People you were bummed to find out were right wingers.

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This guy is a Sci-Fi Nerd and into Star Trek. He was also Murdock on A-Team. He hosts a conservative radio show. How did this happen??

Murdock was my fave, thanks for ruining that for me!

cartooner Mark Martin

I was bummed about Mel Gibson at the time ...now it just makes his film choices make more sense.

This guy is a Sci-Fi Nerd and into Star Trek.

Wait, is this supposed to make me think he's cool?

Ron Silver, although I was more bummed out that he was dead because I didn't know he was a con until I read an obituary.

Mr T radio show: would listen

A. K. Dewdney, who may or may not be right wing (he's British, I don't know) but he IS a 9/11 'truther.' ;_;

jesus

Clint Eastwood, Dennis Hopper, various aunts and uncles, father, etc

Mo Tucker

what??

re: Ron Silver, the obits I read made him out to be siding with Bush solely on interventionist issues -- did he make a full-on conversion?

re: "This guy is a Sci-Fi Nerd and into Star Trek. Wait, is this supposed to make me think he's cool?"
nerd + star trek = progressive (or so I thought -- I can't believe anyone would be in it for the special effects and space fights)

Norm McDonald

I'm just surprised you say 'into Star Trek' instead of 'actually had a recurring role *on* Star Trek' (TNG years).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MHeQn9gfwcM/R1HLr-iduFI/AAAAAAAAAPA/aNDL1JhqYBA/s1600-R/Ben+Stein.jpg

norm?! no!

Mike Nelson

Bill "Sadface" Willingham

what?? - To be fair, I don't know the extent of Mo's political leanings, but I recall reading an interview in which she was making some alarmingly pro-censorship statements, which sort of bummed me out.

I don't love Joe Rogan or anything, but I was still embarassed for him when I learned he thinks the moon landing was a hoax.

john malkovich (tho i don't know if he's so much right wing as just wacko)

lots of old-time movie stars like James Stewart & Steve McQueen.

I was still embarassed for him when I learned he thinks the moon landing was a hoax.

I don't know if that's right wing so much as wacko, as the only person I know that really believed in that was a far left conspiracy theorist.

Mike Nelson

― Event Horizon (Nicole), Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:18 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

For real?

Clint Eastwood is a moderate Republican. If that equals right winger in your book, then fine. He's a bit more liberal than Schwarzenegger, though they're roughly in the same spot on the political spectrum.

not that i really care about charleton heston, but when i read that he was a big civil rights dude and saw photos like this it makes me a little sad to think about what he turned into:

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/64/79/Poitier_Belafonte_Heston_Civil_Rights_March_1963.0.0.0x0.427x600.jpeg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Heston_Baldwin_Brando_Civil_Rights_March_1963.jpg

Yes, for real!

Q54 (Forrest): Believe it or not, there have actually been discussions on our discussion board about whether or not you are independent, republican or democrat. Paul Chaplin and Kevin Murphy have often shared their political views with the world. So what are yours? Are you an elephant, a donkey, or neither?

A54: Well, let me say this, I read the National Review cover to cover. Check in at Townhall.com every day. Check the Washington Times daily. Listen to Dennis Prager and Michael Medved on a regular basis. Read Mark Steyn with regularity. Read the Weekly Standard. So, yes, I do vote Republican. As the pundit Hugh Hewitt has observed, there are indeed two Americas: Serious America and Silly America. The Democrats seem bent on turning this into Silly America, so I stick with those who wish this to remain Serious America.

Of course, in addition, as angry as it makes me, I check in with the monolithic press: the NY Times, the L.A. Times, the Boston Globe. One thing I can’t do, that makes me just insanely angry, is read my local paper, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, known to many as the Star and Sickle, or the Red Star Tribune.

I don't know if that's right wing so much as wacko, as the only person I know that really believed in that was a far left conspiracy theorist.

Yeah I think this goes for 9/11 truthers too.

jesus - no way, Jesus was a total pinko.

Jesus was a hippie!

i always liked joel hodgson more anyway

mike nelson is the only bummer so far

but yeah joel is the dude

Yeah the Mike Nelson thing has been known for a while. I suspect he doesn't entirely realize that citing Hugh as Serious America might not fly these days.

Jesus was anti-semitic.

dunno about Malky, he supported Obama. although yes there are plenty of people on record calling him "very right wing"

Clint Eastwood is a moderate Republican. If that equals right winger in your book, then fine. He's a bit more liberal than Schwarzenegger, though they're roughly in the same spot on the political spectrum.

Sorta, in that neither toe the party line, but they still have very little in common in terms of political beliefs - Eastwood is a pretty hardcore leave-me-alone libertarian whereas Arnold is in the conservative Democrat / RINO grey zone.

Kelsey Grammer

Prince (Though his political opinions always seem to have been kinda unclear. His Jehovah's Witness inspired conservative comments are kinda depressing, but I'm not sure how down with the JW morals he is these days.)

Bill "Sadface" Willingham

He never really kept it a secret, did he? I agree that it's kinda bummer because he's an otherwise good writer.

joel hodgson's not... is he?

Arnold is down with teh gays, has taken aggressive anti-global warming positions, would probably legalize weed if he thought it would fly - dude is not all that right-wing. (I still pretty much hate him though)

Kelsey Grammar surely isn't that much of a surprise

Prince's politics are totally incoherent btw

xp iatee: Arnold is more than a Republican in Name Only. Jacking up the state sales tax is a pretty Republican move.

lots of old-time movie stars like James Stewart & Steve McQueen.

No offense, but I can't imagine anyone "finding out" James Stewart was right-wing. Seems kinda obvious.

actually come to think of it that retarded all-bacon diet mike nelson was doing makes a lot more sense now.

xp Shakey: I don't know if anyone is saying Arnold is a right-winger.

I was very disappointed to see that Buck Dharma has a link to the National Review on his website. I don't know whether that implies and endorsement, but I think it does.

No way is Schwarzenegger a right-winger, I don't care if there's an (R) after his name.

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christina hendricks

xxp (which clint wouldn't do, presumably)

Christina Hendricks?!

myself

― Mordy, Wednesday, November 4, 2015 11:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:-P

it's been a while since i heard this but, robert downey jr.

he's p cagey about it but his right-wingery would make total sense

reformed-gay rightwinger

i'm not exactly "bummed," and idk if he's really part of the hollywood republican set. he's said in the past (something like) you can't go through prison and come out a liberal.

in the vast majority of cases such initiatives aren't corporative structures emerging organically out of demand/need, but hierarchical directives passed down to generate streams of revenue, loyalty and outreach.

otm right here.

tho i wouldn't be opposed to anarchist collectives receiving massive tax subsidies for spreading the anarchic gospel and purchasing real estate

90's New Labour stans like Steve Coogan who are unreconstructed Tory cunts but have this precarious, delusional self image of their socialist virtues because of a lower m/c background or because they voted for Kinnock once. People like this are far more insidious and repulsive than Lord Webber to me. I am never surprised when any public figure turns out to be a self interested right wing type though.

people you were bummed to find out got an atrocious haircut: Kennedy

― vlade dvorak (rip van wanko), Thursday, November 5, 2015 4:44 PM (4 hours ago)

bobby kennedy had a good haircut!

steve coogan's guardian article during the labour leadership election in which he said look I'm rich and it doesn't really matter to me if the uk has a tory government or a labour government therefore I can objectively say that andy burnham is the best was weird

lol, missed that one. Thinking Andy Burnham is the best isn't necessarily the sign of unreconstructed tory cuntishness though- it's more the attitude towards Corbyn that shows their true colours.

appearing on fox news isn't necessarily a definitive statement. i'm told that father damian has a standing invite to appear on fox news's overnight program, as the host is a huge fan.

theo walcott.

he still thinks he's a striker though

lol at even questioning the profitability of megachurches. The idea that they're a con stems largely from the fact that they harness the individualist impulses of their congregations to amass wealth on behalf of their pastors/leading personalities who largely retain control of it. I'd imagine that dynamic puts them at stark odds with core anarcho-collectivist principles.

A megachurch offering day-care, insurance, benefits etc. to its members is no different in principle to a locally centered corporation doing the same. To characterise it as "people making their own way and making these structures" is simply false when in the vast majority of cases such initiatives aren't corporative structures emerging organically out of demand/need, but hierarchical directives passed down to generate streams of revenue, loyalty and outreach.

― tsrobodo, Thursday, November 5, 2015 2:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Plus, every business is started by people.

― Mark G, Thursday, November 5, 2015 3:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with the exception of church, i suppose.

Andrew WK did a mostly kayfabe-breaking interview with Tom Scharpling a couple of years back where he talks about the weirdness of being at the Fox Network, and emphasized not being any near Fox ideologically. It's part of his charming positivity schtick.

Gordon Brown

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I was very surprised to hear Moe Tucker being thought of as a Tea Party affiliate whenever word was going around about that. Not sure if that was a totally accurate story but does seem she was much more conservative than the rest of the band, or the fact taht she was in that band at all might suggest.
Would think she was something of a female musical icon.

Yeah, Moe's pretty clear cut, not that I ever thought the Velvets were left-wing. Why would you?

http://www.stereogum.com/550602/moe-tucker-explains-tea-party-affiliation/top-stories/

Don't see many of these names here, but perhaps they should be - http://www.motherjones.com/media/2009/07/im-rand

Is this thread reserved for "famous" people?

Because I want to say my mom. Very disappointing.

Finding it really ironic after the last week's facebook posts that i had any doubt that MOe tucker was a right winger. She's just upped a Britain First meme and had some people wondering if she knew who they were while others said yeah she does, which is why she posted.

I always thought that music as transgressive as the Velvet underground would be made by forward looking people which I associate with the left. So finding it really creepy to find out what Moe's views are.
Not sure what anybody else in the band would be saying right now. Wonder if there has been any reaction from either Yule or Cale to what Moe tends to put on her Facebook page.

I always thought that music as transgressive as the Velvet underground would be made by forward looking people which I associate with the left.

So much wrong with this sentence tbh.

A lot of the new school "Islam is not a race so I can't possibly be a racist BOO-YA" types act all uncomfortable to be associated with bad right-wing Nazi types -- but they get over that discomfort after a while, I have noticed.

I'd definitely be surprised if someone from the VU started expressing conservative views on queer/gender/sexuality issues. Otherwise, it would never have occurred to me to associate them with left-wing politics. (Plenty of transgressive music has been made by people from all over the political spectrum.) It was a pretty big shift when Reed started doing some political songs in the 80s, wasn't it?

I only know the broad outlines of Moe's career, but a lot of people who were involved in 60s drug/transgressive culture ended up turning their backs on it or going normal. First of all she was in a band that seemingly had contempt for hippies, after she left music she ended up raising kids and working at Walmart, had a career resurrection in the late 80s thanks to a noted libertarian.

had a career resurrection in the late 80s thanks to a noted libertarian.

Jad Fair is a libertarian as well? Fuck.

meant Penn

Cale's solo career indicates some p lefty tendencies

son of a coal miner isn't he? can't see him being anything but

I only know the broad outlines of Moe's career, but a lot of people who were involved in 60s drug/transgressive culture ended up turning their backs on it or going normal.

moe tucker was always kind of an outsider to that "scene" as she takes pains to explain whenever asked. it's obviously way more complicated (and sad) than this but in some ways her experience in the VU was the exception, not the rule, in her life.

she did quit rock n' roll to settle down and have five kids

Then returned for the early days of Sun City Girls from what I can remember. Or was that pre-retirement.
I saw her in the UK in the late 80s singing a lot of songs about blue collar work.

My first love, Stacey Dash

just noticed that Margi Clarke follows the batshit rightwing cartoonist Ben Garrison on twitter, on further investigation she seems to be a Trump supporter :(

Teddy Ruxpin. I put a rock and roll tape in his player and he spat it out and said play some classical music instead

Margi Clarke is a disciple of David Icke, which does manifest itself as anti -Clinton, pro-Russia, etc conspiracy theorising but has...other roots than traditional right-wing politics.

yes, she seems more of a conspiracy theorist than trad right-winger. she follows a depressingly high number of "white genocide" types on twitter, though.

I managed to miss this at the time, somehow:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/britain-first-meme-shared-by-chuckle-brother-barry-elliott-sparks-fury_uk_56f01a2fe4b0cc1ede8c7082

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56f033391e00008700704d99.png

(though he may well have been unaware of its provenance, tbf)

I am more surprised that one of Chuckle Brothers is roughly the same age as Cannon & Ball than that he is standard UKIP supporting scum. Lol, you inspired me to check Bobby Ball's twitter account, it seems very benign in comparison + quite touchingly seems dominated with lots of retweets of people talking about how funny Cannon & Ball were. They are probably both right wingers as well tho:p

Cannon & Ball were born agains at some point iirc, obv that usually comes with a particular kind of right wing territory but maybe they're not evangelical about it

fucking disappointed with Barry Chuckle tho, surely the correct response for an expat terrorist should be to bounce them backwards and forwards between countries in a "to me, to you" motion

xp they published this:

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The place where my dad worked in Morley organised a christmas trip for the employees kids to see Cannon & Ball at Bradford Alhambra doing Jack & the Beanstalk. I loved those guys back then and even kept the faith with them when Boys in Blue hit the cinemas years later.

http://www.cannonandball.com/images/MainPageImage/Jump.png

Billy Pearce had the alhambra sown up!

http://www.its-behind-you.com/bradfordpantos.html

xp niche-interest message boards that are surprisingly un-vibrant in 2016

bummed to find out Goofy is extremely right wing

Erik Lamela

Where did this Christina Hendricks is right-wing thing originate, btw?

As far as I can tell, especially after listening to her episode on Janet Varney's JV Club podcast a couple years ago, she's mum on politics other than social issues, at which point she seems quite progressive.

Chuckle Brothers simultaneously on two different threads.

that's no way to talk about Fred B

benjy bronk