- Alfred North Whitehead
― Josh, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And what about other sacred texts?
― anthony, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dom Passanino, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Matt, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
A Judean, a Samaritan and a Pharisee walk into a bar, right, and the Judean, wait for it, he orders a skin of wine...
― misterjones, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― j.lu, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― MarkH, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Queen I didn't die in a movie shootout G, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickn, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Josh, Saturday, 15 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 22 November 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 22 November 2003 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 22 November 2003 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Rockist Scientist (RaksShark...), November 22nd, 2003. (later)
― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 22 November 2003 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 November 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― typo acapulco (gcannon), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― typo acapulco (gcannon), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 22 November 2003 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 22 November 2003 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Petros also was slang for blockhead, so it also was a pun that could be read as Peter being the imbecile on which his church will be built.
And of course when Jesus said "he amongst you who is without sin, let him cast the first stone",
Perhaps Jesus said this b/c he wanted to be first?
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 22 November 2003 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)
And they asked him, saying, "Giving tribute unto Caesar: Classic or Dud?"
But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, "Why tempt ye me? Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? Caesar OTM."
And they marvelled at his answer, and held the peace.
― Tep's Gospel of Luke, ILE translation (ktepi), Saturday, 22 November 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 22 November 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)
"The portrayal of Jehovah in the Old Testament is a literary parody of the absolutist monarchs who littered the Near East at that time, people don't seem to have worked that out.
I'm not going to be stupid enough to speculate on the author(s) - obviously i'm dimly aware that the Pentateuch is usually set aside from the rest, but the tradition is maintained more or less throughout, IMO. So, definitely the inention is to satirize earthly despots - and perhaps divine ones too - combined with narrative history and metaphysical speculation.So not 'funny' as such, but satirical. If you look on it with that perspective there's loads of jokes at the expense of a "vain, shallow, neurotic,masculine, horifically insecure tyrant" (to quote myself again).
― Pete S, Saturday, 22 November 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
xpost; that's a possible reading, but very unlikely as far as intent goes
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 22 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, I'd say the humour is pretty dry.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 22 November 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 22 November 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 22 November 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 22 November 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― jackson anderville, Saturday, 22 November 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 23 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)
In any case, Numbers was an improvement over Leviticus, which is basically 20 pages of specs for the Ark of the Covenant and then 10 more on what to do about lepers. So far nothing has topped Genesis. At least three times, somebody goes to a new town and pretends his wife is his sister so the king won't kill him, and the king makes a move on the wife/sister, and God gets pissed, and the king is all "How is this my fault?" It's like the White Stripes press bio, but with more smiting.
I just can't wait to get the part where they chop the baby up.
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 23 November 2003 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 November 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 23 November 2003 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, "Deuteronomy's a hoot."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 November 2003 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 23 November 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 November 2003 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 23 November 2003 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 23 November 2003 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 23 November 2003 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 November 2003 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 23 November 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 23 November 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)
I've heard good things of Everett Fox's 'The five books of Moses', too, as a really good translation and commentary on the Torah, but I haven't myself read it, so.
― cis (cis), Sunday, 23 November 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, Ned...it's not familiar.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 23 November 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 November 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)
there was that part in Exodus, when the Jews were complaining about eating nothing but manna (or something else) that G*d had given them and wanted meat. so Moses went to tell this to G*d, who was pretty pissed off that they were such ingrates. and G*d said something, to the effect of, "ok, they want meat? i'll give 'em meat! let 'em eat meat till they burst!!" which is what He did, and what they did.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 November 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Munki (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)
But there's WAY more funny stuff in Judaism. Look at the idiots of Chelm! And I forget the finer points of this story but here's another example: a man finds that his house has caught fire, so he runs all the way to the rabbi to ask for advice. The rabbi listens, and then says, "My son, you must draw a circle around the house X-many handspans wide, then another circle X lengths away, blah blah kabbalistic mysticism...and the fire will be put out." The man thanks the rabbi profusely and turns to run home, and the rabbi yells at his disappearing back, "And water! Throw lots of water on the fire while you're at it!"
― Laurel, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)
― steve ketchup, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)
Also, the part where Jesus drives the evil spirits from the guy into the pigs, and the pigs go wild, and the people who own the pigs get all haughty, and Jesus and everyone has to get the puck outta Dodge? Funny.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)
― salexander / sophie (salexander), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)
― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)
I don't get it.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
Noah then removed the covering from the ark and saw that the surface of the ground was dry.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
And Jesus killing a fig tree basically because he's hungry and huffy is good for annoying those who say he never sinned, which is a fun thing in itself.
― stet (stet), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
or is it possible that humor fell more on the performance and slapstick side? or in just appreciation of cleverness and trickery? (like jacob and esau.)
where do we start to see a lit of humor? chaucer maybe? i'm really clueless. i just know that when my unread ass thinks about anything really old that i've read... i generally isn't very funny.m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)
Xpost--there's lots of humor from back then. Homer wrote a comedy that's been lost for millenia. See also Aristophanes and Lucian, both as funny as anyone trying to be funny now.
― Brooklyn Zoo, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
cool. i just didn't know. nothing like a college degree!m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10102000/10102102.jpg
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)
http://www.beamish.org/images/Jesus%20laughing.jpg
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
vs.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)