the new french extremity/new french horror c ou d

lol i no give me a break

but holy fuck is martyrs disturbing. dont want to spoil it for anybody that hasnt seen it but the whole thing is n/l its not as gory as inside or even hostel for the most part but like irreversible which i guess it has some connections to its got a like 10-12 min sequence thats really hard to get thru. its def hard 2 overstate how riveting and fucked up this movie is

it also made me want 2 give irreversible another chance since it seems like a starting point for some of this stuff - that and trouble every day which i also havent seen. of the stuff i have seen ive only really liked them and high tension some of the others esp inside i thought were pretty dull

also maybe we could talk about how interested all these movies seem to be in violence against women altho i think "the ordeal" is supposed to subvert that? i no its pretty conscious but its also pretty unpleasant also i think theres a lot of political subtext to these movies - stuff like frontiers that other noe abt the butcher

damn most of the vidz on line are pretty spoiler heres a teaser for martyrs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EOajUNs9gw&feature=related

also maybe we could talk about how interested all these movies seem to be in violence against women

huge subtext/overt text of horror for so many reasons. it's the only genre I really give a shit about so obv me being me I think about this q a lot but it's late & I'm exhausted but yeah, why is horror largely about torturing women/who has done interesting things with that a good q - right now I don't know who's doing interesting stuff but Tobe Hooper & Wes Craven both used to fuck around with it. it's like the template is "women must suffer at men's hands, often senselessly - work within that framework"

ugh I fucking hated Martyrs - pseudo-intellectual garbage. I much prefer the straight-up nastiness of Inside.

yah i think even in 2009 theres maybe sum interesting stuff to talk about w/ this movies - their relation to "french cinema" @ large & to american horror (lol sum 1 is making martyrs in english O_o) mb should have put p4k in the title?

one other current running thru a lot of these is home invasion/violating the sanctity of the home - kinda ties into the violence against women thing lol all those shots of the child in the womb and the womblike rooms of the house in insude. feel like a lot of these films are "introverted" & "interior" in a way a lot of am horror isnt violence is often out there lurking whereas the french are getting fukken attacked where they live alla time

also theres a lot of women hurting other women in these - altho theres like a dozen of these movies so mb lol @ tryna say too much

is there a top 20 list of "new french extremity" movies?

I really dig "Sheitan".

i dont think there are 20 of these tbh

ils (them)
martyrs
irreversible
calviare (the ordeal)
satan
high tension
frontier(s)
trouble every day
À l’intérieur (inside)
intimacy
maybe i stand alone

and i guess la horde and the pack which are 2009 films and there are sum french horror movies like malfique which arent really part of this more "old-fashioned" or w/e

if anyone can think of any i missed plz list!!!

I would say baise moi prefigures all this somewhat! that's really all I got, I've been watching giallo & eighties horror mainly for the past couple years besides the predictable asian horror phase

the only 1 of these i've seen is high tension + it is notable for the ridiculously terrible ending

Apparently "Demonlover" is part of this too but waht? that movie was fucking terrible.

I've only seen High Tension (garbage) and Martyrs (one of the top 5 horror films I've ever seen) and also Irreversible (not bad) but I want to see Inside too I think.

fuck demonlover forever

I'd add in my skin to lamp's list as an early influencer, more on the art film side tho like trouble every day

early ozon maybe a part of this? see the sea?

yeah some of ozon probably works as well

having now seen trouble every day it is totally the best btw

i kinda love 'demonlover'? but its a fantasy through and through imo

I loved the first half of it