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I can't find a proper job and my perpetual search is becoming more and more half-hearted and depressing. I am beginning to feel that I will be stuck in the bloody pub forever. I have a funeral to go to tomorrow. Rejection letters are building up nicely. My girlfriend suffers from depression. I have huge student debts and a near-useless degree (serves me right for choosing a subject I was interested in rather than one with a career-path at the end of it). My relationship is crap. I haven't played football in weeks because of the bloody Queen and I wont get to play tomorrow because of the wake. I'm still living at my fucking parents' house and there isn't a decent pub in the town where I live anymore. No decent bands come to Exeter and so I'm having to spend loads of money which I haven't got in order to go and see The Falming Lips in London next month. I can't even get a job in a record shop because I'm over-qualified. My friends are all (seemingly) more successful than I am. Etcetera etcetera.

Precisely how miserable should I be?

― Nick Southall, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

when i left uni i couldn't get a job either, and i had a crap degree (same mistake, did a degree that seemed interesting rather than one that is actually 'worth' anything, aargh!), and was stuck in bradford. everything i applied for, didn't even get interviews, things weren't looking good, but i got an admin job eventually, which somehow metamorphosized into a cisco network job. i got lucky. i don't know if thats what you need to hear exactly, but there are breaks out there.

do you want to leave Exeter? and, if you do, what will happen to your relationship?

― gareth, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i do think we are shunting too many people into higher education, unrealistic expectations at the end for the bulk, there is a huge amount of competition for any scrap of a graduate job. if i was 18 again i don't think i would go to university,

― gareth, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you could be me-leaching off a genorus partner whil going higher and higher in a useless degree.

― anthony, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well you all probably know by now that I agree with Gareth...

― Sarah, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No decent bands come to Exeter

Don't ruin it for me! I misspent my youth watching fourth-rate indie chancers at the Cavern. Getting drunk with nobody's when you're a misfit teenager=classic. Ah, the 60ft Dolls..

― Matt, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or, go back to school and stay there until you die or contract a degree which is not-so-useless.

― Dan I., Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But Dan that's the type of thing that ends up to people being even more miserable - oh you're stuck in a rut or something => back to university! That's not the way to go and it will make you miserable and you will get nothing out of it unless you really want to do it - it takes a lot of thought and planning and just using it as a catch all answer doesn't work. OK, it didn't work for ME. It may work out for some people but still. Meh.

― Sarah, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If I had the money I would stay at university forever, but don't listen to me I have no motivation.

― jel --, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i kind of agree with Dan I AND Sarah on this one. going back to Uni isn't something one can do at the drop of a hat; however if you're worried about job prospects then i strongly advise looking into some kind of education, a part time course, night school (?) in something that looks to be a little more profitable. also, since this will probably cost money, is it possible to look into deferring your student loans? as i've got a debt that's maturing "nicely" (about 3 years now) but don't have to pay it off (yet) as i don't earn enough. contact the loans company and see what they say.

am at a loss for what to say about your depressed gf/funeral going though. i wish i could tell you both to give each other a huge hug and make everything better, but as we all know life don't work like that... you could give it a try though.

― katie, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm writing my personal statement for UCAS this afternoon, so I can't really advise about university...

― DG, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh and work wise - get a shit job while you are looking for the good one. It'll give you money, it'll motivate you more for job hunting, provide alternate social outlet and possibly crystalise much better the things you do want to do.

And watch good TV.

― Pete, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm writing my personal statement for UCAS this afternoon, so I can't really advise about university...

DG, good luck on that....and now I'll have an expert to ask, when I'm ready to do it myself.

But in all seriousness: Nick, I'm sorry for your losses. Currently, I'm unemployed too, so I know how that feels. I know it seems like total crap, but this state won't last forever. The fact that your mates have work means that there is work to be had.

Because of my mum's current illness, I can't yet move to London, so I can empathise with your frustration. However, try to see a bright spot in all that: 1) at least, you and your girlfriend have each other (which is more than many others have); 2) it may suck to still be with the folks, but tis a roof over your head. I doubt they are charging you weekly rent; 3) Thought of listing the skills you do have, on paper? Perhaps your comp skills will be useful to a neighbour or something; 4) Footie will always be playable; 5) Nowt is wrong with being overqualified---it just means you're smart. If you know a second language, why not look for jobs outside of the UK?

Just a few ideas, of course...:>

― Nichole Graham, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Otherwise okay?

― Mazchops, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aye Mazchops, otherwise OK.

And I already have the shitty job to tide me over, I've had it for years!

― Nick Southall, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"DG, good luck on that....and now I'll have an expert to ask, when I'm ready to do it myself."

Heh, UCAS forms aren't as scary as they look.

― DG, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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