george lucas-racist?

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noticed this in the old local paper, think it speaks more about those in the focus group and their own hang-ups than lucas, seems rather stalinist to have a focus group comment on whether this film is PC enough. ---

George Lucas, sometimes accused of reinforcing racial stereotypes with his movies, has done it again, according to critics. Latino critics in particular charge his latest Star Wars epic, Episode II: Attack of the Clones, toys with American paranoia about Mexican immigration with its cloned army of swarthy lookalikes who march in lockstep by the tens of thousands, and ultimately end up serving as Darth Vader's white-suited warriors. Modeled on bounty hunter Jango Fett, the clones, we're told, are genetically modified for docility and obedience. The breeding project, conducted by long-necked aliens who look like refugees from Close Encounters of the Third Kind, takes place on the planet Kamino -- soundalike for the Spanish word "camino," which means "road" or "I walk." Temuera Morrison, the actor who plays Jango, is a New Zealander of Maori descent. But that didn't get in the way of some members of an eight-person Detroit News panel assembled to review the film. "He looked totally Latino," says Martina Guzman, a Detroiter who's managing a State House election campaign. "And his kid," says Wayne State history professor Jose Cuello, referring to the young Boba Fett, "looked even more Latino." It reminds Cuello a little bit of "those Reagan ads in the 1980 campaign, that suggested if Nicaragua went communist, you'd have wild-eyed Mexicans with guns running across the California border." A flabbergasted Lucasfilm spokeswoman, Jeanne Cole, says "This is the first we've heard of this. Star Wars," she says, "is a fantasy movie filled with creatures and aliens from all different planets and universes and galaxies. There is no basis for this." Lucas was in Cannes and could not be reached for comment. The celebrated mythmaker has been through what some might call the p.c. mill before. In 1999, a furor erupted over The Phantom Menace's Jar Jar Binks, a floppy-eared alien whom some read as a sort of Stepin Fetchit by way of the West Indies. "Everyone I've ever spoken to says there's a Rastafarian element to his speech, his walk, and in his 'dread' ears," says copy editor Robert del Valle, who was on The News panel with Guzman and Cuello. But such allegations were dismissed as "absurd" by Lucas in a Thursday interview published in the Washington Post. "People say, 'He sounds Caribbean.' Well, he doesn't. He's a complete invention. It's a different language. Just because he speaks with that accent doesn't mean it's a racial stereotype." The interview did not address the clone issue. A somewhat muted Jar Jar makes another appearance in Clones, but it is the dark-skinned Jango-copies that seem to have caught some audience members' attention this time around. Still, not everybody's buying it. Harry Knowles, on-line film reviewer and author of Ain't It Cool: Hollywood's Red-Headed Step-Child Speaks Out (Time Warner), says the whole Jango ethnic premise is "reading racism into something that's not there -- it's just in the minds of the viewers. It's like calling Jar Jar racist when all he is is Bullwinkle." The Jango dispute surfaced in internet chat rooms devoted to Star Wars days before the movie's release, says panelist Gary Anderson, the artistic director at Detroit's Plowshares Theatre and longtime Star Wars student and critic. If the planet name "Kamino" caught some Latinos' attention, three Arab-Americans on The News' panel seized on the fact that Jango's son calls him "Baba." "I frankly think the bounty hunter is Arab," says college counselor Imad Nouri of Royal Oak. "He's basically a terrorist," explains Nouri, "and 'baba' is Arabic for 'father.' " Such allegations have a long history in that galaxy far, far away. A number of observers noted that the 1977 original was, at least at the human level, an all-white party -- looking, in Anderson's words, "like the Ku Klux Klan's fantasy of the future." The only exception was Darth Vader's basso-profundo voice, supplied by African-American actor James Earl Jones. Which leads to all sorts of ironies, intentional or not: Darth Vader has a black man's voice when he's bad, but in Clones -- before Anakin Skywalker does the Darth-thing and defects to the Dark Side -- he's a white guy, played by Hayden Christensen. The big question lurking beneath all this ethnic deconstruction: Could any of this possibly be deliberate? For their part, The News' panelists were divided. "The plot is so superficial," says Cuello, "I don't think they could possibly have any deliberate intent about manipulating images." Like almost everybody who commented on Lucas, Anderson doubts there's anything malicious going on. "If your entire world perspective is based on 1950s TV and films, what do you expect?" he asks. "Garbage in and garbage out." For her part, Guzman was astonished that, given the Jar Jar flap, Lucas didn't scrutinize everything a little more critically this time around. "He's been criticized before," she says. "So he had a choice." It's not that she's opposed to Latin-looking baddies per se. She just wishes the occasional swarthy good guy would get as much on-screen time as the villain. "Jimmy Smits had all of two lines in the whole movie," Guzman says. "And Samuel Jackson had like five. Then there's the bad guy." For pop-culture professor Robert Thompson at Syracuse University -- who has yet to see Clones -- the issue boils down to whether Lucas really wanted to tweak Anglo fears. He's inclined to say no, attributing Lucas' occasionally confusing choices to "a certain degree of cluelessness. Look at Jar Jar Binks. The moment that guy comes on the screen, you wonder what in the world they were thinking. This isn't 1957. Didn't anybody say, 'Have you paid attention to what this guy is doing?' " The sad thing, he says, is that the Star Wars saga is also "about tolerance and dignity. But then you've got this 'camino' thing, which sounds a little creepy, and swarthy people who march in uncountable masses." Thompson calls the imagery in Star Wars a "great big Rorschach test, not just for the people who watch the movies, but for Lucas himself." With the latter, that leads him to two possibilities. "One is that this is coming out of the id of the creator without translation -- a West Coast fear of the Latino population in America." (Lucas grew in the 1950s in Modesto, Calif., the agricultural town immortalized in American Graffiti, and one visited annually by thousands of migrant workers.) The second hypothesis, he notes, is that it's all deliberate -- a way to prompt deep emotional response in audiences by probing "a phobia that's afoot in America. And that's the scarier interpretation." Or, as some argue, perhaps it's all stuff and nonsense. Knowles at aintitcool.com keeps emphasizing on the fact that Temeura Morrison, the actor who plays Jango, is Maori. When asked how audiences are supposed to know that, he says, "How can you tell? You stay for the end credits. Is his name 'Raul Julia?' No." But even if Jango was meant to be taken as a Latino, others just don't see a problem. "At least we're in the picture," says Hollywood producer Michael Gonzalez with a laugh. "I mean, what did we have before -- Lt. Torres on Star Trek? It's just a movie," he says. "It's just fun. And you're going to hit a stereotype one way or another. At least we get some screen time." In any event, Guzman doubts most Hispanics will notice, if only "because they're so used to seeing images like that of themselves -- little dialogue, always being the bad guy. It's going to take the intellectual community to call Lucas on what he's doing." Latinos are now the nation's largest minority. But box-office analyst Adam Farasati -- who argues Hollywood rarely takes minority concerns into consideration -- doesn't see any collateral damage to the film's profits. "The only real issue is that Attack of the Clones is one of most anticipated movies of all time," he says from RealSource's Los Angeles office. "And beyond that, any type of media attention -- even negative -- really just creates more hype for a film that has hype coming out its ears."

keith, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Never attribute to racism what you can attribute to stupidity.

fletrejet, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or naivete, relative or otherwise.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Overheated critic: "Surely Starship Troopers is a fascist movie?"
Verhoeven: "It is a movie about GIANT ALIEN INSECTS!! Do you SEE!?!?"

mark s, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Didnt verhoeven said teh movie was about the anglo world domination. Thats what the guy on Folha de Sao Paulo said. He also said nobody liked the movie beacuse of the anglo criticism, i too thought it was about giant alien insects

Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It may be somewhat racist but unintentional I think

mike hanle y, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Isn't that the most (Darth)insidious kind of racism though?

My own view is that scratch a hippy's surface, and you'll find a Reeganite tyrannical corporate beast itching to get out ad make as much money as possible, as cynically as possible.

Nathan Barley, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nathan, are you flat out calling Lucas racist or not?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nobody's even commented on the most offensive stereotype in this movie, so I'm not going to take any of the other blah blah blah about it seriously.

Nicole, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm only half serious about this anyway.

Nicole, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, but you've got my attention now! Which stereotype is it? There's a definite American Indian/Tusken Raider thing going on, for instance...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

uh how are the women stereotyped? (this is not a rhetorical question.)

Josh, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this is the most mentalist thread ever. I gave up reading the screed above when it started going on about how the clones all look like latinos. Can I point out that they are played by a Maori actor?

AOTC is still rub, though

DV, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aren't all these movies racist though by virtue of falling into that same ol' white male messiah cliche?

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there is only ONE person from India in all of the Star Wars films.

Therefore George Lucas IS A NAZI.

DV, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder what these guys would be saying if the clones were a faceless, indestructible WHITE horde. Something equally paranoid no doubt.

Archel, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lucas does use a fat lot of cliches about different types of people so there are a lot different things people could guess and still be right (sort of).

Nicole, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As with Episode I, I very strongly feel that people reading these messages into these films ought to step back and look at their own preconceptions and personal prejudices. From where I sit, there's a WHOLE LOT of projection going on here.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey Dan! We watched lots of Dr Who! Dr Who and THE FACE OF EVIL is the grebtest thing evah!!

Sarah, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

obi wan kenobi in Bridge over the river kwai mode: "What have i DONE?"

Alan T, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh fer crying out LOUD, Star Wars is about a bunch of people flying around IN SPACESHIPS, a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away... call me naive but this is all Star Wars has ever meant and ever will mean to me. i have never even begun to think that any of it had any racial/racist intention, in fact the whole straightforward Good Vs Evil thing has always appealed to me simply because it's (yawn blah blah) a story As Old As Time Itself and you don't HAVE to map any problems of any kind onto it at all (this is what i think about LotR as well for what it's worth). having said that i haven't seen episode II yet but i bet when i do i won't be RUINING by going "oohh i counted 14 black Jedis and 3 Asian Jedis and 67 white Jedis", i'll be going "WHUP THE ASS OF EVIL WITH YR LIGHTSABRES!!!".

like i said sorry for being naive.

katie, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I still like the Marxist reading of Return of the Jedi though, upon the destruction of the Death Star, what about all those poor innocent construction workers who were just trying to earn a living?

Matt, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

aye, the Clerks reading of Empire = hilarious. but 50% of my larffter is based on a "bloody hell people are so sad they'll read ANYTHING into it!" kind of thing.

katie, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Leela ROXOR!!!!!!!! Wait until you get to "The Robots Of Death" and "The Talons Of Weng-Chiang"!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oops, not Empire. Jedi. OR WAS IT? i am confused!

katie, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jedi, yes. But the way it's told in Clerks it's not about 'reading' a Marxist, or any other interpretation into it, is it? It's just saying - that's a shitty thing to do.

N., Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why is saying things shitty N.?

katie, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ROBOTS OF DEATH! wahey! and the more racist than Lucas Talons of Weng Chiang. Good Ol' Deep Roy.

Alan T, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I gave up reading the screed above when it started going on about how the clones all look like latinos. Can I point out that they are played by a Maori actor?

So what? Cliff Curtis, a Maori actor, has played all sorts of different races in films, for example his character in Three Kings was Iraqi.

haloist, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I shouldn't have even said I was half serious about this, because I'm am not even really 10 percent serious the stereotyping in the mew- vie. It's something very silly, it's not even a gender or racial thang.

Nicole, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In fact it is too silly for me to say what it is.

Nicole, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why is saying things shitty N.?

ELIZA!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hear in the next installment Darth Vadar is not allowed into a bar becuase he is"black".

mike hanle y, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hanle y! I was wondering where you wandered off to.

Nicole, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dang Perry, explain yourself young man!

katie, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ELIZA!

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So what? Cliff Curtis, a Maori actor, has played all sorts of different races in films, for example his character in Three Kings was Iraqi.

George Lucas is ANTI-ARAB? What a bastard.

DV, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually I was very slightly vaguely annoyed by The Phantom Menace for similar reasons. This is the complaint: Lucas presents his good characters as humans with British or American speaking patterns. His aliens, on the other hand -- who are for the most part either evil or mocked -- are assigned various non-European white ethnicities, most likely so they play as identifiably "exotic" to American and European audiences. E.g. the evil lackies in Phantom Menace, whose voices Lucas has publicly said were modeled off of late-night radio broadcasts he heard in Taiwan -- then they're fleshed out with Asian garb and Asian-stereotype looks and behaviour (they are small and formal and servile and bow a lot). Same goes for Jar Jar and the Indies or Anakin's little owner and the mid-East.

What I'm complaining about here is not really stereotyping but (a) artistic laziness, insofar as he proves himself unable to make up decent aliens that aren't basically cribbed from exaggerations of Earth-bound ethnic differences, and (b) well, reinforcing the vague perception of white people that they are the "normal" center of the universe and just happen to be surrounded by all sorts of often- stupid and often-evil weirdos.

nabisco%%, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll go with that general take -- though I gotta admit, when it came to the Trade Federation characters, I always thought they sounded more French than anything else...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Err so basically sometimes it is like "Earth-Stereotypes in Space!" and eventually you expect it to collapse into like "Aboriginal Planet!" and "Samurai Planet!" and "Zulu Planet!" and whatever else, which apart from ethnic stuff just makes the movies dumb.

nabisco%%, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Though what does that make Kamino? Walking Stick Insect Planet?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It could be argued that Anakin's little former owner is dangerously close in both appearance and accent to one of those Nazi anti-semitic cartoons ie fixated on money, obsequious and physically repulsive. Hitler might well have approved of the wings as well (housefly=pest). In fact come to think of it I recall seeing some Nazi propaganda that cut between crowds of Jews and masses of insects.

David, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Watto has been described variously as Jewish, Arabic, Italian and Greek. In this case, I'm with Dan when it comes to that being a clear case of projection.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

anyway, Watto is a sympathetic character. yeah, he is a slaver, but he isn't some kind of evil sadistic slaver. There is a nice bit in TPM where Anakin is doing some work in Watto's shop and Watto just says "ah, leave that till tomorrow. you can go home now".

and Watto does seem to be genuinely pleased to see Anakin again in AOTC.

while we are on the whole subject of race in Star Wars, it should be pointed out that all the Imperial officer characters are i) human and ii) white. I think the first part at least is deliberate - part of the Imperial thing is a Human-first ideology.

DV, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

oh fer crying out LOUD, Star Wars is about a bunch of people flying around IN SPACESHIPS, a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away... call me naive but this is all Star Wars has ever meant and ever will mean to me. i have never even begun to think that any of it had any racial/racist intention, in fact the whole straightforward Good Vs Evil thing has always appealed to me simply because it's (yawn blah blah) a story As Old As Time Itself and you don't HAVE to map any problems of any kind onto it at all (this is what i think about LotR as well for what it's worth). having said that i haven't seen episode II yet but i bet when i do i won't be RUINING by going "oohh i counted 14 black Jedis and 3 Asian Jedis and 67 white Jedis", i'll be going "WHUP THE ASS OF EVIL WITH YR LIGHTSABRES!!!".

like i said sorry for being naive.

-- katie, Monday, May 27, 2002 8:00 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

ah, old ilx

and what, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

WHO IS JAR JAR BINKS? DEUX

The Reverend, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

is there no racism in britain or are british people all just dumb

max, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

"meesa wash your windows for 2 dollah"

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://i4.tinypic.com/29o1teq.jpg

gershy, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

they airbrushed in the blackness

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

and the landscape/weather is exactly the same all over those planets (xp)

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

I've thought about it for several hours and I've come to the conclusion that I think this conversation is kind of retarded.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

Anybody else read that freaky National Review piece where Lowry argued that the Empire was really the good guys?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

"home planet of the XXXs" that is basically subordinate to humans, especially of the white variety.

The jedi council is integrated, yes.
and I do recall that nightclub in that assassin chase sequence being full of different aliens as well. though as everyone knows nightclubs in the city are nothing if not havens for scum

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

It's always with villains that sci-fi and fantasy get really bad about just creating entire evil species/races or whatever, so you have some kind of interchangeable identifiable Enemy. My question: where did all those pig-faced Richard-Nixony Jabba guards come from? They're not local to the planet, are they? Does Jabba import them? Does he hire all pig-face guards so he won't have to pay for designing new uniforms for other alien body types?

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

if george lucas came out and said "yes! it was all secret racist propaganda! hahahaha!" what would all the fanboys do?

pc user, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

ditto for all the goblins working in the bowels of cloud city! do other cloud city residents complain about those guys taking jobs away from proper citizens?

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

the uniforms are made in droid sweat shops

Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

iirc the 2 crap ones out of N-Sync appeared in that nightclub scene so Tombot's theory checks out

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

I've thought about it some more and I was wrong.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin Smith wants his schtick back

remy bean, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. star wars references/readings = sad as fuck

pc user, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:51 (eighteen years ago)

we're here to depress you

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

pc user, let's do this with the iliad instead!

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

ajax: racist against dutch football teams
patrocles: homophobia innit
briseis/chriseis: women treated as objects

Just got offed, Thursday, 27 December 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

Like dude, that part where they stranded Philoctetes on the island, just cause he got bit by a snake, but then later they come back and they're all like "oh, umm, so, we kind of need your arrows?" AWK-WARD

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

There was a very funny gag about that in an episode of Black Frasier

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

jabba seems like the type who'll just take whoever shows up and give them a job. maybe all the gamorreans were migrants who did some landscaping for him and then instead of paying them he got all "how about you stick around, free room and board, just carry these halberds"

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

"the traditional garb of your people already makes a very imposing henchman uniform -- and all the metal will really save me on cleaning costs!"

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

the job has good hours, they get breaks plus group naptime.

Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

he has the mind of an excellent businesshutt

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

is this why so many hollywood baddies are british? you can't really offend us that way.

pc user, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

^ dude has a point

xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

you know that rancor-wrangler guy just showed up one day after the carnival kicked him out (two customers and a stagehand eaten) and jabba was all "sweet who wants to build me a trapdoor"

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

i think the Gamorrean guards were given the unifom by Jabba. they probably hung out in tees and loafers on Gamor itself.

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

There was a very funny gag about that in an episode of Black Frasier

Black Frasier? I've never heard of Black Frasier. When was it on?

Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

right after Non-Semitic Seinfeld of course.

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dQWp5BtxGco

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

Afro'clock in the evening

remy bean, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am so disappointed that nabisco didn't just invent Black Frasier right here on this thread.

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

I shouldn't have tipped my hand on that one, should I

nabisco, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco: officially witty enough to script for NBC prime time

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

this page makes me feel better about the amount of thought we've put into this:

http://alexplorer.net/guitar/text/guitar/wars.html

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

Both these guys were likely made in Korea.

ok lol

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

now i'm thinking about IG-88's capabilities as a bounty hunter because it's hard to imagine it moving differently to 3P0

blueski, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

that thing couldn't even stand up by itself. terrible model

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

lol according to the wiki IG-88's head is a bar tap

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

to be fair guys the first trilogy revealed that all of the stormtroopers were brown, so at least we know the empire is integrated

max, Friday, 28 December 2007 05:16 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if that counts. all the officers are white. one new zealand maori that they xeroxed a gazillion times isn't exactly "integration." think before you post this stuff, max.

El Tomboto, Friday, 28 December 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

and hey what about james earl jones??

max, Friday, 28 December 2007 05:46 (eighteen years ago)

Temeura Morrison's accent totally saved Episode 2

blueski, Friday, 28 December 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

james earl jones != that freaky white dude in suit at end

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 28 December 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - George Lucas' "Red Tails" project is on the runway, ready for takeoff.

Anthony Hemingway, who has directed episodes of "The Wire," "CSI: NY" and "ER," will helm the long-gestating World War II film. John Ridley has written the script. Lucas will serve as executive producer on the Lucasfilm feature, which will shoot in Prague, Italy, Croatia and England.

Red Tails was the name of the first group of black airmen to serve as pilot escorts for American bombers in the war. Although their ability to fly had been questioned on racist grounds, the Red Tails' record in the sky was so impressive that they were in demand to lead bombing runs over Italy and Germany in the last year of the conflict.

Their story began under President Franklin Roosevelt, who as an experiment sent the soldiers to Tuskegee, Alabama, to train once the war started. There, they experienced rampant racism and harassment. After their exemplary performance in the war, they helped to desegregate the Army's flying crew.

Lucas has been developing the project since 1989 but put it aside to complete his second trilogy of "Star Wars" films and revive the "Indiana Jones" franchise.

velko, Thursday, 9 October 2008 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

Never attribute to racism what you can attribute to stupidity.

― fletrejet, Monday, May 27, 2002 12:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

really?

s1ocki, Thursday, 9 October 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

give him a break it was the early 00s

Annoying Display Name (blueski), Thursday, 9 October 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

yousa people ganna fly?

L.L.N.L. Cool J (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

sorry.

L.L.N.L. Cool J (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/731/731088/star-fox-command-20060906062623373.jpg

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

star fox-racist?

s1ocki, Thursday, 9 October 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)


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