idea at all what you lot are even talking about.

It's high tide and so I can't walk to Ramsgate for my cream tea. Bah.

xpost

Yeah, and I think "chav" comes from Geordie "charver", from Romany "chavo".

i'm going to see the shawcross exo next week - be warned you have to book places in advance (presumably as space is limited)

God, I had forgotten how much I fucking LOVE Alex James. God bless his cheesy little grin.

Whassee done?

Hosted Never Mind The Buzzcocks last night.

Awwwww!

Right, the repeat is on Sunday. I'm there.

SO THERE. And so here. I am basically the human face of jet lag.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00n52l1

Mitch Benn interviewing Rick Wakemen, David Essex etc. about symphonic prog rock concept albums

Why oh why did I come back? I hate London. I want to live by the sea. In some kind of weird Lovecraftian fantasy.

I'd post, but I'd hate to makeit look like I'm always here at all times!

You are always here at all times! I think you have ILX loaded on a blackberry taped to your forehead. ;-)

I wanted to catch up on internets now I have a decent connection again, but stupid thing is being so slow coz it's Saturday night, it's not worth bothering.

OH MY GOODNESS, I need to go to this:

http://moveyourfeettothebeat.blogspot.com/2009/10/defunkt.html

They claim they'll be playing BBC Radiophonic workshop and the like - this could have my name all over it.

I totally need to learn how to knit...

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/06/cthulhumas_came_early_today/new_look.jpg

OK, that is awesome, although it looks like it is crochet. Where can I find the pattern?

things that are great about autumn in the US:

The colours of the trees

things that suck about autumn in the US

The apples

Folk Pyrates

http://www.myspace.com/ukpirates

I can't really tell the difference. I can't remember where I found it - I think I just googled "knitted cthulhu" or something like that.

What's wrong with American apples? Apple picking in upstate NY, om nom nom nom!

Oh, that Buzzcocks episode: Having guest presenters is definitely working.

Plus, once again hateworthy artist makes things difficult by being a totally alright dude.

Which artist was hateworthy?

I even started to like the Veronicas a bit more coz she was so obviously such a big Alex James fan.

She seemed like a nice lass all round really.

Curse you, Kerr, you have sent me into a funk-spin.

its about time

its also about time for watercooler 37

I can't think of a damn thing for 37. I thought it was a spiral galaxy but I might be wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/37_%28number%29

Jing Fang the Chinese Mathematician, Music Theorist and Astrologist died in 36bc.

I'm sure that would be fitting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jing_Fang

37 is a Størmer number.

Some awesome stuff on that 37 wiki page

in 37bc i mean

Municipal Okrug #37, name of Yugo-Zapad Municipal Okrug of Krasnoselsky District of Saint Petersburg, Russia, before 2009

... it was on the tip of my tongue

Caligula became emperor of Rome in 37AD

Nope. I don't like any of those. I'm gonna go out on a limb and call it something crazy.

http://thirty-seven.org/index.html

Devo has a song titled "37".

Jerry Seinfeld "oversqueezes" his gas by 37 cents in an American Express commercial.

# In Cool Hand Luke, Lucas Jackson's (Paul Newman's) prison number is 37.

Andy Capp lives at #37.

UK Watercooler 37: My Marxist Feminist Dialectic Brings All The Boys To The Yard

They didn't used to always have to go with the number. Sometimes they just rhymed. Many of them were just plain nonsense. I checked.