eastbound & down vs. party down

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While I like Party Down a lot, Eastbound & Down was just on another level entirely for me.

Kenny Powers is my hero.

Yes. Kenny Powers is incredible. <3 <3 <3

I watched E&D again recently and a lot of it was even better the 2nd time around.

i think eastbound & down really plateaued after like the second episode and i think that party down has more episodes. also think party down has a much stronger cast and way better writing, whereas eastbound & down has danny mcbride's obv classic character and a kinda weak supporting cast

think that party down has more episodes

this is a very unique opinion that i have. of course i meant "more funny episodes"

lol Jordan.

I see what you're saying but honestly Kenny is enough to make E&D the winner for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et9-itE5qns

I also thought Party Down started really slowly but agree that the last 3/4 of the episodes are A++.

I haven't seen an episode of Party Down that I didn't at least enjoy a little bit.

I'm bummed Jane Lynch isn't coming back for S2.

Interesting to see this particular TV show fite, as I have been strongly recommending Party Down to my friend who is in love with E&D (and McBride in general). I think E&D wins by a nose because the pathos is mostly concentrated on one epic character rather than being spread out amongst an ensemble of v. strong characters. However, I feel that E&D ended perfectly and I would be fine never seeing another episode (and would prefer to not see more than another season or two unless they find a new angle to work). Party Down, being more of a slow-burner with a slightly broader concept, has a lot more potential as an ongoing series.

Both of these series play right into my hands, though, me being a huuuuuge fan of The Larry Sanders Show and the UK Office.

I watched E&D again recently and a lot of it was even better the 2nd time around.

― ENBB, Monday, 10 August 2009 04:29 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

While I like Party Down a lot, Eastbound & Down was just on another level entirely for me.

― ENBB, Sunday, August 9, 2009 2:27 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also party down loses points for being a direct rip off of the office - all the characters are the same and everything - its still super sweet btw

I thought of something else - E&T *touched* me more. I actually cried during the last episode when he dumped the teacher lady at the gas station and drove away. With PD I thought I was supposed to feel bad for Cloverfield girl and that guy but I really didn't. I guess I just felt more connected to Kenny Powers and his struggles in this cruel world. Like I said earlier I did like PD but just not in the same way.

should have been E&D not E&T obv.

Party Down, no fucking contest

although now that I've seen Foot First Way i do appreciate E&D more for doing well what they'd previously done really really badly.

party down by a fuckin mile

^^^ OTM

^^^ OTM

"I'm bummed Jane Lynch isn't coming back for S2"

agreed. she was a key element to the show.
voting for party down since it made me laugh harder.

i like how fred savage directs that show

too hard

both great

roll on seasons 2

d/l'd party down cos of this thred. can't say it's a fucking mile better than E&D, it's pretty awesome tho. I've watched baot 7 eps. the guy we're meant to be 'invested in' is sometimes ott mopey, but he is generally hilarious.

Funniest is the blond dude/sci fi lunatic relationship imo.

..and Jane Lynch obv

the woman who replaced jane lynch in the last episode was really funny i thought

wait wasn't that stifler's mom?

Yup.

Yeah, she's amazing and was v v funny in the episode. What's great too is that she and Jane Lynch were girlfriends in "Best in Show" so I enjoyed the connection in PD a lot.

lol we were watching the birthday party boat episode and thought the chasing amy chick was stifler's mum. dams she look old.
xp

(it was the chasing amy chick wasn't it? she has that voice)

Yep - Joey Lauren Adams. I haven't seen her in anything in a long time so that was sort of sad. Birthday party boat episode may be my favorite one because J.K. Simmons was so funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt3luslYy8s

ahhhh was sad because she did look pretty old

Joey Lauren Adams has not aged well, I agree.

yah used to be soo fine :/

gonna go sling some dervs

both are amazing

i honestly have no idea what to do here

"...we are also dreamweavers... because today this boat is not just a boat it is also a fairy tale fantasy land where every boy is a player and every girl is a bitch."

also party down loses points for being a direct rip off of the office - all the characters are the same and everything - its still super sweet btw

― ice cr?m, Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:00 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um u could also level this charge against, y'know... the office

no not really

fwiw i kinda sorta hate The Office but love Party Down (while acknowledging its obvious influence/similarities)

i haven't gotten around to E&D yet but party down is the funniest shit i've seen in awhile.

E&D is much much meaner (and generally less funny IMO.)

E&D is grittier and cruder but i'm not sure it's actually meaner. imo PD being able to make their sci fi nerd outcast a total dick with no redemptive arc really showed that they weren't gonna pull a lot of punches.

No one in E&D has redemptive qualities though (well maybe his brother.)

i guess they never popped anyone's eye out of its socket, so i'll give you that (xpost)

Which is fine, but E&D strikes me as much more Nighty Night to PD's The Office.

E&D to me works kind of on the same level as, say, The Big Lebowski, where w/ some of the characters even when they're being awful or stupid or crazy, there's a big window for people who wanna go "fuck yeah, this guy is awesome and hilarious" anyway, which to me doesn't make the depictions of those characters very 'mean' per se

no one on party down can come close to matching this guys charisma http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:wrQVtkrZ4ll-gM:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_60WoYLP7uBU/SagqH5EJACI/AAAAAAAAAM4/aKQKEw7Jebg/s320/Danny%2BMcBride.jpg

The whole tone strikes me as mean as though (more than just the depictions and yeah it's clear that the makers think that Kenny Powers is fucking awesome I'll give you that.) It's not a show where I am going to feel good about anyone or anything that's happening to them as amusing as I may find bits of it to be.

I don't really like the Big Lebowski though either so maybe I'm just not the target audience.

think he means they were caught by a whore and ur meant to relate to them cos of that

There are a lot of shows where the leads are normal and everyone else is whacky. That's not exactly an innovation of the American Office.

There are a lot of shows
― Alex in SF, Friday, August 14, 2009 7:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

now see thats just so inaccurate there arent that many shows

You're just mad cuz you got whore caught.

anyway theyre filmed and acted in exactly the same style - they have the same tone - theyre abt disillusioned people and their shitty job etc etc duh

Uh isn't the American Office a pseudo-doc w/ a lot of looks at the camera? And isn't Party Down not like that at all?

ok except for the doc part and jim winking at the camera - its t=still all handheld single camera action

I think the ways they're different probably outnumber the ways they're alike, but whatever. Even if it was a straight rip, it'd still be a good show.

i agree that its a good show - its just v obviously inspired by

There are a lot of shows where the leads are normal and everyone else is whacky. That's not exactly an innovation of the American Office.

^This. It's a stock comic formula (center and eccentrics) which is pretty effing ubiquitous throughout the history of the sitcom, at the very least.

Also, if anything I'd argue that the UK Office is a more direct inspiration insofar as it features a lot more pathos than its US counterpart.

u cant just take one of the many similarities i pointed out and say theres lots of stuff like that u fucking retards

i mean u can but youll sound retarded

Yeah guys he pointed out like two other similarities in case you didn't notice.

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/4/3044.jpg

i mean do the normals always have a drawn out ambiguous romantic relationship - are they always under achievers - is it always a dire work place setting - is their boss always needy and ineffectual - is the second lead weird always an aspie nerd - is it always a single hand held camera set up - is there always no laugh track - are u always getting me riled over something so stupid and obvious

thats like at least 20 things

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/4/3044.jpg_

mr haircare w/the clever cheers rejoinder x2

I count six.

1) It's not that drawn out or ambiguous. They're fucking in the third episode.
2) They aren't underachievers. Nothing indicates these folks are good actors, comedians, writers or human beings.
3) Sometimes
4) I do agree that the Marino/Carrell similarity is probably the strongest point of similarity.
5) Uh it isn't a single camera set-up in Party Down. Unless my memory is incorrect there are cuts all over the place.
6) These days, yes.

confidential to joe and alex: this isnt worth it

Probably not.

i want to get to the bottom of this

Don't get me riled up!

1 they have chemistry for the 1st half of the season they fuck then shes all like im not that into it then shes like i am into then shes like im going on a cruise for 6 months see u - def ambigious

2 theyre totally underachievers - they may not be good actors be theyre def too smart for those jobs - same w/the office - its the main underlying theme of the show

3 yeah its dire - once again the main these

4 and dwight and scifi nerd guy

5 eh i cant remember and i dont have them to check but def naturalistic hand held set up

6 as inspired by the office

ps

http://i30.tinypic.com/xfnci1.jpg

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no, FIGHT

another thing is normals arent the stars of the show - the neurotic boss is - its like if cliff clavin was the star of cheers

You ruined my picture, ice cr?m. You need to buy me a new one or I'm telling my dad.

u shouldnt have tested me in that manner

wow i wish i'd seen this argument 20 posts to shut it up with a bunch of links to every interview w/ the Party Down people where they talk about how much they love The Office and took so much inspiration from it for their show

P.S. and FYI from the top of the thread where I acknowledge, if not a stylistic debt, at least the similarity in comedic tone:

Both of these series play right into my hands, though, me being a huuuuuge fan of The Larry Sanders Show and the UK Office.

― Hi, there you're being haunted! Dont you notice it? (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:43 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

But still:

http://images.tvrage.com/shows/4/3044.jpg

wow i wish i'd seen this argument 20 posts to shut it up with a bunch of links to every interview w/ the Party Down people where they talk about how much they love The Office and took so much inspiration from it for their show

― some dude, Friday, August 14, 2009 10:59 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

deric, alex, ownd

I don't recall arguing that the show wasn't inspired by the Office, just pointing out that most of your arguments were garbage (which they still are.)

In fact I think I pointed out above that the tone was very similar (comparing EB&D's to Nighty Night by contrast.)

lol u r so lame and wrong again alex suk it

Hey you coming back to I Love Hoops at some point or are you still crying into your pillow at night about Kobe's ring?

yeah its just basketball dead season pretty much - i was out of web range during the finals - didnt even see them in fact - maybe the first game i cant remember - congrats btw

and as always fuck kobe the rapist bryant

A total Quintin Dailey rip off that guy.

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vs system of a down

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Powers was robbed.

^_^

i guess this is the only Party Down thread, but i've been watching these on streaming Netflix and though it is basically a clone of the British Office, i think i like it. no way it is as funny or original as Eastbound tho.

in fairness i've only seen 1.5 episodes of Party down but I'm o__O at these results.

Anybody seen Party Down, new Starz comedy series?

Both shows are really good, will. It was a difficult decision to make. Although I feel that it's important to note that

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