how many of your friends/'aquaintances' are of races/cultures other than your own?

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and has it changed as youve gotten older?

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a few - i dabble 23
several - im just so interested in other cultures 16
a lot - i mix in a reasonably mixed crowd 15
a ton - my social circle is like the UN 9
none - im a purist 8


titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

I kind of have to vote "a few" simply because they're aren't many other races / cultures where I live.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

"a ton", unsurprising since just my blood relatives would have me voting "a lot"

grocery groin (snoball), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

im just so interested in other cultures

(obv just cos you have a wide range of friends doesnt mean that youre on some anthropological expedition through life)

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

(just saying that cos i didnt like the tone)

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

Somewhere between "several" (though ditto on not liking the tone on that) and "a lot" - thing is, as a perpetual immigrant, I tend to be drawn to people who have had similar experiences to me - i.e. other immigrants. Who tend to be, erm... mixed.

I really thought, after spending my formative years being an alien Brit in the States, that I would move back to the UK, and suddenly come "home." Boy, was I in for a surprise and a second lot of culture shock all over again. So many of my closest friends now tend to be people who are also used to straddling two or more cultures, perpetual emigrants like myself, people of mixed race, people who have lived for long periods in cultures that are not "their own."

Which is, in and of itself, a desire to be around "mine own kind" in a weird mixed-up way.

Mad Props for Aeroplane (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:25 (fifteen years ago)

all but a few

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

I'm somewhere between 'a lot' and 'a ton', probably because one way or another, most of my friends are part of one diaspora or another.

In other words, welcome to London. Minneapolis, where I grew up (and my suburb in particular) is amongst the most theoretically liberal places in America so I gravitate towards people with those values.

the haircare bunch (suzy), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:35 (fifteen years ago)

I voted 'several' - I live in Toronto so just by going to work I'd say about 50% of the people in my building are of races/cultures other than my own.

I was unsure how to define 'cultures' though - does my white, Canadian-born, english-speaking friend count because her father is Slovenian and her mother German? Do I have to count literally everyone I know, even if they're white and english-speaking like me, because I'm the only expat kiwi I know here? If so, I probably should have photed 'a ton'.

franny glass, Sunday, 19 July 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

i have a black friend, and i used to have an egyptian friend

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

until I moved to London, probably none at all. now I'd say a few and more and more since joining BBC.

Local Garda, Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

i haven't inspected the genetic background of all my friends yet though, obv if I find out more info about some I know already I can treat them differently as a result.

Local Garda, Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

do it for science Local G

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

I bet many of them think they can "pull the wool over my eyes" regarding distant Polish relatives, but I will leave no stone unturned in exposing these charlatans.

Local Garda, Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

"Mr. White, is it? You don't say. Or is it Mr. Witzcieczynski?"

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago)

"Will we have a drink? Perhaps a VODKA would suit you better old 'friend'"

Local Garda, Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

maybe i should have made this races instead of throwing in cultures aswell.

"i haven't inspected the genetic background of all my friends yet though, obv if I find out more info about some I know already I can treat them differently as a result."

hopefully you say things like 'youre _____?! i hadnt noticed!'

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

Races / cultures, whatever. Race may matter now but some day it will just mean skin color. It's kind of silly. People are like M & Ms to me, they all have different colors. My parents never told me I was "white", I had no idea until I had to fill out some government form.

Department of Energy Department (u s steel), Sunday, 19 July 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

"what is your bloodline? DON'T LIE TO ME."

I for one welcome this new Nazi ILX (Local Garda), Sunday, 19 July 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

all of them because i'm the only latino i know, my friends are all gueros.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Sunday, 19 July 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago)

but yeah i don't hang with any black or asian people, mainly because there are almost none in the area I come from.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Sunday, 19 July 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

"Races / cultures, whatever. Race may matter now but some day it will just mean skin color. It's kind of silly. People are like M & Ms to me, they all have different colors. My parents never told me I was "white", I had no idea until I had to fill out some government form."

lol.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

i only speak to albanians. all other cultures are inferior.

velko, Sunday, 19 July 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

pretty mixed here...i got my bangladeshis, my punjabis, my afro-caribbeans, my regular african peeps, japanese and chinese here and there, loads of iranians, jews of all kinds, mexicans, white folks from all backgrounds...

gonna be a long hot summer for the MS Word paperclip (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

most of my friends are white, but i'm not white. so what do i put down as my answer?

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

^^ haha yeah, on the "culture" front my answer was going to be "everyone I'm not related to"

nabisco, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

"what do i put down as my answer?"

this isnt a poll only for white people. 'other' can be white too.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

sure, i could put down a ton, but it's not like my social circle is the UN

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

i mean to say my social circle isn't particularly mixed but it doesn't match my culture either

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

haha "my social circle is the EU"

nabisco, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

i was almost going to make that joke

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

I guess the nearest people for me are just a spread of mostly white with lots and lots of south- and east-Asian and but not a ton of black or Latino -- i.e., looks kinda like grad school? And then if you spread it out to the sort of neighborhood friends you talk to often but don't, like, make plans with, it'd add in a lot more black Americans and Dominicans and Puerto Ricans (and wider age range and class range and so on) ... which feels pretty typical, I guess, for where I'm sitting? It's possible I know more children of immigrants in general, and maybe south-Asian ones in particular, than I would if I were white, but it's hard to say.

nabisco, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

"looks kinda like grad school" is meant to mean "looks kinda like the grad school I went to"

nabisco, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

where I made friends, honest

nabisco, Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

i used to have mostly white friends all through primary/junior/secondary school til around university time where i still had a small group of casual white friends but since then its become pretty much just non white: asians (south and east) and black (african and carribean).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago)

Most of the people I went to high school with were white (~85%), but that changed once I went to college and even more when I started going to my Eastern Orthodox church (we have Russians, Iraqis, Mexicans, Ethiopians, Turkmenis, Kyrgyz, etc.) Makes for an interesting potluck.

the chicano incarnation of benito juarez (primalfixations), Sunday, 19 July 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

all my friends are gungans ~_~

born s1ocki (cankles), Sunday, 19 July 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

There are two black people and one Asian on my cellphone. The rest are white.

Seriously, I feel diverse when I meet another Catholic.

http://i34.tinypic.com/t0sw0h.gif (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 19 July 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

Hello PP, I'm an ex-catholic. *waves* I am ATHEIST.

My reflex was "Maybe one? My cousin who's mixed." But then I remembered that my best friend's Russian/Israeli/Jewish. Then I realized I know quite a few Japanese people. So I guess quite a few. Shit, I never thought/think about it really.

Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Sunday, 19 July 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

Oh and others but I am too tired to really give it a thought. I guess I know more than I figured at first.

Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Sunday, 19 July 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago)

My answer is a lot...

(bracket name) (jel --), Sunday, 19 July 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

few

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

I kind of have to vote "a few" simply because they're aren't many other races / cultures where I live.

^ Likewise, though for a while just about the only person I knew in town was the half-black half-Asian barman at a local wine cellar which only had room for about 20 people at once; according to the census there are like 20 non-whites out of a population of 7000 (English village life...), but they all seemed to gravitate to this one bar and hanging out with this guy.

Bar's shut now, and he and most of the people I got talking to there have left town. Oh well.

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 19 July 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

I guess a lot, in that I'm a boring old Anglo-Saxon and about half of my friends are first-generation kids of various Mediterannean types (Greek, Maltese, Italian, etc). I'm really envious of one friend, whose Sweden-born and raised, but now Australian, and whose father is Aghan and whose mother is Polish. That is waaay more interesting than being a 5th-generation white Australian.

Great Expectorations (James Morrison), Monday, 20 July 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah same here, being in Melbourne its hard *not* to have mostly friends of various cultures or races: I have friends who are 1st or second gen chinese, malay, koori, mediterranean (greek/italian/maltese), Israeli jewish, Torres Strait/Saamoan islander... all sorts.

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Monday, 20 July 2009 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

voted 'several' - I live in near Toronto so just by going to work I'd say about 50% of the people in my building are of races/cultures other than my own.

― franny glass

Stop wishing death on people just for the cool thread titles (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 20 July 2009 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

Oh yes. I took a bus in Antwerp and I think I was the only caucasian (spelling?) on it.

Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Monday, 20 July 2009 12:31 (fifteen years ago)

(just saying that cos i didnt like the tone)

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:21 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This.

Mark G, Monday, 20 July 2009 12:32 (fifteen years ago)

i guess i would like a more diverse pool of friends, but that doesn't seem particularly meaningful if you're all in the same socio-cultural position ("class" etc.) anyway and it seems difficult to be friends with people outside of that context really.

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 20 July 2009 12:36 (fifteen years ago)

"This"

the little sub headings for the poll were obv not to be taken seriously.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 20 July 2009 12:50 (fifteen years ago)

xpost I'll take one Polish, two Japanese, four African-Americans.

(Just kidding!)

Unregistered Googler (stevienixed), Monday, 20 July 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

This is so anthropocentric...

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Monday, 20 July 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

i have a black friend, and i used to have an egyptian friend

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:00 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i forgot, i also have an asian friend, probably chinese

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 20 July 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

i guess i would like a more diverse pool of friends, but that doesn't seem particularly meaningful if you're all in the same socio-cultural position ("class" etc.) anyway and it seems difficult to be friends with people outside of that context really.

Sort of referenced this earlier, but one of the things I like about New York, versus my experience of living in Chicago, is that the social culture makes it a lot more likely that you'll have real interaction with everyone around your neighborhood, of all sorts -- like actually knowing the old people on the block or the working-class guys you talk to at the bar or whoever. Which is a good slight counterweight to the fact that, yes, friend-groups do normally tend to center one one kind of "socio-cultural position," class and age and background and all.

nabisco, Monday, 20 July 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

Ha by NY social culture do you simply mean unavoidable propinquity?

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Monday, 20 July 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Does being a gentile among Jews count? b/c, if so, that would skew this from "a lot" to "a ton" for me by a commanding margin.

juggalist (Pillbox), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago)

not just propinquity, Abbs, but a general culture where, compared to some other cities, neighborhood streets and establishments can be treated as social spaces where it's non-strange for anyone and everyone to talk your ear off about whatever (which is maybe a function of density/propinquity but still)

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, I once lived for a year in a neighborhood in Chicago surrounded by loads of people of my approximate age and background and didn't really know any of them, because we had decent apartments and hung out in them with our own particular friends; whereas where I am now I wind up knowing people from the street, from different businesses, from the park, all the way down to an eight-year-old who'll follow me around telling me stuff about sharks

nabisco, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Hah nabs, this town is like that and I have no idea why! (OTOH I have been a magnet for random talkers my whole life.)

bad-boy (sic) cartographer (actually a girl) (called) (not named) (Abbott), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

A lot of them don't speak English, either; they just talk away happily anyway.

bad-boy (sic) cartographer (actually a girl) (called) (not named) (Abbott), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago)

Almost none of my best friends are both white + American, but a lot of my expanded social group is. I have a lot of foreigner friends from living abroad and a lot of white-washed minority friends from living in the Bay Area. I guess 'white-washed' is a sorta pejorative term, but whatever the non-pejorative term for that is, pretend I said it. One of my bffs is a buff, lacrosse playing, jesus-loving marine officer who knows more about football than anyone I've ever met - he happens to be 2nd generation Asian and speaks (broken) Chinese w/ his parents, but overall, he's more typically American than most people I know.

iatee, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

titchyschneiderMk2

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago)

i used to have mostly white friends all through primary/junior/secondary school til around university time where i still had a small group of casual white friends but since then its become pretty much just non white: asians (south and east) and black (african and carribean).

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:42 PM (3 years ago)

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago)

casual white friends

Swole Miss (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago)


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