The Time Out NY Film Alt-Canon

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
02. Mulholland Drive (Lynch, 2001) 3
15. The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973) 3
09. Something Wild (Demme, 1986) 2
14. The Color Purple (Spielberg, 1985) 1
11. Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) 1
19. The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (Cassavetes, 1976) 1
13. Starship Troopers (Verhoeven, 1997) 1
23. Mouchette (Bresson, 1967) 1
04. Hellzapoppin' (Potter, 1941) 1
16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Peckinpah, 1974) 1
20. Men in War (A. Mann, 1957) 0
21. Sans soleil (Marker, 1982) 0
22. Yearning (Naruse, 1964) 0
18. The Delta (Sachs, 1996) 0
17. Secret Defense (Rivette, 1998) 0
24. Platform (Jia, 2000) 0
01. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick, 1975) 0
12. I Could Go On Singing (Neame, 1963) 0
10. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (Peckinpah, 1973) 0
08. The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975) 0
07. The Big Heat (Lang, 1953) 0
06. Pauline at the Beach (Rohmer, 1983) 0
05. Close-Up (Kiarostami, 1990) 0
03. Videodrome (Cronenberg, 1983) 0
25. The Ghost Ship (Lewton, 1943) 0


boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:18 (sixteen years ago)

A lot (if not most) of these are arguably canon, but let's look past that, et al.

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

seen only 8 of those (Booky and Lyndon are high on the list)
but from what i've seen The Long Goodbye, it's been a long time but can only remember good things about it (the loneliness, the ending, the harmonica)

Ludo, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)

what is the premise of this arbitrary fish fry?

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

ya this is bizarre

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

how iconoclastic to propose that a STANLEY KUBRICK film be canonized!!

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

ye gods, The Delta

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)

finally somebody speaking up for bresson - the snobs will be furious

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

I think they just mean filmmakers TONY readers have never heard of, Kubrick and Altman aside

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

and about four others.

jeez, I don't like The Color Purple

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)

if tony readers haven't heard of altman, jonathan demme, spielberg and peckinpah, they got some splaining to do.

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:43 (sixteen years ago)

thank god someones willing to canonize killing of a chinese bookie

fleetwood (max), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

the canonizing of a chinese bookie

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:46 (sixteen years ago)

more like it

Miss Fitzhenry (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:46 (sixteen years ago)

I don't get yr irony, max, compared to all that horseshit w/ Gena Rowlands

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

Bewildering sequence:

Starship Troopers (Verhoeven, 1997)
14. The Color Purple (Spielberg, 1985)
15. The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973)
16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Peckinpah, 1974)

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:48 (sixteen years ago)

what is the premise of this arbitrary fish fry?

there's a link at the top of the thread to the original piece

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:48 (sixteen years ago)

I know, I thought I'd save time

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

Something Wild, The Big Heat, Pauline at the Beach the only ones I'd watch this second.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

also, isn't Mulholland Dr. going to top every '00s poll in December, except for maybe People and EW?

Seriousness would be indicated by nominating Rohmer's Le Rayon Vert instead of the frothy and crowd-pleasing Pauline.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)

I don't care much for distinguishing between Rohmer films, especially his eighties films.

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:52 (sixteen years ago)

the diff btwn the great and the good

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

i havent seen half of these but from what i have seen, im torn between 'videodrome' and 'long goodbye'.

Michael B, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

sans soleil because why the hell not

Julie & Julius Rosenberg (donna rouge), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

Clicked this thinking Time Out NY Film Alt-Canon meant movies about or shot in New York. Frankly I like my idea better.

chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

2 peckinpahs cuz he's that obscure

there's like 5 films i really love on this but i'm not going to choose because the list is retarded

velko, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.tamfi.org/

velko, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 4 September 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

missed a few of these but i HAVE seen 'men in war' and 'secret defence', which they've included to look clever. fucking lame. 'secret defence' is boring even by rivette's standards. 'men in war' is ok but... zzz. if you want to go non-western mann do one of his noirs.

01. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick, 1975) - NOT VERY ALT TBQH
02. Mulholland Drive (Lynch, 2001) - "
03. Videodrome (Cronenberg, 1983) - "
04. Hellzapoppin' (Potter, 1941) - "
05. Close-Up (Kiarostami, 1990) - "
06. Pauline at the Beach (Rohmer, 1983) - probably shit; most 80s rohmer is
07. The Big Heat (Lang, 1953) - NOT VERY ALT TBQH
08. The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975) - YAWN
09. Something Wild (Demme, 1986) - is this alt? really? maybe it's... demi-alt
10. Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (Peckinpah, 1973) - blah
11. Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) - idk what this is. you win, tony.
12. I Could Go On Singing (Neame, 1963) - "
13. Starship Troopers (Verhoeven, 1997) - fucking rubbish leaden "satire"
14. The Color Purple (Spielberg, 1985) - ... can think of less well-known and better films
15. The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973) - NOT VERY ALT TBQH
16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Peckinpah, 1974) - NOT VERY ALT TBQH
17. Secret Defense (Rivette, 1998) - zzzzzzzzzzz
18. The Delta (Sachs, 1996) - idk what this is. you win, tony.
19. The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (Cassavetes, 1976) - really amazingly bad and dull and not even alt
20. Men in War (A. Mann, 1957) - good but not the 20th best little-known film ever
21. Sans soleil (Marker, 1982) - fail. surely they meant to pick one of his out-of-distribution 50s/60s films? this is pretty weak anyway.
22. Yearning (Naruse, 1964) - idk what this is but probably should.
23. Mouchette (Bresson, 1967) - NOT VERY ALT TBQH
24. Platform (Jia, 2000) - terrible
25. The Ghost Ship (Lewton, 1943) - why the hell not

history mayne, Friday, 4 September 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

21. Sans soleil (Marker, 1982) - fail. surely they meant to pick one of his out-of-distribution 50s/60s films? this is pretty weak anyway.

NRQ?

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Saturday, 5 September 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)

Anyway, I vote Color Purple for being the most likely to rub this list's target audience the wrong way.

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Saturday, 5 September 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 5 September 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)


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