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http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-06-03/film/a-conversation-with-francis-ford-coppola/

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/04/maclean%E2%80%99s-interview-francis-ford-coppola/

Q: Are the audiences acting like children, or are the studios treating them like children?

A: Well, the studios brainwashed them for 40 years with television. I think of television as it was in the ’50s, when we had some of the greatest writers in the country writing live television and there were provocative dramas, and then they just murdered that form and invented the half-hour situation comedy. Brainless television—and two generations were brought up on that.

...Cinema oughta be varied. Cinema is a very young art form and it should be encouraged to experiment and try to find new ways of telling stories. ...I make films as a hobbyist and pay for them myself, so no one has the right to tell me, “Why did you do this?” or “Why did you do that?” I do something that I feel I can learn from and that I think the audience—hopefully—might enjoy, but it’s harder and harder. It’s like if you invite everyone over to the house for dinner and they just want what they want—French fries and stuff.

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the NY Tetro ads feature a burst w/ the wine bottle.

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

And despite everything he's done and all that he says there, he still made this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PF2V1DBDL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon, that was just the worst idea to get outta debt.

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Did it actually help? (Admittedly, I assume so.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe the reason i'm in so much debt is because none of my ideas involve robin williams

I've never heard of a single one of those blogs. (Matt P), Saturday, 13 June 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

The first half hour of Tetro is really good, the last half hour is pretty dreadful. It's a high-culture spin on Rumble Fish.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 21 June 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Julia and I were talking just the other day about how good Peggy Sue Got Married is.

all art is propaganda (kenan), Sunday, 21 June 2009 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone brings up Jack, but it's "Dracula" that I can't forgive.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Ooh... fair point.

all art is propaganda (kenan), Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i like dracula! or I did when it came out.

akm, Monday, 22 June 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Dracula is soooo terrible. I knew it then, too.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 22 June 2009 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, as a narrative it sux but it's so gorgeous to look at!

dorkus malorkus (latebloomer), Monday, 22 June 2009 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

all those old-fashion in-camera f/x and such!

dorkus malorkus (latebloomer), Monday, 22 June 2009 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

and...keanu

dorkus malorkus (latebloomer), Monday, 22 June 2009 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link

...and such

dorkus malorkus (latebloomer), Monday, 22 June 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

man forgot how much of a camp classic his Dracula is

And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 July 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

also lolz was thinking of doing a poll of his worst but there's too many too choose from... is there any other major American director who fell off so unbelievably hard?

And the biggest self of self is, indeed, self (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 July 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

his contribution to the new york stories series of short films (back in 1989) was so bad that it made me want to go on a killing spree ... it made the merely-OK scorsese and woody allen short films that bookended it seem like masterpieces in comparison.

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Monday, 6 July 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I loved Tetro, even when it was terrible.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Me too, especially when it was terrible.

will live out his days in gloomy batchelorhood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't realize this had a US release

Gross
$416,591 (USA)

velko, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Not terrible, given the scope of its release.

will live out his days in gloomy batchelorhood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

ya i got it on dvd this week.. if u guys say go for it i'll watch it

sir gaga (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

is it more/less ridiculous than the youth without youth

sir gaga (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

As ridiculous, with more purpose.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Really should get around to seeing Youth Without Youth, if it was the buildup to this one.

will live out his days in gloomy batchelorhood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i could not make heads or tails of that movie

sir gaga (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Alden Ehrenreich is my new celebrity crush.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

tetro looks a bit shit. i wish older directors didnt cum in their pants at the very idea of filming digitally (or on electronic cinema as FFC likes to call it).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...
eight months pass...

Twixt

We love Francis Ford Coppola, and his warm presence made him a congenial host on the panel for Twixt, his upcoming digital drama starring Val Kilmer and Elle Fanning. However, the movie looked cheap and hammy, like an early nineties CD-ROM adventure game, while Coppola's attempts to cue up and reshuffle scenes via iPad went disastrously. It was a fun disaster, but it doesn't bode well for the director's hopes to take the movie out on a national roadshow.

i read an interview, i guess about tetro, a while back, and it was kinda really heartening & inspiring to hear him so enthusiastic about digital & the ability to make movies fairly autonomously, like some sort of megatron version of agnes varda. maybe shitty movies though.

decorate the slaughterhouse with geraniums (schlump), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

regardless, more interesting than Scorsese now

you call it trollin' i call it steamrollin' (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

3d kids movie vs interactive cd-rom val kilmer rpg

decorate the slaughterhouse with geraniums (schlump), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

third man

remy bean, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

eleanor made a movie? -http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4429194/

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 May 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

She also gets a co-director credit on the Apocalypse Now documentary for all her on-set footage.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 May 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I really gotta see Rumble Fish one of these days.

the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link

It looks like you may have misspelled Jack in one of your list entries.

Say, I Heard You Had a Quarrel With Your Best Girl (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 August 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

watched TWIXT last night. jesus, what an embarrassment. how the fuck can the guy that made The Conversation, The Godfather, The Conversation, and Rumble Fish be responsible for such an awful film? it was like a high school student film

flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

Lol meant to say Apocalypse Now instead of that second Conversation but hey, it's my favorite by him

flappy bird, Monday, 18 June 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Francis Ford Coppola Ready To Make ‘Megalopolis’ And Is Eyeing Cast https://t.co/u6t1uxdyAI pic.twitter.com/4Vjw32o8VV

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) April 4, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

this man must be stopped

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:08 (five years ago) link

really? out of all the people who could be stopped?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:10 (five years ago) link

I'm frankly surprised he's still in the game. You'd think he would've hung it up after Williams's death put the kibosh on a Jack sequel.

Hangover Ape (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

tsk tsk

I'm no superfan of his, but show some respect

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 April 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link

loooll

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

one month passes...
three months pass...
two years pass...

I love Peggy Sue Got Married, it’s such a beautiful movie.

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Sunday, 17 April 2022 06:35 (two years ago) link

IT’s Good!

Haven't seen in decades, but the scene with the grandparents made me bawl.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 18 April 2022 04:21 (two years ago) link

Nic cage’s performance in this movie is deranged but also a very good choice both things can be true

Anyone see his recut of The Cotton Club?

piscesx, Monday, 18 April 2022 11:10 (two years ago) link

Just watched Peggy Sue for the first time over the weekend & thought Cage was excruciating but miraculously the movie was still good

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 18 April 2022 12:25 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Sam Wasson has a new book out; a friend says it's good, ordered it today.

https://www.harpercollins.com/cdn/shop/products/9780063037847.jpg?v=1701866614&width=350

clemenza, Saturday, 9 December 2023 19:55 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

This comes up in the Wasson book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxuSXOukvBg

That's just before he announces Cimino as the winner of Best Director, a cause for some concern because Apocalypse Now was still in post-production.

I guess it's prophetic, but he's not saying anything that lots of writers had been saying long before that. He forgot to tell us how bad most of those technically wonderful films would be. Supposedly he had unwittingly ingested something drug-laced beforehand courtesy Bill Graham. (Cookies or something...book's out in the car right now.) Ali McGraw very much wants to be elsewhere.

clemenza, Monday, 22 January 2024 00:27 (three months ago) link

("lots of writers had been saying" = hadn't)

clemenza, Monday, 22 January 2024 00:38 (three months ago) link

1980 or '81, and lots of famous people are dropping in to look at the new Zoetrope compound.

Twenty-four-year-old Michael Lehmann had the honor of giving the War Room tour to Robert Wise, esteemed director of West Side Story and The Sound of Music.

"I don't know how knowledgeable you are about the details of the editorial process..." Lehmann offered to Wise.

"I edited Citizen Kane."

"Oh. Okay, good."

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link

At that point, hopes for the studio were still high before Coppola made 3D Stake From the Heart.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 17:45 (three months ago) link

I still haven't seen One from the Heart. I'm just running out the clock, hoping I die before I talk myself into it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 17:49 (three months ago) link

I saw One From the Heart in 35mm during its 2002 re-release. It looked stunning, but I hate that Coppola cut material out of it, and this new cut is even shorter. There are at least 4 versions of it now.

The Wasson book isn’t nearly as good as his Bob Fosse bio or book on Chinatown. Too fawning and doesn’t really have nearly enough insights into what the fuck happened with Coppola/Wenders on Hammett. Some interesting material on unmade projects that were being developed by Zoetrope pre-THX-1138 and post-Apocalypse Now, though. The material on Carroll Ballard, who is a longtime favourite of mine, was interesting as well

beamish13, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:13 (three months ago) link

The Wasson book isn’t nearly as good as his Bob Fosse bio or book on Chinatown.

Didn't read the Fosse book, but agree completely with the second half of that. It's been a real slog for me, with some point of interest now and again.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 20:32 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

Looks like Megalopolis got screened the other week:

The project, which Coppola first began writing in 1983, cost a reported $120 million to make — funded in part by the sale of a significant portion of his wine empire (the 2021 deal was reportedly worth over $500 million). Clocking in at two hours and 15 minutes, the film follows the rebuilding of a metropolis after its accidental destruction, with two competing visions — one from an idealist architect (Adam Driver), the other from its pragmatist mayor (Giancarlo Esposito) — clashing in the process. References to ancient Rome — including Caesar haircuts on the men — abound.

Coppola, 84, has said no decisions will be made regarding a festival bow until a distribution plan is put in place. But while there was no shortage of curious suitors there — in addition to Rothman and Sarandos, Warner Bros.’ Pam Abdy, Disney live-action boss David Greenbaum, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos and Paramount’s Marc Weinstock were all spotted — multiple sources inside the screening tell The Hollywood Reporter that Megalopolis will face a steep uphill battle to find a distribution partner. Says one distributor: “There is just no way to position this movie.”

“Everyone is rooting for Francis and feels nostalgic,” adds another attendee. “But then there is the business side of things.”

A third attendee noted “a conspicuous silence at the end of it,” but stopped short of writing off the film as a failed exercise. “Does it wobble, wander, go all over the place? Yes. But it’s really imaginative and does say something about our time. I think it’s going to be a small, specialized label [that picks it up].”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:36 (one month ago) link

(More at the link, including what sounds like a, how to put it, questionable scene involving Jon Voight.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:38 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Trying to make sense of the Megalopolis descriptions in Sam Wasson's book--which starts present-day--was a real chore. That clip is sort of interesting, I guess, but hard to gauge much unless characters are interacting--Coppola's masterpieces in the '70s had great performances top to bottom

clemenza, Saturday, 4 May 2024 22:04 (two weeks ago) link

Reading reports on Twitter, this sounds terrible

default damager (lukas), Thursday, 16 May 2024 20:41 (two days ago) link

Midnight Cowboy reunion! (True: I momentarily wondered if Voight and Hoffman had ever done a film together and googled it.)

clemenza, Thursday, 16 May 2024 21:01 (two days ago) link

good screen slate podcast with vadim rizov sharing impressionss: https://www.screenslate.com/articles/episode-38-megalopolis-vadim-rizov

devvvine, Thursday, 16 May 2024 21:06 (two days ago) link

as someone who thought the teaser looked awful, i'm glad to have been right. though the people who have been annoying about this film will continue to be so.

devvvine, Thursday, 16 May 2024 21:07 (two days ago) link

i'm more interested in interesting failures than boring ones so this sounds like it might be along those lines.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 May 2024 22:46 (two days ago) link

Two of my favorite film writers.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 May 2024 23:42 (two days ago) link

surprising no one i predict i will love this

ivy., Friday, 17 May 2024 00:49 (yesterday) link

I've read some really scathing reviews, but it does sound interesting

Dan S, Friday, 17 May 2024 00:50 (yesterday) link

Those reviews are a big red flag for me. "Fever dream" turns up in both; "...the beautiful, woozy, unforgettable, financially dead-on-arrival One From the Heart." For some people, I guess; I thought most of it was embarrassing.

clemenza, Friday, 17 May 2024 01:06 (yesterday) link

looks cool to me. though I liked Twixt so am naturally excited to see what the director can do with a bigger budget.

willips brighton the quorners (geoffreyess), Friday, 17 May 2024 01:07 (yesterday) link


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