Did you/Will you vote in the MEP Elections?

oooh. ta for the reminder. need to do this on the way home.

Where is Hell Yes band?

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/features/2005/IraqElection_Dec/images/photos/si20051215d.jpg

Me, now.

Hell Yes band are here: http://www.myspace.com/hellyeshellyeshellyes

I was going to but I'm being forced to go to the pub instead. I had a vague plan to get up early and do it before I went to work but that didn't happen. Oh well.

Now I know who to thank when I hear BNP jackboots marching down my street.

just voted there. SNP.

Yes. We had the Roman Party on our ballot. Who the fuckus are they?

why are there so many 'No' options? is it a comment on the quantity->quality impression of the ballot options?

Just on my way to vote now!

Bit of a swizz that you only get one choice!

I'm voting green.

Yes. But god it's going to be depressing.

There are there more "No" options in the Scottish poll:

Naw
Aye, right
Away ye go

TBF most of the options on the ballot paper were 'no' to this, that or the other.

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up to two choices in oxfordshire county council elections, so i made three crosses today. i'm pooped!

is there any strategic (i.e. non-Marcello/Morbs) reason for voting for less than two?

im going to. not really sure who to vote for.

suggestions?

What are yr choices?

I'm voting green.

I was going to, but being off work yesterday and lying in my sickbed watching rolling news all day made me realise that I'd never wanted to vote Labour more in my life before

labour, conservative, and liberal democrat, and green?

probably some mentals too.

I voted green too.

there appear to be four independents on the london ballot. that'd be a bit of a piss in the dark, wouldn't it?

who the hell are "The Jury Team"?

This is weird cos MEPs are on PR so it actually does matter who I vote for? I'm going in a couple of minutes. Labour or Green I guess. Just gonna have a quick skeg at their websites and see who I hate least.

I was gonna vote green until I fouund out their science policy is somewhat suspect
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jun/01/european-elections-science-stem-cells-gm

The green party is "proposing an EU-wide ban on research involving embryonic stem cells, citing the vague possibility of "unforeseen outcomes harmful both to individuals and to society".

^^ ditto - idk if it's the hugest issue but it's not negligible, and when i read that i realised they were a bunch of fucking hippies, so no.

yep, vote cast against the BNP earlier today; the nazi fuckwits have been flyering my area so heavily over the last month it was the least I could do.

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a vote for anyone except ukip/bnp will help to keep the wankers out; with the way PR works the more votes for any parties but them, the less chance they have of getting a seat.

voted - lib dem in locals, then in a moment of wild abandon voted scargill for europe (!)

there appear to be four independents on the london ballot. that'd be a bit of a piss in the dark, wouldn't it?

... who you couldn't actually see on the ballot paper unless you folded it out completely and it wasn't immediately obvious that it needed it to be folded out. Apparently there's been complaints and now the ballot papers are being given out unfolded.

no links provided for that Green Party bit tho

who the hell are "The Jury Team"?

Jury Team - Has no policies at all. Basically an umbrella group for 59 independent candidates, which hopes to benefit from general voter disenchantment with the mainstream parties by not saying too much. Endorsed by Esther Rantzen, if that helps you decide.

wtf it was totally obvious it should be folded out xps

Greens, con: Peter Tatchell. Policies costed by a couple of stoners with an abacus. Wd feel weird voting for party with no working class members whatsoever.

Labour, con: The Cabinet. Policies costed by a guy at Cash Converters. Wd feel weird voting for party with 3 working class members.

it wasn't immediately obvious that it needed it to be folded out

i find this hard to believe

link for green party stem cell ban:
http://scienceblogs.com/sciencepunk/2009/05/meps_science_stem_cell_researc.php

Okay that stuff about stem cell research has ruled out the Greens. Christ voting Labour again I feel like a battered spouse giving them one more chance.

wot about lib dem

I missed the deadline signing up for postal voting. So you can blame me.

Can't say who I would have voted for, not the greens, I can cost their policies better than they can and eating lentils in the dark is the solution to nothing.

yeah i defaulted to lib dems with a sigh

Yes2Europe, Scargill or the SPGB.

I can't remember what this system is: ATV or STV?

The stem cell stuff is basically like their whole "we don't understand GM blah blah Frankenstein blah blah smashing little wholefood place just down the road from us everything costs 5 times what it costs in Tesco but you can really taste the difference blah blah" schtick

it wasn't immediately obvious that it needed it to be folded out

Yes but not fully, esp. if you were half awake and fucked when you got to the polling station, I think it was folded about 4 times

thinking it over, i don't want to vote for any of these fucks. i like the idea of "not having global warming" i guess so maybe i'll go green as a kind of "aspiration" thing but im fully aware they're idiots.

i hate nick clegg even more than cameron -- not more than george osborne, but it's close. that's a dealbreaker, ladies.

so the Greens are in favour of 'adult' stem cell research, just not embryonic and "subject to the precautionary principle". i don't quite follow or know enough about the difference tbh.

nah ledge I can't bring myself to ever vote Lib Dem, also altho none of the council seats in our ward are up for election this year the Lib Dem ruling body in Hull have been typical Tory-lite chancers so fuck those guys.

why do you hate nick clegg, enrique?

i hate nick clegg even more than cameron

Feeling it.

I could never vote Lib Dem, never.

yeah i defaulted to lib dems with a sigh

it's that or a ballot spoil for me. tbh i think i'll have to vote for them simply to neutralise a single bnp vote.

except, it won't will it?

Also one year I wouldn't show their local leader my polling card on the way in and she lost her shit and threw a benny at me so hahahaha

can't watch tv if cleggo is on. it's a thing. look at the guy! listen to him! blustering schoolboy twat.

The reason people won't vote Lib Dem I'm guessing is cos they are nowt but Tories wi'out their kicking boots on.

so the Greens are in favour of 'adult' stem cell research, just not embryonic and "subject to the precautionary principle". i don't quite follow or know enough about the difference tbh.

in short, their position is about the same as george bush's was - should tell you all you need to know.

The reason people won't vote Lib Dem I'm guessing is cos they are nowt but Tories wi'out their kicking boots on.

― C-Word Waddell (Noodle Vague), Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:30 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just like NEW LABOUR, right kids?

(c) When the Boat Comes In 1978

Clegg is even more useless in the Commons than Gordon Brown

I just read the green's climate change policy, it is moronic. Their energy policy is pretty viable though.

Noodle, Enrique you're not convincing me, and I don't reckon it'd be that hard to win my vote back to a gob of phlegm on the paper.

I voted LibDem in the end which I have never done before. I stood there for ages and then decided I just couldn't in all conscience vote Labour again. Even though Clegg is k-lame and I disagree with the direction their leadership has been taking them in, the LibDems at least want to be engaged with Europe which is more than can be said for almost everyone else on the fucking ballot.

I don't think I would vote LibDem in a General Election but yay for proportional representation not guilt-tripping me into voting Labour yet again.

There is something incredibly surreal about a ballot where the majority of names on it want out of the institution they're trying to get elected to.

I just read the green's climate change policy, it is moronic.

do tell

I just read the green's climate change policy, it is moronic.

Ed, which of the parties is a better alternative on this issue?

I'm not trying to persuade anyone, N1ck, just explaining my sad pathology.

if i could be bothered i'd find a transcript of a speech or interview with clegg and show why it's twattish, but there's always some howler or other.

but i mean that comment about his family having to downgrade from sainsbury's to waitrose -- it's the lack of political horse-sense as much as anything.

he strikes me as less bright than nicky campbell, but at that level of opinionated-ness, so he seems like he's commenting on "political issues" rahter than doing politics for real.

plus look at him!

Also Waitrose is totally more expensive. Has Clegg ever been in a supermarket?

I'm not trying to persuade anyone, N1ck

yeah, but i really want to be. might just write in Noodle on the form.

i saw vince cable "live" recently at a mostly-literary thing about keynes (alastair campbell was there: weird), and he seems, you know, a decent enough cove, probably more left-wing than ed balls (seriously), but not someone who could survive at the top, for some reason. i was going to say "labour should have drafted him in" last october but they're so fucked up that would never have happened. instead they go with blinkered city gents like lord myners.

Also Waitrose is totally more expensive. Has Clegg ever been in a supermarket?

― Tits Bramble (Matt DC), Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:38 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah i mistranscribed, he said downgraded from sainsbury's to waitrose. but it totally happened.

I'm sure Clegg's a buffoon but taking personalities out of it, the Lib Dem's are still totally compromised for me by the fact that local government level they represent two completely different faces depending on whether they're campaigning in a Tory or Labour controlled area. Fat chance of having a consistent view of how the country should be run when your foot soldiers can't decide what their party's about.

I voted SNP

Yeah NV I totally feel you and while I wouldn't trust them to run the country I feel I trust them more to operate sensibly within the machinery of the European Parliament if you get me.

I probably would have voted Labour at local level because, well, it's not these guys fault their party is run by opportunist cocks.

No I thought your reasoning was fair enough at an EU level Matt. Like I said, my prime consideration for not voting them is some kneejerk aversion that was probably bred into me. For example: my old man, who has threatened to vote UKIP and god knows he probably will, despises Labour since 1997 with pure hateful vengeance despite voting for them his entire life prior to that, but if I suggested "hey why not vote Lib Dem?" he would laugh his cobblers off.

Oh and due to a massive feat of bad forward planning on my part, I have to go to Eltham tonight.

I now realise what a bad idea that was. If I don't come back, please avenge my death.

I just read the green's climate change policy, it is moronic.

Ed, which of the parties is a better alternative on this issue?

― Enemy Insects (NickB), Thursday, 4 June 2009 11:36 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

None of them. It doesn't even particularly mesh well with their energy policy. It's all very well saying 80% GHG reduction cap and trade and all the rest of it but it has to be combined with a holistic, sustainable technology policy that makes it achievable. the greens basically say set the limits and let the market work it out. The greens haven't had an STPolicy statement since 2001. Incidentally there policy on biofuels under transport somewhat contradicts their policy under energy.

Set the goal and let the market decide seems to be the only policy any of them have.

Also I seriously thought the Greens were being wusses when they elected an official leader.

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