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When I was 10 I read nothing but ANDRE NORTON!! All her books begin w.the word "Star" => so talk abt her becuz she ist rad!!

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1: Victory on Janus is an allegory of the US in Vietnam!!
2: I read "Star Ranger" so often that my mum commented on it. She recognised the pic of the lizard-man (=Zacathan) on the cover. What I didn't say: I HAD A CRUSH ON HIM!! (Storyline = same as the one Guy Debord wrote the sits into...) (haha you can work that out for yrself...)
3: I first learned the word "hegemony" in a book by Alan E. Nourse. So suck on that mr so-called gramsci wiv yr NOTEBOOKS.
4: GOLLANCZ GOLLANCZ GOLLANCZ surely he was a zacathan too!!

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Read an adaptation of John Christopher's Tripod series when I was 10 or so, it was good fun. Must have stumbled across some Heinlein as well, for better or for worse. *thinks* Beyond that and some other random books I can only half-remember, I don't think I got much into sf itself until I was 12 via Asimov, for better or for worse.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was an adolescent Choose Your Own Adventure phenatik.

Andy K, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ok not all of them

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.andre-norton.org/anorton/portrait1.jpg

she sired me!!, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alexander Key rules this genre.

Dan Perry, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Star Ka'at was a TV series in New Zealand. She ought to have called the Sargasso Sea book the Stargasso Sea. I always wondered why I was so quick to embrace communism as a nine year old (when our teacher left for a private school I drew the hammer and sickle on the blackboard !?! how embarrassing) but I'm confessing it because now that you raise the subject of early sci fi reading - I read almost only sci fi, Steinbeck and Hemingway before I was 12 oh and I suppose the children's series like Famous Five etc and Oscar Wilde - well I think it was utopian science fiction that made me fall into communist rhetoric. And even though most of the sci fi I read was supposed to be about individualistic freedom in the face of totalitarian societies I somehow just picked up on the great fun of organising the 'perfect society' and thought communism yes - plus of course the emphasis on simple fairness in sci fi. I suppose by specifying what it was about sci fi that made me the only person in social studies to draw a 'pro communist' poster about russia i've sort of neglected the fact that it was just the atmosphere. Has anyone read 'What is to be done' by Cherneshevsky? I just read that.

maryann, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I read a lot of Andre Norton books when I was small. I like the way a lot of her books have multiple narrators. A particular favourite is the one set in a kind of pseudo medieaval post apocalypse future, where the main character is a mutant who looks like the Devil.

DV, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Leigh Brackett? (Co-wrote screenplay to The Big Sleep, but mostly wrote sci-fi, none of which I've read.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

star rangers begins with a spaceship crash in which at least one of the crew members (=latimar, i think) dies: i remember when i was ill aged ?10?, during one of my many reads of this book, i had a really vivid dream abt talking to latimar, about his home planet (= my home planet), and being able to see the light on this planet (kind of sharp twilight) and the plants (luminous): also it said "blood rilled down his face", and i had never come across that verb before

in victory on janus the settler who finds he's turned into a janus alien is ill and has a dream in which he plays a sort of game of chess he doesn't understand: his pieces keep turning out to be his opponent's pieces — i loved that

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i was super-picky: basically the only one i really liked was AN, and the one i REALLY liked was star rangers

they were all very moral: mean people ended up badly

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

alan e. nourse was really lame: each of his books was about a journey to the next planet in the solar system, and they were all like VOYAGE TO VENUS, MISSION TO MARS, PILOTS OF PLUTO

actually i maybe think "hegemony' was in a book by someone else, about this bright kid who invented a spacetravel system with only a torch-light battery

i liked the story that THE THING is based on: either by damon knight or in a collection he edited

mark s, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark how come you can remember everything so well? I have such a bad memory and I had a feeling of chagrin when my friend who is very clever told me that having a good memory was an index of intelligence in some apparently scientifically recognised way. Do you still have the books? It would have been even longer ago for you than it is for me. For example, I read everything in the library by Steinbeck and Hemingway before I was 13, which would be maybe forty books, and I remember absolutely nothing of any of it. Except that girls in Hemingway always had 'ash coloured' hair. And the only thing I remember from my sci fi reading was that a guy had a motorbike/pal called 'mitsi'. But I read much better stuff than that! I read Vonnegut, Dick, etc. I just remember nothing. Do you think about these books a lot or do you remember everything?

maryann, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my memory is worse since i came on ilx: i blame telecomputoid rays beaming out of the screen into my pore floppy old branes

i remember scenes, never stories, connections never systems => [xXx] could remember whole robert ludlum plots in books only read the once (but forgot eg important promises to ME so bah)

mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha hemingway had a thing for grrls with baldy shaved hedz hurrah

mark s, Sunday, 2 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The story The Thing is based on is "Who Goes There?" by John W. Campbell. He was a famous SF editor of the 40s, and rather eccentric according to Asimov - though we owe most of the Foundation trilogy to him, as Asimov got sick of it early on and only kept writing them due to Campbell's insistence. I don't remember much about it but I remember thinking it was a really great story when I read it - I was about 10 at the time.

Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I liked Nicholas Fisk - suburban sci-fi.

Andrew L, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I used to read lots of the Stainless steel rat books, Harry Harrisson wasn't it? They were pretty enjoyable.

chris, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Norton drove me nuts. I never liked or understood them. Anne McCarthy was nice for a while, tho in retrospect rilly targeted at the little-girls market. She only decsively made the "pern" series sci-fi rather than fantasy at the end.

those stainless steel rat books were great.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nicholas Fisk was fantastic, Trillions in particular.

RickyT, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

some senator here wants a national sales tax on science fiction books to fund nasa.

keith, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Stainless Steel Rat books were for kids?!

Josh, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Heinlein's juvenile stuff particularly "Citizen of the Galaxy" had a strong effect on me.

Can't remember who wrote them but what about the "LAST LEGIONARY" sequence - Galactic Legionary, Deathwing over Veynaa, Day of the Starwind and Planet of the Warlord, all starring Keill Randor, last of the elite fighting men and women of Moros... ahh, salad days.

misterjones, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

lensmen.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

Anybody got anything to add? My 11 year old is very much enjoying...er...a Red Dwarf novelization and I'm thinking he could probably do better than that?

Old Ned 1962 Vinyl Edition (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 15 June 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

Mortal Engines by Phillip Reeve

Not space opera, more post-apocalyptic, future society type stuff. And magnificent.

chap, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, yes, good one.

I think I was the same as Ned upthread, John Christopher and Asimov - also John Wyndham. But I think (like his father) he'd appreciate a few more gags.

Old Ned 1962 Vinyl Edition (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 15 June 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

Asimov "Foundation"
Bradbury "Something Wicked This Way Comes"
Arthur C Clarke "Rendezvous with Rama"

ian, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

not much in the way of gags :( maybe that terry pratchett fellow?

ian, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

I read a lot of Star Wars novels as a kid, but I don't really recommend it (aside from a few good ones like the Timothy Zahn trilogy.)

ian, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

I remember the Red Dwarf novels being actually pretty good.

chap, Monday, 15 June 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

OMG! The Mortal Engines series is ace and aces.

Ummm. There's a lot more middlegrade sci-fi than I can remember but it almost doesn't matter because the jump to YA or even lots of adult SF is so easy. But just for kicks:

HIDDEN TALENTS by David Lubar / Bad cover, good book.
HOUSE OF THE SCORPION by Nancy Farmer / Stunning.
INTERSTELLAR PIG by William Sleator / Award-winning, highly recognized.
ENCHANTRESS FROM THE STARS and THE FAR SIDE OF EVIL, by Sylvia Engdahl / ENCHANTRESS is one of only two sci-fi books ever to win the Newbury Award. Back in print now thanks to a very smart editor.
SWEETWATER by Laurence Yep / A charming old book, one my mother somehow had a copy of from before I was even born.

I'll probably think of more later. The Timothy Zahn novelization of THE LAST STARFIGHTER I remember being good entertainment, probably better than the movie.

But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Monday, 15 June 2009 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

Mission of Gravity!

unicorn poop evaluator (WmC), Monday, 15 June 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

What's that harry harrison series about big dumb lummox who gets recruited into many military adventures, gets interracial arm transplant but it's the wrong arm?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

Umm, Stainless Steel Rat? I've never read Harrison, so that's the only series I know of by him.

unicorn poop evaluator (WmC), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

found it!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b5/Billthegalacticherocover.jpg/220px-Billthegalacticherocover.jpg

"The standard ways of circumventing relativity in 1950s and 1960s science fiction were hyperspace, subspace and spacewarp. Harrison's contribution was the "Bloater Drive". This enlarges the gaps between the atoms of the ship until it spans the distance to the destination, whereupon the atoms are moved back together again, reconstituting the ship at its previous size but in the new location. An occasional side-effect is that the occupants see a planet drifting, in miniature, through the hull. ("No-no! Don't touch it!")"

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

flight of the navigator

nothing but 'neb (latebloomer), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 05:18 (sixteen years ago)

event horizon babies

s1ocki, Tuesday, 16 June 2009 05:23 (sixteen years ago)


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