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I was planning to relocate to Melbourne from Dunedin over (antipodean) summer to work (thanx to my dad, I have Aussie passport/citizenship); but in a fit of pique I might abandon next semester & hasten my departure. there seems to be a bunch of Melbournians here - could anyone hazard a guess at what rent is like for lowbudget accomodation suited to feral/dero writers/students/musos/etc? are there many opportunities for employment? cheap food available? is public transport still relatively cheap & efficient?
(nb i'm vaguely hoping that I won't end up in some out-of-the-way district with the distinction of a dubious AFL team, as much as I love, say, Geelong).

― Ess Kay, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there are two Carvaggios ( or more accuratly, one carravagio and osmething in the school of) I have wanted to see forever

― anthony, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there are caravaggios in melbourne? shit you learn something new everyday

as to melbourne, ESOJ & Toraneko and Tim F and others will be able to advise on specifics, but last time I was there, fitzroy was pretty cool, anything around that inner area, though I think rent prices have icnreased with gentrification ie St Kilda is too expensive even for the hookers. again, last time I was there, trams were great, cheap restaurants everywhere - you just have to hunt them down - go to backpackers for best ideas, plus tips on where to get work quickly.

Caravaggios, huh?

― Queen of the Mentalist Gs, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes geoff, in the art museuem, you do know those big building with all of those pictures and stuff? They still have them in the back country,no?

― anthony, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

building with art on the walls - you mean the public toilets at Queens Park? and you canadians call them art galleries? hmmm

― Queen of the Mentalist Gs, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And of course Melbourne is where I'm heading for the Australian part of my trip. FEAR!

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll try and answer some questions.

Melbourne isn't perhaps quite as dirt cheap as it used to be (then again was it ever?) but there is cheap accomodation about. If you're talking about backpackers hostels you can still find tolerable ones for less than A$20 a day as far as I know. If you're after cheap rent, then go for share housing. There's heaps and heaps about (we're in a bit of a rental slump so there's opportunities to get a bargain too)..

There's a reasonable amount of employment available doing bar or cafe work or call centre work if that's the sort of work you're after.

Cheap takeout prices are still quite good.. and public transport prices haven't changed all that much and it's relatively good value I suppose. As for efficiency, well it could be worse.. but then I've had multiple trams cancelled on me in the last couple of weeks so I'm feeling a little bitter.

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't been in Melbourne for a year, so my info may be outdated but: renting wise Fitzroy, St Kilda, Carlton, Richmond (all the cool places to live) are studpidly expensive. Someone has to die b4 you get a room in Fitzroy and in Richmond the rooms in a share house can be $110 per week. Try further out in the suburbs, as long as your on a trainline getting to work in the city is really quick. THere is lots of Cafe work (cash in hand), call centre work etc, THe Age newspaper on Saturday is great for jobs, transport is really cheap esp compared to London, food is cheap as well, check out Victoria market for great food. Most importantly were to go out: Brunswick st for: great cafes, restaurants and pubs, Victoria St for geart asian food, 00 Bar or Virus, or Bubble it;s behind Tatoo night club, in an alley way, as all good clubs are. ther corner of grevel and smith st some very cool bars. I'm feeling homestick now !

― Nalini Mackie, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A helpful rule with Melbourne renting (not that I have ever done it ha) is to go for the "not quite... but almost" aproach locationwise, as generally the expensive/chic areas have less expensive/less chic areas nearby who benefit from the reflected glory.

e.g. - you want to live in St. Kilda: go to Elsternwick (or St. Kilda East/Balaclava) instead and knock $20 a week or more off your rent.

In a similar vein: try Collingwood instead of Richmond, Northcote instead of Fitzroy. A popular choice amongst Monash Uni students is the Carnegie/Murrumbeena area, which is just outside the band of expensive inner south eastern suburbs (South Yarra, Toorak, Prahran, Malvern, Caulfield - double ha I live in South Yarra what would I know about real life!) so it's cheaper but still relatively proximate to the city/"the action" - the fact that it's also on the way to Monash doesn't hurt of course.

― Tim, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Everything's accelerated - should be flouncing over in July (factoring in the necessary proof-of-Ned, obv.)

w/regard to cafe work, has tipping become the norm in (cosmopolitan) Australia?

Also - what's crime like? safe to walk the streets at 3am, or to, ah, spend a night on the streets if accomodation doesn't work out?

Anyone have any recommendations for clubs/bars/record stores/(2nd hand) bookstores? Which universities have well-stocked libraries? Are there any computer stores/cybercafes with free internet access?

― Ess Kay, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(& thanx to everyone for advice, esp. re : suburbs)

― Ess Kay, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When you first move to Melbourne it's really hard not to live somewhere expenisive because you want to really experience things but the longer you spend here the further out you go.

I've gone Carlton > Richmond > St Kilda > Elwood > Hawthorn > West Melbourne > Fitzroy > Carnegie > Murrumbeena > Brighton > Huntingdale in that order. Sort of depended which uni I was at at the time, now I'm at Monash Clayton being close to uni is more important than being somewhere trendy.

I've got a 3 brm house + study, lounge with wood heater & aircon, dining with polished boards, modern kitchen and bathroom, huge front and back yards and double garage for $200 pw in Huntingdale, where as I used to pay $256 pw for a 2 brm, old, terrace house in Fitzroy with a tiny courtyard garden and junkies on the footpath.

The only reliable way to find a place is by using www.realestate.com.au and doing a rental search for the suburb/s you want and ordering them by price. Then go straight to the real estate agents to get the keys to inspect. This way you can put in an application before the place is advertised in The Age and over here they process the applications in the order they receive them so it pays to be first.

I don't know what the situation is in NZ, but coming here from Tas there were a few real differences:

Rent is paid monthly instead of fortnightly
Bond is one month's rent instead of one fortnight's
No fridge or washing machine is provided
You have to be able to prove your income
You have to have rental and personal references.

Anyway, good luck. It's a lovely city when it's not bloody freezing.

― toraneko, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's an even lovelier city when it is. I hate Melbourne summer, it's too bloody humid.

― electric sound of jim, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Even though I'm still majorly screwed up and poor I'm hoping to get out of NZ this year and am looking Melbourne's way...like Ess Kay I have one Tasmanian parent and holidayed there in quite a few childhood summers, as well as Queensland on one occasion (& flinders island many times!). Anyway I haven't been there since I was 13 (1989).
I'd really like some more info on Melbourne...particularly:

- is the river good for swimming in?
- any info on lesbian bars or happenings etc...
- are there many cheap one person places to live? I assume it's more like NZ where it's quite hard for people who aren't earning a fair bit to live on their own, ie flatting is the common thing.

― cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

ps. I don't have Oz citizenship as I let my Oz passport lapse and as I'm now over 25 I don't qualify to get in via my mum anymore! so do you think I will find someone to marry me. (+ help me make and keep babies would be bonus).

― cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Good lord no you wouldnt want to swim in either the Yarra or the Marybinong river :/ Not within city limits anyhoo. That said, some of the beaches out a bit - out past Aspendale say, or on the Mornington Peninsula - are sposed to still be ok for a dip in summer.

Also, cant NZers work here without visa type things, or has that changed?

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Spectra you may be barking up the wrong tree w/the lesbian bars y'know

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

true Andrew.
Please suggest some other trees.

― cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I had visions of everyone piling into the water right in the city!
You have some nice outdoor swimming pools?
Do you find snakes in the bathroom every so often???

― cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Snakes are rare in the city, and nonexistent in winter.

You can live on your own, but it depends on where you live. If you want inner city [and, let's face it, who wouldn't], you might be looking at somewhere majorly dubious like Collingwood. If you don't mind spending a bit of cash, look at Brunswick, St Kilda, South Melbourne, Richmond. They're all good areas in their own way.

There are definitely good lesbian bars but I don't know the names of any, sorry.

― Always Winter Never Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

this lesbian bar has no fire exits!

yeah there's plenny o' G&L type venues, no worries there. if you can get hold of a copy of Melbourne Star Observer or something it would probably have listings..

living by yourself is a non-option unless you are rich or are prepared to live in a shoebox. don't swim in any melbourne river lest you want to end up with all sorts of poisoning.

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hey liz my friend charlotte (who moved from akld to mlbrn early 04( has been telling me all about the g&l venues she & her flatmates have been going to, so I can sorta hook you up with info. & I'm still thinking of going - I'm moving into a cheaper flat in just over a week, so hopefully I'll be able to fite my bills off & have enough for a plane ticket &c. we shld live together!

― etc, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

god I've been going "as soon as I pay off my debts from san francisco" for two years now! & i'm in even worse shape! i can't go on, i'll go on &c&c&c&c.

― etc, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

monash law students may know my boss: mysh3l3 sh4w?

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

actually going ON HOLIDAY to aussie in feb for tassie family meetup (hur hur), but I'm gonna spend hopefully two weekends in melbourne . . . wouldn't mind catching the two hold steady shows at the end of the month, & my friend has a mid-feb birthday & would like me to DJ at her party while I'm over . . . any interesting microelectrohouse stuff coming up?

― etc, Friday, 11 November 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)

Hey Ess you gotta come FAP with us all if youre over :)

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 11 November 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

we should def. catch up for a drink!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

is your friend k.sutherland from AiH by any chance? my first day in melb was mid feb and her birthday party and i had tons of fun and met tons of melbourne kids. oh i want to go back.

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

melbourne is full of SMUG ARSEHOLES

but theyre not as bad as sydney

however it is a casino with a nice town (do you get it)

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Friday, 11 November 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

tim/trayce - yeah!

phil - no, but I sort've know KS via brun3ttes/l1l ch13f associations, haha!

esteban - what's adelaide got to crow about? (actually, I can't remember what the perception of hobart vs launceston is)

― etc, Saturday, 12 November 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

Haha PWNED.

― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 12 November 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

oh i also forgot to mention that melbourne rivals queensland in lack of taste when it comes to beer (victoria bitter more like victoria shitter lol)

and i should mention THAT ADELAIDE HAS EVERYTHING YOU COULD IMAGINE AND ITS A VERY NICE PLACE AND THE PEOPLE ARE GREAT AND YOU SHOULD REALLY VISIT AND I AM A TOURISM STUDENT BUT DONT LET THAT SWAY YOUR OPINION

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

adelaide = highest incidence of child molestation in the country - by a mile. its a town of pederasty. and paedophilia. enjoying it estaban?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

hey now we had the christmas pageant yesterday and to my knowledge no child was molested by anyone the route!!

i think it shows a lot that FATHER CHRISTMAS chooses to stay in the david jones in adelaide

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Sunday, 13 November 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Stephen King said Adelaide was the creepiest place he'd ever been to.

Adelaide is so weird that if someone tells me they're from Adelaide it sends shivers up my spine.

― molery, Sunday, 13 November 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

yeah well stephen king is the shittest "author" ever

Q-E-FUCKIN'-D

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Sunday, 13 November 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

He makes a living scaring people, Esteban. That's his job. He scares people for money, and sells millions of books. He is a professor of fear. He is a nabob of nightmares. And yet, Adelaide is too frightening even for him. Get out man. You are in danger.

― molery, Sunday, 13 November 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

I quite liked Adelaide.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 13 November 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

worst town i've ever played

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

(out of five)

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

so . . . let's see:

melbourne = wellington
sydney = auckland
adelaide = CHRISTCHURCH

& what ARE the good aussie beers?

― etc, Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

beez neez. james squire amber ale.

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

we don't have anything as good as monteiths summer ale though

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

which is back on the shelves, aah. a friend turned up with some emerson's pilsener & 1812 last night, hurrah dunedin. if any dunedinites are reading this thread - does arc still have otago strong on tap? & are pint night pints still $2?

― etc, Sunday, 13 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

will pay big $$$ if you bring me a slab of it

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 13 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

COOPERS of course you buttheads which is from ADELAIDE yo yo yo and it is the best town i have performed in (and the only one jeez louise)

oh yeah and james squires amber is fuckken ace. and if yo be a student like me then yo can get a pint of that for THREE DOLLARZ at the worldsend on hindley street in ADELAIDE

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Sunday, 13 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

I love Coopers, it tastes like it's been left in a rusty drain too long, which suits me (I assume VB is too weak for you Esteban? I don't like it much myself, Carlton Draught is obviously the local cheap piss of choice).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

is esteban buttez really from adelaide? for some reason the thought of that is hysterical

also i think coopers sparkling is lovely too. and i'd never say no to a middy of carlton draught either.

― gem (trisk), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

teehee middy. i've always liked that word

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

i think it's a much nicer name for a beer than a pot. but really the key ingredient is beer, its vessel is just a nice accessory.

― gem (trisk), Monday, 14 November 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

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Billy Connollys doing a show too but its already sold out! darn.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:49 (twenty years ago)

Trayce, I lived there for 4 years (on Carlton St., opposite the park) and know JB (it's a fucking depressing warehouse where you can't even listen!), the overpriced bookstores (not their fault), the average delis, the horrible Lygon/ Smith St. / Brunswick St. cafes, and St. Kilda. Brrr. I'm glad you like it, and I'm not trying to make you *not* like it, but I'm just glad that I'm out of there...

― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:51 (twenty years ago)

Melbourne is, as far as Australian capitals go, pretty compact.

-- edward o (edwardo...), January 12th, 2006 1:28 PM. (later)

Erm, I don't know where you get that idea from Edward. Sure, the CBD and inner suburbs are, but Melbourne's sprawl is pretty big considering the relatively (on a world scale) low population density.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:55 (twenty years ago)

urban sprawl is a major problem on the sustainability front in every major australian city. it's the national obsession with owning your own home on a 1/4 acre block.

― gem (trisk), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:57 (twenty years ago)

vitalic takes the stage at the BDO at 1:45 pm! I'm usually still in bed at that time of a sunday! I dunno if he's doing any sideshow either, hmph. as for 'lectrohouse, dunno what's coming up at end of feb (there's tiefschwarz + spektrum, but that's, er, this friday). PAGING T. FINNEY ESQ TO THREAD, THX.

― chocolate orgone accumulator (haitch), Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Paul if you lived in Carlton, then no wonder. Carlton's a soulless tourist hole, and so is St Kilda! God those are the worst examples of the lot :)

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 12 January 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

As Gem said, Sasha, I'm realy comparing to other Australian cities. By world standards, Melbourne sprawls. But it doesn't sprawl like Brisbane or Sydney, both of which are preposterous.

I used to rule out moving to Melbourne but I reckon I might move there if I get a job there next year, perhaps.

Carlton's nice to go through, once.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 12 January 2006 03:13 (twenty years ago)

I love living in jewtown so very much. I never wanna be anywhere else but balaclava, it is wonderful.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 12 January 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

my friend from here in america is in melb and going to that tiefschwarz show too. y'all should meet up!

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 12 January 2006 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Melbourne does sprawl a fair fucking bit going South-Eastwards but it certainly isn't as awful as Sydney or Brisbane. I don't think I could be lost in Melbourne Suburbia...while in Sydney, I'd be shooting flares in five seconds.

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 12 January 2006 09:17 (twenty years ago)

friday 24th feb: DJing* at my friend ch4rlotte's birthday party, yr all invited (as soon as I find out where it is)

tuesday 28th feb: prob. the d1e! d1e! d1e! gig, because I can't make their gig this weekend in auckland, haha.

*um tho the latest mongrel/sheepfuxor thread has me scared re: yr dj standards. I don't have a turntable, let alone decks! my computer's from 1995! I never get to practise! sob.

― etc, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

okay, how about CHEAP EATS? had t0m & cl4re from teh d4nce cr33ps staying recently, & they've been extolling the virtues of TACO BILLS! any other mexican places in town? any k-rad novelty places I shld check out while I'm in town?

― etc, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

the only mex place i can wholeheartedly endorse is bluecorn in st kilda

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

although maybe i should check out the taco bill near me one of these days

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Mexicali Rose, Swan Street, Richmond.

the overpriced bookstores (not their fault), the average delis, the horrible Lygon/ Smith St. / Brunswick St. cafes, and St. Kilda.

You are dead to me.

― Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)

*um tho the latest mongrel/sheepfuxor thread has me scared re: yr dj standards.

we are just hard on annie because we ~~fancy her~~ enjoy her work!

― chips rofflety (haitch), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Sydney is much more sprawled than Melbourne. I can easily navigate to any suburb in Greater Melbourne, but even if I lived here in Sydney for the rest of my life I don't think I could ever say the same about it.

In Melbourne you can more easily talk to random people in shops, cafes, bars, etc. Sydney is a bit more closed in that way. The music and art scenes in Melbourne are a lot better, too. (although I hear Brisbane has some great things happening in music these days)

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

had t0m & cl4re from teh d4nce cr33ps

They are champs. Played several times with them, including cl4re's birthday, which degenerated into an impromptu 3 band 25 minute 'Louie Louie' jam and now The Salivation Army are banned from that establishment.

Blucorn is good, but hardly CHEAP EATS. Funnily enough a mate of mine has been sadled with the job of designing a new logo for Taco Bill. Never been there, haven't even seen one around lately until I realised there's one next to Mitchell's in the CBD.

― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)

there's also one on queens pde in clifton hill

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

But urgh dudes its TACO BILL yuck.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Mexicali Rose, you fucks! You won't get better this hemisphere!

― Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:33 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

PARTY:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/goldstreet/irr_exu.jpg
tho I think it's on the same night as the lucksmiths if any of youse were gonna go to that.

& anyone feel like a FAP when I'm in town? or gonna go to any gigs?

― etc, Friday, 10 February 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

oh fuck the laneway festival better not have fucking sold out before i'm even able to buy a ticket.

― etc, Saturday, 11 February 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh good maybe I can just give you those CDs I keep meaning to mail out to you!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 11 February 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

I reckon I might try and get along to the laneway festival too. god knows if there's any tickets left.

we should def organise a FAP of some sort.

― weekly handle change (haitch), Sunday, 12 February 2006 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Another one, blimey! Two in one year, is this some kind of record? ;)

― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 12 February 2006 10:00 (twenty years ago)

what's wrong with being hospitable?? we need to turn around the poor rep that our fair city has among some of the posters to this thread!

― melbourne tourism biro (haitch), Sunday, 12 February 2006 10:05 (twenty years ago)

totes, Tim! had already emailed you, even.

& called ticketmaster - sold out, sold out. don't think there are any door sales - anyone with THE STRENGTH OF STREET KNOWLEDGE re: forums/local auction sites where people'd hawk/scalp tickets? GRRRAGH.

so, what time of week best suits everybody's drinking?

― etc, Monday, 13 February 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)

In Melbourne you can more easily talk to random people in shops, cafes, bars, etc. Sydney is a bit more closed in that way. The music and art scenes in Melbourne are a lot better, too.

so true! i was in sydney for awhile then went to melb for a weekend, but randomly met so many cool nice people that i stayed until my visa expired. the music/art/fashion scene is so good in melb. really great stores there. chiodo is one of the best menswear stores ive ever been to. and genki and fat have such great clothes. and the food. omg. and the boys. omg.

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:12 (twenty years ago)

FAT is great but god, so pricey :( Wish I had a bigger clothez budget!

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Hm, yeah, Fat is pretty expensive... But there are so many great aussie designers. if i had a girlfriend, i would spend all my money on Lover clothes for her. god, lover is so nice. karen walker, alpha 60, and the one that makes its lookbooks as golden books. i forgot the name... soooo good.

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

i want to go back to melb soooo badly. oh the meat pies too. the oysters. the boys. great parties too. ohhhhhhhhhh

http://homepage.mac.com/philtwo/PhotoAlbum14.html

my aussie holiday photos if ayone is interested. from a couple years ago though

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:34 (twenty years ago)

karen walker's a kiwi! tho taking note of yr menswear recommendations, despite predicting a vintage/opshop splurge.

― etc, Monday, 13 February 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)

anyone interested in the children of the night festival thing? might wanna see wolf & cub, shld probably see the midnight juggernauts when i'm not all tore up (tho it clashes w/that party i'm djing at), maybe dance to the modular djs - are the "cut copy djs" much cop? - anyone seen any of the other bands? the nz band playing are WORSE THAN HITLER, which doesn't give me much hope for the rest.

― etc, Friday, 17 February 2006 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I think that cut copy live was originally dan DJing before he got the band together, I reckon they'd be alright. that ajax is a pretty solid DJ too. can't really say much about the other acts though (all the kids seem to love my disco but I've never heard a note by 'em).

― doctor wu-tang clan analog brothers (haitch), Friday, 17 February 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

karen walker's a kiwi! tho taking note of yr menswear recommendations

oh yeah thats true, she is. but definitely go to chiodo. one of the best menswear labels i've ever seen, but i dont think its sold anywhere outside melbourne.

maybe dance to the modular djs - are the "cut copy djs" much cop?

yeah, dan is a really good DJ. you'll have a great time, i think

― phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 17 February 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

last time I saw My Disco I decided if they broke their guitarist's fretboard and forced him to play a 303 over those rhythms they would be 1000 times better

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 18 February 2006 01:55 (twenty years ago)

IN MELBOURNE

― etc, Monday, 20 February 2006 09:59 (twenty years ago)

got outbid on a laneway ticket in the last five seconds of an auction, grrr.

― etc, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

etc or anyone else looking to buy laneway tickets email me asap; philgruner@gmail.com

― Phil JG (Seuss 2005), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Steve I got yr phone message, sorry I was at work, give me a call anytime and we'll organise something.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:09 (twenty years ago)

still have a couple of cheap tickets to get rid of

― Phil JG (Seuss 2005), Friday, 24 February 2006 05:22 (twenty years ago)

No one I want to see, but what the hell.

I'll take 3 for $10

― S- (sgh), Friday, 24 February 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

got one off ebay already, sorry.

― etc, Friday, 24 February 2006 07:12 (twenty years ago)

7 o'
r so yrs ago l missed your show, being 8 1/2mths preggas mother wouldn't let me go. was able to attend melb show '02/06. UNBELEIVABLE!...until in the car park my b in law proceeded to have a heart attack.literally. alls well but l suppose that is your legacy to the world. keep it up please.
cheers from a brain dead dairy farmer from the western district of victoria, australia

― annette morrissey, Thursday, 2 March 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Melbourne's kind of flat and dull. The people in it smell too - they don't wash. Also, they're insane. In Sydney however everything is great. Our art and culture is better too. Oh yeah, also, the Opera House and the Beach. Brisbane, on the other hand, is full of lazy bastards; Adelaide is, well, you already know; no-one lives in Tasmania; Perth = too many ravers. Basically, everything sucks about Australia except Sydney, which rules. That's the reason we don't talk to anyone else. Why would we?

― ratty, Thursday, 2 March 2006 07:49 (twenty years ago)

also better in sydney:

http://www.interieur.gouv.fr/rubriques/b/b10_drogue/cocaine/cocaine-snif.jpg

― armalite roffle (haitch), Thursday, 2 March 2006 09:40 (twenty years ago)

youse guys have better flies i'll admit.
well, more of them at least. and bigger.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 2 March 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

People in Sydney are just more... Australian.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/12/12/mob_wideweb__470x278,0.jpg

― S- (sgh), Friday, 3 March 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Haha :)

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 3 March 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)

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