what's happened to ILM?

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It's asking me for a password?!

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

new wtf answers

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i was just going to ask the same question! i had a question on there which i desperately wanted to check the answers for. HELP HELP HELP!!!

― di, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, me too!! maybe the indie guilt thread crashed ILM!

― geeta, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah whats up

― anthony, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

its obviously whats down. answer ILM

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

c'mon, ILM, if you don't let me in i will be forced to do something boring like STUDY!!! please don't make me do it, i'm not ready.

― di, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The pasword is I LOVE FMMB

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that didn't work

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not too worried about password so much as why? Is this those 100 Reasons fans being jerks again?

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what he said

― petite verte, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe it's being moved over as we speak? TWELVE FOOT LIZZIES?

― Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Will it be open again?

― A Nairn, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When did this unfortunate event occur?

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In the last 20 minutes or so

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ye password requirer, hang yr head in shame

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh the humanity.

― di, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are passwords indie?

― bnw, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

be ashamed of yrself, ILM. now i have to go to the LIBRARY.

― di, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it'll be so much fun, thirteen people talking about missy elliot all day long! hoorah!

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

um, ron...like a AIM chat?

― jess, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe we need to post pictures of us in our undies.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, it certainly can't hurt.

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You havent seen my boxers so it just may hurt.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's kind of odd but not exactly heartbreaking?

― Nicole, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jess, we all can form our own chats as we see fit. but why mess up the whole board for the entire community? i shouldnt be getting all upset about this but i am. somebody needs a time out until they learn how to share!!!

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Huh? Im getting paranoid now.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but why mess up the whole board for the entire community?

Arguably it was messed up long ago. So to lose it now is not a big deal.

― Nicole, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think everyone's forgetting this just may be a minor glitch or "crossed wire." we'll probably wake up tomorrow and everything will be restored.

― jess, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

answer

― Jeff, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

CALM DOWN

Yes, ILM is password-protected now. No, it was not an unintentional technical error. No, I did not do it. Unfortunately I don't think it can be changed back at the moment. The password can be changed but not removed. I'm still working on it, but I think this is due to a bug in the password-changing part of the administrator's tools, which means that it can't be fixed without intervention from the Greenspun overlords. When things are fixed, I'm sure someone will post something saying so on ILE. In the meantime, read a book or something.

― Josh, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh well, maybe I'll remeber what a good nights sleep is all about.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

!!!!!!

― ethan, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You have just given a few high school students some hope for the future(Im a school teacher with a computer on my desk).

― kiwi, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why not change the part that says "ILM Moderator" to "THE PASSWORD IS XXXXXXX"

― ., Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ethan got his wish!

― Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought about that, alksdjfa;skldjf, but I'd rather fix it the right way if I could.

Really, go read a book.

― Josh, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well that seem fixed.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OK, try it now.

Unless you decided reading a book would be a good idea, that is.

― Josh, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ow my head, im so confused!

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

anyways, please someone post a little not about what just happened, im really curious.

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

er, note

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just did.

― Josh, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well could you post another one later, thanks. :-)

― Ron, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Josh needs a group hug.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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― anthony, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hi - this was nothing to do with me either, and I've no idea who did it. I've changed the administrator password to a new one so hopefully this won't happen again.

― Tom, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Josh - have you been inhaling ethan's b utt monkey mucous again?

― Queen G of the 7th Ass, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

erm it wasn't me either i was in bed

― mark s, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is a queer business.

― N., Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did anybody read any good bookZoR?

― Sarah, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I r reading Fermats Last Theorem. HA HA take THAT science.

― Sarah, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

?? sarah ??

― Alan T, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hello! At the start of the book the author lays into SCIENCE and its LIES and FALSEHOODS and bangs on about mathematical PROOF! Science is okay but maths is THE BEST! Maths maths maths.

Although if either maths OR science could tell me why my sneeze just smelt of biscuits I would give it some more respect.

― Sarah, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm reading about Victor Vroom's Expectancy Theory.

― jel --, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

science = lies about reality. maths = truth about nothing. Who goes and who stays? YOU decide!

― Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

also cultural studies = lies about nothing, art history = lies about pies

― geeta, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

philosophy of aesthetics = lies about lies about pie pies

― RickyT, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i actually quite liked that flt book, having expected to hate it. i think i only liked it cos it made me want to get on with doing some real maths, though. oh, and for the photo of john co*tes.

― toby, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm assuming this isn't the marilyn vos savant fermat's last theorem book where she says the proof is wrong because it uses ideas from "hyperbolic geometry"... which doesn't exist!!!

― dave k, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There is an interesting lecture, discussion at the ICA some time in June called Is Popular Science Pseudoscience?" which may well look in depth at some of these thorny problems. Anyone fancy it?

― Pete, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyway shouldn't the book be classified under "popular maths" instead of "popular science" eh???

Pete I would like to go but fear all you maths branes would overwhelm me so I will probably chicken out of yr x +y = N. DO YOU SEEE hahahah clever conversations.

― Sarah, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We had math thread?

― Mr Noodles, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, while ILM can be a bit rub at times, I have now decided that the indie-worshipping sadsters who are quick to bash it and the moderators are infinitely worse.

― Nicole, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the best bit about the vos savant book is that she accuses mathematicians of not being rigorous because they use induction - the problem being that she has no idea that mathematical induction actually has a technical meaning and isn't just "it works in a few cases => it works always".

i presume this is the singh book, right? there is another one, too.

― toby, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

its not just the indie sadsters that bash it though

― Ron, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I've put it down myself up to a point but to personally insult a moderator or make the kind of snide accusations some of the posters there have been making is pretty pathetic.

I just miss some of the conversations that used to go on there.

― Nicole, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe it's because I'm not on there so much.

― N., Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A mathematician, a physicist and an astronomer are driving into Scotland for the first time. They see a black sheep in a field. "Look," says the astronomer. "Scottish sheep are black."

"No," says the physicist. "All we know is that some Scottish sheep are black."

"No," says the mathematician. "We know that in Scotland there is at least one sheep, at least one side of which is black."

One of my colleagues at University College London told me that. Yes, he was a mathematician. I am glad I have the opportunity to repeat it.

― Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I love that joke.

Also any where the punchline is "A solution exists!"

― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, 3 is prime, 3 is prime, 3 is prime, 3 is prime....

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i hate that joke! best maths joke = "what's purple and commutes?"

(actually best maths joke = the one i will be dropping into my talk next week, with a punchline of "and now i'm going to drop the base")

― toby, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

physics jokes which involve hyperfine structure!

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and are also jokes about women's posteriors!

― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Integral jokes with cabins!

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

er, abelian grape??? that's awesome...

― dave k, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Quick! Integral of (b/ing) d(ing)!

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's b*log(ing), do you C?

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I refused to answer that joke because you write your logs like an engineer. Or a complex analyst.

― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd hate to analyze your complex!

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oy vey!

― Josh, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

at least one side of which is black
I R drunk and still find that funny.
I R sad.

― Mr Noodles, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

josh - surely you are not sticking up for using ln?? that is the definition of middlebrow in maths.

i forgot the log cabin joke. or even the log cabin + c joke.

― toby, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gawd, even physicists don't use ln.

― RickyT, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i always liked the one with the mathematician, engineer and physicist on the farm. i'm not going to tell the whole joke, cos it's low quality, but it has the great punchline "then they let the physicist try to solve it and s/he says "Imagine the cow is a sphere"" . see i said it was low quality. better than the one that ends with the engineer saying "3's a prime, 5's a prime, 7's a prime, 9's a prime, 11's a prime..."

i'll shut up.

― Alan T, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

D'ya wanna hear the contour integrals joke?

― RickyT, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hush yer faces or i'll start telling you how i used to want to be a structuralist but now i'm no Saussure...

― katie, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

9 isn't a prime, it's an experimental error.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ricky t: yes.

― toby, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really want to hear the start of these mathematical jokes! My brain is only so creative at coming up with jokes to fit these punchlines and they're all terrible ("I'm gonna try this restuarant's prime steak!" "Steak isn't confirmed to be prime. 3's prime, 5's prime, 7's prime, etc").

― Vinnie, Friday, 31 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i had this question on a 7th grade math exam: what did the acorn say when it grew up??

― dave k, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

geometry. ask a harder one!

― geeta, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what was the math professor's favorite dessert?

― jess, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

uh....pie?

― geeta, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

How about the one about the mathematician who was chronically constipated?

― dave q, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HE WORKED IT OUT WITH A PENCIL!!!

― dave q, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

EEK! nah must've been an engineer, q - they employ the 'brute force method' more often than the theoretical guys do

― geeta, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Q: What do you get if you take a countour integral around Western Europe?

A: Nothing, cos all the Poles are in the East.

― RickyT, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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