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Admittedly a bit belated, but let me sing the praises of it -- especially the last several episodes -- ESPECIALLY the finale -- whooo, some great cliffhanging action -- good to turn the brain down to minimal thinklevel and just have fun with having fun watching the fun ---

― Leee, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you have a tv show? do tits jiggle in it?

― Queen G of the Arctic Nile, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She runs a lot in skimpy outfits -- but she's kind of---

― Leee, Saturday, 25 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

I saw my first episode of this yesterday (Dear Channel 4. Why oh why are you showing Alias at 5.30 on a Saturday afternoon? It's almost as bad scheduling as Ch5 throwing away 'Popular' at Saturday lunchtime!) and I think it's great! It's like Buffy x 24 x True Lies and Jennifer Garner is superb at portraying the crypto-emotional wreck of Sydney Bristow and yesterday's episode was directed by Ken Olin who -I think- used to be Michael in thirtysomething!

B-b-but what do the ILE telecide squad make of it?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Dark Angel! (haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure it's great, I just hate those extra long oopening episodes, and I know I should be watching Dawson's right now but never fear I am videoing it)

Alias, I may start watching but as Jerry says the scheduling is crappy.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 22 September 2002 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

5:30 scheduling is a direct attack on BBC and ITV's mishandling of Saturday Tea Time TV. STTTV used to be the biggest point of the week, family sitting round watching TV together (Basil Brush & Doctor Who being the tophole unbeatable double bill). Now this has faded - audience research has possibly shown that families don't sit around together, let alone have tea. Yet this remains a fervent time for schedulers to toy with new ideas. C5 hasn't done bad with tea-time genre - though Alias seems a little bit too grown up. The idea of a drama series on C4 at 8pm though seems ridiculous.

It is unfortunately looking a bit like their bizarre mishandling of both Angel and Enterprise - both of which if presented at a family viewing slot (and regular slot) could have done rather well. Indeed their buying practices smell more of a BBC spoiler - not even filler for E4 (since Sky have both).

― Pete (Pete), Sunday, 22 September 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

They did try Angel in a more family slot, at 6pm, I believe, but they kept cutting so much of a dark nature from it that it was making no sense at all. But the channels have no respect at all for American stuff they buy, however great. Buffy, Homicide, Oz, Larry Sanders, many of the best TV series ever have been shunted around at random, cancelled whenever there is some interesting golf on (oxymoronic, for me, but BBC2 don't agree) or shown at insanely late times. Angel, Enterprise, Alias and Dark Angel have done okay so far, in comparison.

I think that it's an okay time for Alias, myself. Garner is great, but I've never been a spy fan, so I don't know how long it will hold my interest. The setup of Dark Angel is more to my taste, and I adore Jessica Alba, but I've a feeling this won't hold my interest too long, due to not being any good.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 September 2002 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

''But the channels have no respect at all for American stuff they buy, however great. Buffy, Homicide, Oz, Larry Sanders, many of the best TV series ever have been shunted around at random, cancelled whenever there is some interesting golf on''

Seinfeld had the same treatment when its easily better than (say) Coupling (which is OK, the new series starts tomorrow).

Buffy does go at a reasonable hour. Oz and homicide are a bit too much for anyhting earlier than 11pm, I feel but i totally agree on larry sanders.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Buffy gets cancelled and shunted an awful lot; the previous series of Oz was on at about 2am; Homicide was shuffled around, and they didn't even buy the last series. I never liked Seinfeld. Lots of sensible people kept saying how good it was, and I kept checking it out again, and it was never interesting or funny at all.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

homicide started OK but it somehow lost it for me in later series (though i can't remember why). must disagree on seinfeld but the point is it got the same appaling treatment as larry sanders.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Alias is a fantastic show. Watch it!

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 22 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

i always used to get annoyed that they'd plug nypd blue to hell and then shove homicide on at 2am. put things on at 2am and then cancel them because nobody watches them, duh! (see also 'millenium')

(btw, the shield, upcoming on ch5 looks promising)

watched dark angel this morning before work and enjoyed it. i think it shares a writer with buffy (and she reminds me of faith. no bad thing). tv preview on sunday said that it was reminiscent of 'v for vendetta' and i can kinda see that also. probably enjoyed this more than alias.

andy

― koogs, Monday, 23 September 2002 09:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Buffy's writer is Joss Whedon, who I don't think has had any link to Dark Angel. It's very much a post-Buffy show, though.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 10:40 (twenty-three years ago)

i win 8) (ok, we'll call it a draw)

imdb.com 'common people' search...

Here are the people credited in the following movies..

1. "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
2. "Dark Angel" (2000)

Kevin Patrick Burns
Sound Department: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Sound Department: "Dark Angel" (2000)
James A. Contner
Director: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Director: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Producer: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Jim Fitzpatrick (I)
Sound Department: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Sound Department: "Dark Angel" (2000)
John T. Kretchmer
Director: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Director: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Jose Molina (I)
Writer: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Miscellaneous crew: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Miscellaneous crew: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Todd Orr
Sound Department: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Sound Department: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Rick Shick
Visual Effects: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Visual Effects: "Dark Angel" (2000)
Doris Bigglethwaite
Assistant Tea Lady: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" (1997)
Tea and Cakes: "Dark Angel" (2000)

(ok, i added that bottom one...)

andy

― koogs, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dark Angel is cancelled now anyway.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:14 (twenty-three years ago)

My male friends were all hugely disappointed that Jennifer Garner only had red hair for the first episode. Me, I didn't even get through the pilot - reminded me of Felicity too much.

― B:Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:35 (twenty-three years ago)

If Felicity had evil henchmen getting beaten and tortured, it would have been entertaining though!

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:40 (twenty-three years ago)

It's true. It's exactly like Felicity - except that she's secretly a kick ass double agent, and is secretly in love with her CIA handler, and secretly is working with her own father, and secretly flies to other continents for a bit of high glamour espionage - all this between her understandably overdue term papers.

― Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 02:46 (twenty-three years ago)

do they even bother with the grad student story any more? or did they have her finish up one day or something?

― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I have been waiting for a thread on this programme. And now I find it has existed awhile.

Amazingly, I have been watching it longer than the Nipper. I am somehow touched by the Nipper's enthusiasm for it. Perhaps it's the old Saturday-evening-in-England thing, and we are both responding to memories of It's A Knockout (was that Sat?) and Brookside omnibuses.

I agree with the Nipper that it's like his fave Buffy the VS prog, in at least one respect: its total preposterousness. I find it hard to follow.

I don't get the talk of Garner being grate, unless you're talking about her outfits and all the rest of it which are obviously grate.

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 08:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Much as I love Buffy, I can't think of a better lead performer in a TV action-adventure show in a long time, The Pinefox. This is based on pretty brief exposure, admittedly, but she strikes me as a genuinely very good actress.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 16:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting, Mr S - but any more detail?

(BTW I naturally don't like yr 'Buffy' prog)

(PS / Thanks as ever for including the The in Pinefox)

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I think she may be bad but that this is beside the point.

(that is I am unable to decide if she is bad or not.)

― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I have only seen the pilot of Alias, so I may be wrong, but I thought she handled a difficult range of emotions (the anger, disgust and grief were very good) and sometimes looked as if she was actually thinking, in a way more nuanced than just frowning and pausing. I'm not trying to make major claims here and I wouldn't dream of putting her in the same class as, say, Andre Braugher in Homicide (my favourite actor in a substantial series ever). I watch quite a lot of these shows aimed at teen audiences, Star Treks, Buffy, Dark Angel, Charmed, and I can't think of any performances in any of these that strike me as better than Garner in Alias - you may consider that rather faint praise...

I have already written too much about this, given that I've seen one show and might want to recant after the next episode/s.

Why don't you like Buffy? It's one of my all-time favourite TV shows.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Vampires?

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, that made me slightly reluctant when it started, but I tried it anyway. I appreciate that you state that you don't like it, rather than the stance I face with some other people, who have never watched it for the same (non-mad) reason but are still completely confident it is worthless rubbish.

(haha I have taken that stance elsewhere! I remember getting into a debate on a comic called Moonshadow, which I was claiming was utter drivel, and my opponent asked if I had read it all the way through. I said I hadn't read any of it at all and he refused to discuss the matter further. This was in a pub next to a comic mart, so I walked next door, found the collected edition, opened it and randomly read a spread, and returned to the fray, proved right.)(I was sure of my stance there because I had read plenty of the writer, in particular, before, so was certain he would never write anything good!)

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Remind me re. Moonshadow - the name takes me back...

― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 September 2002 10:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Moonshadow was a comic written by the unspeakably dreadful J.M. DeMatteis and painted by one or two of those people who were just skilled enough at painting that comic book editors who knew no better hired them. I may be being slightly unkind, in that whoever it was (Jon Jay Muth? Can't remember) was a lot better than many comic-painters I've seen (take one step forward Jim Starlin). It was badly-written twaddle.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 27 September 2002 10:47 (twenty-three years ago)

seven months pass...

I don't like all the attention Dawson's and Smallville are getting. REVIVE.

― Leee (Leee), Sunday, 27 April 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

yo, how about the last ten minutes of the season finale? that was a great non-sequitur plot twist!

― slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 5 May 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking all along, "this is a pretty ho-hum finale," but the show totally redeemed itself there.

― slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 5 May 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed. I got dizzy watching. And best yet... (but first some ample

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― Leee (Leee), Monday, 5 May 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought the ending was totally contrived and uninteresting, one of those "ooh the viewers will be so shocked!" moves that ended up being banal and disappointing.

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

What does the National Front have to do with "Alias" (besides providing the fabulous wigs, of course).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 5 May 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

ha!

― slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

I'm planning to be unemployed, depressed and indulgent for the next few weeks, and have decided to rent and guzzle this on DVD. A good idea or waste of time? I saw one ep in the 1st series and enjoyed it.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

it was pretty entertaining up until this season, when some very bad decisions were made. have yous seen 24 or buffy chuck? those are my two favourite dvd-tv timesuckers. also band of brothers, for some reason.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I did the Buffy DVD timesuck a couple years ago after getting dumped. Bliss. But Band of Brothers... I'll check that out, thanx!

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm watching buffy season 3 for the second time now! it is making me SO HAPPY!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Best to re-watch S1=3 and pretend the other ones never happened (except for the odd episode here and there).

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Band of Brothers is fantastic, like Savig Private Ryan if it didn't suck. And I like Alias this year, I like how they essentially turned the series on its head halfway through season 2 as well. Really great show.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck, either watch that Shield DVD or send it to me like you promised.

;)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

season 2 (of buffy) will probably always be my sentimental favourite, but the writing really hit a peak in season 3 I think!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

eww you guys like the shield?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

YES

(well, I do anyway)

ewww to you.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate that chiklis guy!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean THIS GUY?:

http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2002/09-27/photos/chiklis.jpg

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

no, that's don rickles!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, and this is Ed O'Neill:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.bundastranky.cz/obr/ed_kingdom1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bundastranky.cz/ed_kingdom.htm&h=539&w=480&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ded%2Bo%2Bneill%2Bkingdom%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.breaktv.com/nbc/images/nbc10k_oneill.JPG

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

LIARS. Any bad decisions occurred in season 2. Season 3 is complete gold, and the tail end of season 1 too.

― Leee Smith (Leee), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno man, it's really lost my interest--they way they dithered around that "who killed that russian diplomat that no one cares about" thing really got on my nerves

also the fact that no one at the agency seemed to really care what alias had been doing for two years and just put her back on active duty

(same way they put her dad on duty right after he was released from prison after being put their for TREASON CHARGES!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want realism and logic, obviously you ought to 24!!!!!

― Leee Smith (Leee), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

realism whatev, it just bugged me how serious they were being about the dead-diplomat thing, they just wouldn't shut up about the damn thing!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Alias should be more realistic like 24. When did Jennifer Garner last get attacked by a mountain lion?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never followed the plots in Alias that closely, because the prime cuts are in the "Here's Syd's mission, suddenly there's a hitch and how's she gonna get out of it?" vein. And not-so-dead diplomat is just a vehicle to get there, i.e. this year's Rimbaldi.

― Leee Smith (Leee), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Though this year's Rimbaldi = Rimbaldi after all.

― Leee Smith (Leee), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so dissapointed that dumb shit is back!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...

I just finished watching the first season on DVD - never seen it before but I'm obsessed I think. Never have I seen a show which has been so ruthlessly dedicated to the goal of having a season-ending-worthy cliffhanger on every single show.

Also, Vaughn and Tipping are like my two alternate models of hotness.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 21 November 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

This is such an embarrassing thread. Which is why I started another one!

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 21 November 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Never have I seen a show which has been so ruthlessly dedicated to the goal of having a season-ending-worthy cliffhanger on every single show.

Have you not seen 24?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 November 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

24 is a special case I imagine, but I've only seen one or two episodes of it anyway.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 22 November 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

24 is a whole series of cliffhangers tied together by a plot, rather than the other way round.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 November 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

What has happened to this show - where IS it?

― Kim (Kim), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It's coming back in January.

― Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Really. wow. That's an insanely long hiatus isn't it? I don't really even remember what was happening at the end of the last season now. It was getting a bit sketchy though - and now that Jen's dating the Affleck, well that's just... ew.

― Kim (Kim), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What Leon/Nicole said --> Rationale: Instead of teasing/frustrating us with a fall season of episodes repeatedly interrupted by American football, ABC chose to bring ALIAS to air episodes on a more regular basis this spring.

I'll forgive ABC that...I just hope they can figure out a way to kill off Mlle. Bristow's real-life leading man.

My $0.02:

24 (1st season) = ALIAS (1st season)
24 (ever since) < ALIAS (ever since)

― Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously folx, please to post at Super! Sexy!! Spy!!! Suspense!!!! ALIAS!!!!! instead.

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 22 November 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

seven years pass...

I keep watching Alias but ultimately I think it's so fucking lame. Maybe because I quite dislike Jennifer Garner. Somehow I do like Bradley Cooper in this. Weird because I dislike him as much as Jennifer Garner (apart from this). I think I keep watching because 1 my husband recommended it and 2 QUENTIN AMY IRVING LENA OLIN et all popping up! That kind of saves it. For the rest? Blergh.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

nine months pass...

are there any other shows that had clip episodes before they even finished their first season? (s01e17, here.)

― j., Sunday, 18 November 2012 07:30 (thirteen years ago)

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