Tyson Vs Lewis

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Britian vs The Bronx! Tyson is walking out in 12 minutes! And LL Cool J is doing commentary right now!

― chaki, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tyson is very relaxed before this fight.. he was talking about how watching pigeons relaxes him before fights. I dont know if anything can top Stuttering John vs Cabby earier in the week though.

― chaki, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lewis' song on his walkout is "Crazy Baldheads" by Bob Marley. Tyson used that "D! M! X! WHAT U REALLY WAAAANNNT" song.

― chaki, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it was a mess. tyson was lewis' plaything. knocked him out in the 9th.

― chaki, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hail Britannia and all.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hail civilized man.

― J Blount, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As David Lord, the ABC US correspondent who covered the fight said as he signed off his report of the fight: HALLELUJAH!!!

Hopefully this result will send the mad neanderthal Brother Tyson back under the rock from whence he came for all time.

I am one of those mixed-up individuals who couldn't give a toss about boxing but did have a preference for Tyson to get his right ear rammed through his left earhole.

One for the human race Lennox Lewis....from now on you're the Mortein Man, you eradicated the world's biggest pest.

― BJ, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

when will d*n king fall and how? i can easily see why ppl root for tyson, and in a complicated way feel a bit sorry for him (my friend p said "today is when we all first realised MT will die an alcoholic in the gutter" — and she wanted him to win btw), but i cannot see why ppl are not more leery of king: "he is a powerful successful black man" yes, but surely he makes all cartoon-villain rock-band managers (for example) look like selfless angels => what has HE ever done for tyson (that's been good for tyson)?

― mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why do I do it? It was 4.30am by the time it finally came on. I am now asleep at my keyboard.

Best moment: When the Sky commentator said of Lennox's (quite unremarkable) walk from his dressing room "There he is, dancing to the best of some imaginary reggae song playing in his head"

Worst moment: Tyson grovelling for a rematch afterwards.

― N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"best of" or "beat of"? ("best of" = the gratest boxing commentary EVAH!!)

― mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sadly, I did indeed mean to type 'beat'.

― N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it would have been better had tyson won, then there would have been more pressure for him to crack in public. well, maybe that is wrong, now that he will be shoved aside he will need to do something to get back into the spotlight. i was invited to go watch the fight but the hockey game went on for five hours, triple overtime, the players looked ready to collapse on the ice, igor larionov- woo hoo!

― keith, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he will need to do something to get back into the spotlight.

But what? There's nowhere left for him to go in boxing is there? Are you thinking of a pop career?

― N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

[actually, the suggestion of one of my friends last night was fighting kangaroos. this might not put him back in the spotlight but as a sideshow act he might be able to pay the IRS off at 50 dollars a week or something]

― N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I still remember the joy I felt when Buster Poindexter KO'd Tyson . I saw TYson ONce in Crossgates in ALbany, and ONce in NY. He signed autographs. But he's a dick.

― mike hanle y, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

David Renwick writes in 'King of the World', his excellent bk abt Ali, that "The history of fighters is the history of men who end up damaged"; he goes on to note that former champion Tony Galento found himself "wrestling an octopus and boxing a kangaroo to make a living".

Renwick also hammers home the point that the media, and by extension the public, saw the '62 Floyd Patterson/Sonny Liston as a stereotypical battle between the 'good negro' and the 'bad negro'; the Lewis/Tyson fight seems to have been sold on the same racist opposition, with Tyson, of course, stuck in the Liston role. And as Nick Tosches' makes clear in his brilliant bk 'Night Train', Liston's post-boxing life was horrible and messy and very very sad.

Don King was a disaster for Tyson; he was never the same fighter after King took charge.

― Andrew L, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i read an extract from renwick's book in the new yorker ages ago: i can't recall if he talks much abt the way ali HIMSELF turned his foreman fight into a false-vs-true "black man" deal, like ali's opponent must be a sort of traitor to the race, which i always tht was v.hard on foreman, whose main "political" fault was not being as articulate or pretty as ali ( i mean, i like ali — and of course now he's parkinsonian like my dad so my heart totally goes out to him — but i always thought that specific pre-game device was out of order)

(of course foreman totally redeems himself now that he is the GRILL SHILLA!!)

― mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

everyone figured Liston threw the fight (i.e. Ali's "phantom punch") because he'd been getting death threats to wit: if you defeat the just recently-converted-to-Islam Ali it's an insult to Malcolm X and black nationalism everywhere (or something)

fleeting impressions: 1) LL walked out to "chase those crazy baldheads out of to-own" hahaha 2) Tyson's emotions are so close to the surface this is why he's so compelling. he can't pull his punches, physically or mentally. it's all roiling in his face, his anger and confusion. post-fight jim rose moment: "i want to thank lennox lewis, he is an incomparable fighter, i want to take my hand off to him. and the payday is great, i appreciate that." he was SO humble. he wiped sweat off of lewis with his glove, so tenderly and affectionately. it's like the ring is where he can really FEEL a connection. 3) lewis has brought boxing patter to a whole new level with the carib inflection: "no guy test dis man. i'm the pugilist specialist." awesome!! 4) (the fight itself was very hard to watch, and sad)

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i HOPE tyson GETS the SHIT beat OUT of HIM

― strange_girl243, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

by a female while he is taking a nice little nap

― strange_girl243, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The 'Rumble in the Jungle' sort've falls outside the scope of Renwick's bk, but he does write "One of the less entertaining components of the Ali act was the way he tried to 'outblack' someone like [Joe] Frazier, call him an Uncle Tom, an 'honorary white', when in fact Frazier had grown up dirt poor in South Carolina. If Ali was joking, Frazier never found it funny."

Ali's relatively recent (last ten years) canonisation ignores/smoothes away the difficult/awkward aspects of his personality - there was a gd piece in the Guardian not too long ago, pointing out that Ali still likes to tell anti-semitic gags at public functions, etc.

― Andrew L, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

revenge = dish best served cold => foreman in paper today: "this proves lewis is greater than ali"

(i maybe got frazier and foreman confused in my post upthread: unless ali did this to foreman as WELL as frazier)

― mark s, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, you were right - Foreman AND Frazier both got dissed in this way by Ali.

― Andrew L, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He called them Uncle Toms. The first Ali-Frazier fight was seen by the public at large as the counterculture (Ali) vs. the establishment (Frazier) by proxy.

― J Blount, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I WANT TO TAKE MY HAND OFF TO HIM??????!!!

― Ally, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know, like it was hollow or something. Maybe he keeps stuff in there? like little congratulatory certificates. "The bearer of this document is certified to have officially Kicked Mike Tyson's Ass"

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ally and Tracer have almost made me shoot pasta salad out of my nose.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now how is pasta supposed to fit through your nose? Let's be reasonable here, Dan. Maybe you could fit it inside Mike's bionic removable hand.

― Ally, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You'd think that someone with a bionic removable hand could win a boxing match. I guess he shouldn't have used Inspector Gadget as his training inspiration for this fight.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

go go Gadget teeth!

― Ally, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now boxing makes sense to me.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tyson needed a frickin helicopter to shoot out of his head and carry him away from Lewis's jab, it was a mess. But I assume oversize mechanical fedoras are not allowed in the ring.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or springy comedy legs.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe Tyson stoped fighting because he assumed his little blonde- haired niece was going to bail him out like she always did.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe that's one crack too many.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

THERE CAN NEVER BE TOO MANY "INSPECTOR GADGET" CRACKS.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Where was the extendo-glove when Tyson needed it most???? It must have gotten stuck. Yes, it all comes together now: Tyson wanted to take his hand off but could not, so Lewis's reach became the deciding factor.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe that wasn't Tyson at all, but Brain wearing a Tyson wig.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now you're just being silly, Dan. First of all a "Tyson wig", to look anything like Iron Mike, would involve a full-scale replica of the top 3/4 of Mike Tyson strapped to the poor dog's head. Regardless of whether or not this would fool anyone (which I think it would not) it would be topheavy, bob around listlessly, and fall down after a few rounds. Oh wait a minute.

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now I'm imagining Mike Tyson with spring legs. This makes me happy.

― Ally C, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that like a spring roll?

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tyson used that "D! M! X! WHAT U REALLY WAAAANNNT" song.

Hahaha you mean "Sun Jammer is My Favorite Pokemon Trainer?"

(Also NB you guys totally underestimate Brain's power-of-disguise: did he ever actually look like anything he fooled people into thinking he was?)

― nabisco%%, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But Nitsuh, that's the point; Brain always fooled people with his disguises and got seriously jacked because of his success.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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