He passed from cancer the other day. A brief note from Nikki Finke along with some comments from fans and former students.
I figure I don't need to tell many of the heavy film buffs here about Final Cut as well as some of Bach's other work -- his biography about Leni Reifenstahl a few years back was another great book and I need to read some of his other work -- but for everyone else: Final Cut was Bach's from-the-inside take on Michael Cimino's Heaven's Gate and the downfall of UA as an independent company (though admittedly Transamerica had already bought it some years beforehand -- they'd more or less kept a hands-off policy until the Heaven's Gate prompted a sale to MGM and Krikorian, which in a roundabout way explains how Ted Turner eventually got the UA library).
It is absolutely key reading, a snapshot of a time/place that only seems to grow more important with time. It's one of the few books I dip back into every couple of years, last time being just some weeks back -- he was an informed, funny, and very self-aware and self-critical voice. By no means is it just about Cimino and Heaven's Gate -- a major subplot involves the gestation of Raging Bull, for example -- and by expanding the larger context of the film's making he provides a sharp history of the industry and one studio in particular as it further adjusted from self-contained status to part of larger business empires. Meanwhile as a portrait of the end of the seventies and the start of Reagan's time it has a wealth of observational detail scattered throughout, economic, political and otherwise.
Get this book if you haven't already, I can't underscore this enough -- for me it's up there with The Devil's Candy and DisneyWar.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)
Absolutely agree - it's a great book and until I read it I didn't really believe the stories. But it's not sensationalist - just great journalism.
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:36 (sixteen years ago)
And so, RIP.
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
I've tried reading the first 25 pages twice and put it down, but I will return to Final Cut soon.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:37 (sixteen years ago)
(Disney War IS terrific)
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:38 (sixteen years ago)
Give it another chance, Alfred -- first time through I was a little unsure about it as well but you have to come into it less from a 'all right, all the dirt on Heaven's Gate!' standpoint and realize it's much more inclusive than that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:42 (sixteen years ago)
I somehow don't see any present/future movie execs being von Sternberg / Riefenstahl scholars.
clip from Final Cut docfilm:
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2009/03/ciminos_epitaph.php
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:01 (sixteen years ago)
Damn, never knew about this documentary based on the book! Going to get a hold of that for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)
RIP
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)
I haven't read Final Cut, but Disney War is great.
― Event Horizon (Nicole), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)
final cut was such a wonderful book. rip
― mmmm space tang (stevie), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
I really enjoyed that book, but the only detail that sticks with me after all these years is that he called Isabellle Huppert a "potato-faced peasant."
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:17 (sixteen years ago)
Peasants know about potatoes, presumably.
― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2009 00:40 (sixteen years ago)
Well, it takes about that many pages to cover United Artists' backstory and the history of the other studios before getting to the Heaven's Gate dirt proper. The rest is fantastic - if I were at all organized, I'd shelve my copy right beside Easy Riders and Raging Bulls.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 2 April 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)
'final cut' is a classic.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 2 April 2009 09:27 (sixteen years ago)
abt halfway through FINAL CUT, Bach meets w/ a 'famous' director and tentatively sounds him out abt taking over HEAVEN'S GATE. this obv came to nothing, and the director is never named - anybody have any ideas who it was?
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 2 April 2009 09:37 (sixteen years ago)
Norman Jewison.
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:04 (sixteen years ago)
Or David Lean (says imdb trivia!).
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:07 (sixteen years ago)
The whole thing is on youtube...start here...
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:16 (sixteen years ago)
That was supposed to be "starts here" - now it looks like a command...
― commons hack spat (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:22 (sixteen years ago)
I think I tossed Final Cut last time I moved cuz I'd owned it for years and never read it. Will gwet to it from the library some year.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 April 2009 13:35 (sixteen years ago)
this book is the best book
― johnny crunch, Friday, 25 May 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)
yes. total page turner.
― Sisig Steve (stevie), Friday, 25 May 2012 16:27 (thirteen years ago)
Yes also
― Get wolves (DL), Friday, 25 May 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
i watched the doc on this toothere was a part where they flung out a line from the article that the extra dude wrote during production that read:
"Cimino interviewed up to 300 horses for the battle scenes"
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 27 May 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)
http://jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/mww-1-web.jpg
^reading this now, its m/l the extension of disney war, loving it
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 2 March 2014 14:44 (eleven years ago)
Yeah I've read that a couple of times but there were a bit clunky bits -- including some flat out errors -- that kept me from loving it completely. That said it's still a gas.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 March 2014 16:39 (eleven years ago)
curious what the errors are -- are walter parkes and laurie macdonald not as attractive as is mentioned ~20 times?
― johnny crunch, Friday, 7 March 2014 19:29 (eleven years ago)
Haha exactly. Nah a lot of it was more "Wow they REALLY don't employ fact checkers any more, do they?" level of glitch.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 March 2014 20:04 (eleven years ago)
Irritated at myself for not keeping my old copy of "The Devil's Candy" when I moved
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 7 March 2014 23:58 (eleven years ago)
^has been on my to-read list for awhile, reminded of it as a jeop q last nite
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 8 March 2014 00:09 (eleven years ago)
started Fatal Subtraction which strikes me could belong in this type of hyper-detailed behind the scenes of hollywood genre… it is the story of art buchwald suing paramount for not crediting him on Coming to America
odd detail in background describing the then ceo of paramounts parent company, Martin Davis…
Davis dined at the White House, traveled around the world in the corporation’s sleek Gulfstream jet and hobnobbed with the likes of Bob and Larry Tisch, Pete Rozelle and Donald Trump. He once gave Trump a copy of Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf as a gift.
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 01:12 (two years ago)
I think I may have read this one! Is a lot of it at the start about cheque swindles involving Clive Davis? I feel like I read a bunch of books like this 15 or so years ago...
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 08:44 (two years ago)
Indecent Exposure by David McClintick is the one about the head of Columbia Pictures, David Begelman, getting fired for forging actor Cliff Robertson's name on a $10,000 check (iirc Clive Davis was one of the anti-Begelman crowd who didn't want him reinstated/forgiven).
Fatal Subtraction is much less interesting, unfortunately. It's co-written by the main lawyer for Art Buchwald, and is tediously self-aggrandising - and also seems to massively overstate the cultural importance of Art Buchwald and his works. There are interesting details about Eddie Murphy's star power and the incredible things he could demand/get away with at the height of his fame.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 09:40 (two years ago)
Ah, thanks Ward. Have definitely read Indecent Exposure, but the stuff about Eddie is verrrry familiar so I've no doubt I've read that one too.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 09:59 (two years ago)