Director John Hughes, RIP

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Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

omg RIP

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

RIP

grocery groin (snoball), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Okay. Seriously. FUCK 2009. :-( I first didn't want to believe it was John. Another John.
Again FUCK.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

2009 has really been the worst year.

grocery groin (snoball), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

whoah wtf

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

megaRIP

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Are you happy now Gene Siskel?!?!

Alex in SF, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

might put on pretty in pink and cry

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

and so soon after the success of Drillbit Taylor

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

Wow. And weird: I just bought the Reach the Rock soundtrack on CD yesterday.

jaymc, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

As much as I love the Ringwald trilogy, and Some Kind of Wonderful, I often think of Ferris Bueller as one of the most perfect movies ever made. Or maybe it's just because I've seen it 100 times and know every nook and cranny of it. Either way, I'll miss him.

I just saw Uncle Buck for the first time about a month ago (I don't know how I'd missed it all these years), and it made me really bum out over the loss of John Candy. And now Hughes is gone too. :(

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

Uncle Buck is awesome.

RIP John Hughes. :-(

ENBB, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

there's really obnoxious race/class stuff in all his movies and Ferris is kinda the worst about it but if I had to rank 'em it would be - Breakfast Club, 16 Candles, Pretty in Pink, Ferris>>>everything else

Breakfast Club is so goofily earnest, just like high school

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

Here's the thread where we talk about the greatness that is the She's Having A Baby soundtrack...

Bimble's response to op is classic for me btw.

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

Just bght pretty ost at the flea market the other day. Also now realize i prob already have it.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't realize that he didn't direct PiP!

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

"Man hath but a short time to live
and is full of misery
He cometh up
and is cut down like a flower
He fleeth as if it were a shadow -
- and never continueth in one stay"

omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

between grief and nothing, i'll take grief

omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

He did much more writing and producing than directing, actually.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

some of his stuff that i read in the national lampoon as a kid seriously screwed me up and helped make me the screw-up that i am today. i think that's a compliment. breakfast club and pretty in pink certainly huge cultural moments for my generation.

i mean, i read this when i was eleven:

http://www.tgfa.org/fiction/MyVagina.htm

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

awwwwww man.

Thanks for the 7 or 8 movies that I've seen 20+ times each, JH.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

and if you are gonna read My Vagina by John Hughes, you have to read My Penis too. it's only fair.

http://www.tgfa.org/fiction/MyPenis.htm

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

I hope heaven is full of girls falling for the wrong guy

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

This is true of John, just as it is true of Ferris:

http://www.idiotsavant.com/ftp/sounds/dude.wav

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

Am lighting 16 candles in tribute.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

couldn't find it on youtube, but I shoulda written my thesis about this scene.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7284684

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

holy shit, I had no idea John Hughes wrote that "My Vagina" thing; I read that when I was a kid and it was like "WOAH"

RIP

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

Hughes was responsible for Drillbit Taylor?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

Home Alone brings me unparalleled delight. RIP

watch me superban dat ho (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

As much as I love the Ringwald trilogy, and Some Kind of Wonderful, I often think of Ferris Bueller as one of the most perfect movies ever made.

otmfm
twist and shout scene one of my favourite cinematic moments

the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

RIP 1980's

akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

apparently stirrup leggings are back, though.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

Definitely had little use for him, but he shaped my perceptions of what constitutes a teen comedy (so that others could do it better); and he had a way with a one-liner.

His Vacation script is still the best thing he did.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

To me Planes, Trains, and Automobiles has always been his best. I won't spoil it to those who haven't seen it, but I think John Candy's character in that movie is one of the best written and performed roles in any Hollywood comedy ever.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

RIP.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

I remember watching Breakfast Club's ending over and over when I a was a teenager... Not that it hasn't happened since. RIP.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

PT&A is probably his "best", but I have seen Ferris and BC so many more times.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

I've only seen PT&A once, and it's been a long time. I should def re-see.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

BC would otherwise be perfect, but I hate how Ally Sheedy's transformation from "goth" to "normal" is supposed to be like a happy ending.

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

That moment represents everything I despise about Hughes; I always thought he tried to atone by making PIP's Duckie as unabashedly weird ('gay') as possible.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

haha oh Tuomaspaws

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

That moment represents everything I despise about Hughes; I always thought he tried to atone by making PIP's Duckie as unabashedly weird ('gay') as possible.

except that Duckie is TOTALLY gay, the resolution for his character makes no sense! I dunno, all his movies have problems.

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

I love them, problems and all.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

Also, pairing Ally Sheedy with Emilio Estevez in the end seemed a bit too convenient. The romance between Molly Ringwald and the bad boy felt credible, but that other one didn't. It seemed like they wanted to give a happy ending to everyone. (Except for the nerd guy, but who cares about nerds.)

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

Well, Hughes wants it both ways: every bit of clothing and mannerism signals that he's queer, yet is convincingly in love with Ringwald.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

(Duckie, that is)

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

In all fairness, it is patently obvious that:

1) Ally Sheedy's character acts and dresses the way she does because no one ever pays attention to her;
2) The makeover is the only way Molly Ringwald's character knows how to express wanting to do something nice for her;
3) Emilio Estevez's character is attracted to her well before the makeover happens.

It's pretty genius in its simplistic/not simplistic construction, IMO.

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

Again, a problem with the story that separates it from reality and makes it a movie. xxxp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

wau Dan, you're right!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

Adventureland Soundtrack

1. Satellite Of Love - Lou Reed
2. Modern Love - David Bowie
3. I’m In Love With A Girl - Big Star
4. Just Like Heaven - The Cure
5. Rock Me Amadeus - Falco
6. Don’t Change - INXS
7. Your Love - The Outfield
8. Don’t Dream It’s Over - Crowded House
9. Looking For A Kiss - The New York Dolls
10. Don’t Want To Know If You Are Lonely - Husker Du
11. Unsatisfied - The Replacements
12. Pale Blue Eyes - The Velvet Underground
13. Farewell Adventureland - Yo La Tengo
14. Adventureland Theme Song - Brian Kenney

jaymc, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

Pretty close, jaymc!

Meanwhile, we definitely need more movies exploring the horror that lurks beneath the placid surface of the suburbs. Forget for the time being that the suburbs, generally speaking, are indeed actually pretty toothless and tame. We demand the truth, and the truth is never as neat as the nice yards and good schools of the North Shore suburbs. That's all a myth that the Man wants you to buy into, man. (If you can afford it.)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:15 (sixteen years ago)

Like this one. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254888/

Unflinching, man.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

Damned stoner.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

or like those lameasses Updike and Cheever, amirite?

you guys are Buellers, essentially. Methinks thou dost protest in spades.

Ms Kael:

The Breakfast Club
US (1985): Drama
97 min, Rated R, Color, Available on videocassette and laserdisc

Set mostly in the library of a suburban Chicago high school, this encounter-session movie by the writer-director John Hughes is about five students-a cross-section of the student body-who in the course of serving a 7-4 Saturday detention peel off their layers of self-protection, confess their problems with their parents, and are stripped down to their "true selves." The five are: a champion wrestler (Emilio Estevez), a popular redhead "princess" (Molly Ringwald), a grind (Anthony Michael Hall), a glowering rebel-delinquent (Judd Nelson) who wears an earring, and a shy, skittish weirdo (Ally Sheedy). With the exception of Sheedy, who's a marvellous comic sprite and transcends her role until she is jerked back into the script mechanics, the movie is about a bunch of stereotypes who complain that other people see them as stereotypes. Hughes has talent, and when the kids are just killing time the dialogue has an easy, buggy rhythm, but this is a very wet enterprise. It appeals to young audiences by blaming adults for the kids' misery and enshrining the kids' most banal longings to be accepted and liked. Judd Nelson, who is supposed to represent what authorities want to crush, has the worst-conceived role, though Paul Gleason's part as the callous dean is a close runner-up. Also with John Kapelos as the school janitor.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

and on Pretty in Pink:

John Hughes, who wrote the script and supervised the work of the first-time director, Howard Deutch, never goes beyond a kid's point of view; this picture isn't actually about teenagers--it's closer to being a pre-teen's idea of what it will be like to be a teenager. In its sociological details, it might have been made by little guys from Mars.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)

she did like Sixteen Candles though.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

it's really a shame she never reviewed Weird Science

da croupier, Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:27 (sixteen years ago)

you guys are Buellers, essentially.

You're Rooneying all over this thread.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)

You're Rooneying all over this thread.

Having only seen five terrible minutes of FB before turning it off, Morbs might not even get the reference.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

I don't -- Jeffrey Jones? not into little boys.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

are links to reviews from Kael supposed to be powerful evidence in your favor?

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

"ok I haven't seen this movie, but Kael hated it!"

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Not the most original thought ever, but both Ferris Bueller and Election are improved if you imagine that Broderick is playing the same person. All his smartassery got him nowhere!

(I like FB even though I think Ferris is a dick - it gets by on exuberance + supporting cast.)

Simon H., Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)

The movie deals with how selfish Ferris is too. Cameron finally calls him on it.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:25 (sixteen years ago)

As I've gotten older, I kind of see Jennifer Grey as the hero of the movie.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:26 (sixteen years ago)

oh damn. Just heard this news now! RIP.

De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Saturday, 8 August 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, I've never seen Bueller either, I just know Dennis Perrin is kinda full of crap.

Planes, Tranes . . . is by far my favorite Hughes.

Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 8 August 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

Also, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Ou-iK2_kQ

is funnier if you picture Morbs as Linda Fiorentino and everyone else as Jay & Silent Bob.

Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 8 August 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

"ok I haven't seen this movie, but Kael hated it!"

I've seen both those movies, so please fuck the piss off.

Josh in Chicago seems particularly dense, but I'll chlk it up to Hughesmovie chauvinism. SO PROUD

btw I have no memory of that Bueller "draft-dodging uncle" bit, cuz it's not in the movie.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 06:06 (sixteen years ago)

Pancakes, you deserve the Indians.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

The Indians that you said were going to win the division? Or the real ones?

Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:21 (sixteen years ago)

As soon as I saw that this thread existed, I had already read it.

Except for comparing Bueller to Breathless. Never saw that coming. Thanks for that.

Black bread and Victory gin AGAIN? (kenan), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:27 (sixteen years ago)

was gonna get behind the godard/hughes thing for the hell of it but couldn't think of a good angle

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

AO Scott took care of it for ya already

But I don’t think I’m alone among my cohort in the belief that John Hughes was our Godard, the filmmaker who crystallized our attitudes and anxieties with just the right blend of teasing and sympathy. Mr. Godard described “Masculin Féminin,” his 1966 vehicle for Jean-Pierre Leaud and Ms. Karina, as a portrait of “the children of Marx and Coca-Cola.” Mr. McCarthy and Ms. Ringwald, in “Pretty in Pink,” were corresponding icons for the children of Ronald Reagan and New Coke.

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 August 2009 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/movies/08appraisal.html )

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 August 2009 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

"ok I haven't seen this movie, but Kael hated it!"

I've seen both those movies, so please fuck the piss off.

Josh in Chicago seems particularly dense, but I'll chlk it up to Hughesmovie chauvinism. SO PROUD

btw I have no memory of that Bueller "draft-dodging uncle" bit, cuz it's not in the movie.

― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:06 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I never made it past the first 5 obnoxious minutes of "Ferris."

― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 7, 2009 6:54 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

^aspergers

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:47 (sixteen years ago)

"I didn't see the movie, but I saw the trailer and I can basically judge a movie from that"

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

I mean I'm honestly confused now, did you see all of ferris bueller?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

I mean you'd have no memory of ANY bueller bit, right?

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

the draft dodger thing in the screenplay was quoted from the opening scene (which I saw)

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:46 (sixteen years ago)

now go teach yr Hughes/Fitzgerald seminar

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

Man those 5 minutes really had an impact on you.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

srsly though you should watch it sometimes. Jennifer Grey is really funny in it.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

Was anyone else disconcerted when Molly Ringwald went from the ultimate outsider in "Sixteen Candles" (even though she got the guy in the end, to the popularity queen in "Breakfast Club"? It made more sense for me when she returned to quirky with "Pretty in Pink." Somehow, I never really believed her as the popular one, for in the Hughes canon, this is usually the buxom blonde cheerleader.

I watched these films in junior high--they were always enjoyable, but even at the time I felt they were incredibly stereotypical and unbelievable. Looking back, the standout performance for me is Jon Cryer as "Duckie." Anthony Michael Hall also confused me by going from uber dork to BMOC not much later in his career.

Nice fashions and aesthetics though, and yes the "Pretty in Pink" soundtrack is amazing. I want what MW is wearing in the first pic:

http://themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/teen-spirit-a-john-hughes-style-tribute/

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 9 August 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

molly on john.

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 07:23 (sixteen years ago)

John was my Truffaut.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

Might or might not be further evidence for the 'Ferris was a jerk' school.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

seven years pass...

The Great Outdoors is a kind of an odd one in that although I remember enjoying it as a kid, I was probably fully aware that it was just a Vacation/Planes, Trains and Automobiles knockoff. A re-watch confirms this: I would not be at all surprised if Hughes had cobbled together the script almost entirely from outtakes from those other two. The direction, by the guy who helmed Pretty in Pink and Some Kind of Wonderful is horribly slapdash as well. The whole thing, from conception to shooting and editing, gives the impression of being a rush job to make a summer release date (which probably was the case).

The subtitled racoons are still pretty funny, though.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 22 August 2016 18:52 (eight years ago)

The subtitled racoons are still pretty funny, though.

Tru.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:10 (eight years ago)

the raccoons and the steak and having to eat the gristle are all i remember about this movie

beer say hi to me (stevie), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:21 (eight years ago)

They're all that are worth remembering.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:22 (eight years ago)

the raccoons and the Ol' '96er are the only decent in a gruesome fucking movie (Annette Bening's in it!)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:23 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.criterion.com/films/29272-the-breakfast-club

50 minutes of never-before-seen deleted and extended scenes

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:13 (seven years ago)

god i wonder how many of these will be "problematic"

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:16 (seven years ago)

Kind of love that Molly is a lefty pundit on Facebook now.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:17 (seven years ago)

three years pass...

The most eloquent and detailed review that will probably ever be written of She's Having a Baby: https://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2021/03/shes-having-a-baby.html

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Monday, 29 March 2021 18:49 (four years ago)

Morbs goin' HAM upthread.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 March 2021 21:46 (four years ago)

classic morbs in maximum annoying mode. complete with denis perrin links and pauline kael c&p

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 March 2021 22:05 (four years ago)


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