STEAK (do not read if you are vegetarian or hate me.)

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It's like that Jane's Addiction band said, "Everybody has their own opinion."

Poll Results

OptionVotes
MEDIUM RARE 62
RARE 31
MEDIUM 23
MEDIUM WELL 10
WELL DONE* 6
***EXTREMELY*** WELL DONE 1
TARTARE 1


ian, Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

I AM A VEGETARIAN AND I HATE YOU!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

I am a really a vegetarian but I don't really hate you at all. <3

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

I like medium, which means at most places (regardless of how expense) I order medium rare.

Popture, Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:57 (sixteen years ago)

Steaks are cheating. They are too easy to cook, so that any idiot can learn how.

Aimless, Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

rare at a reputable steakhouse, medium everywhere else i.e they can fuck it up a little one way or another and it will still be good.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

That does not make them any less delicious. xp

ian, Sunday, 13 September 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

Rare. If I'm lucky it will come out truly rare, but at least they usually don't fuck up rare orders into the mid-well range.

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

exception: The Outback. Which can't even get prime rib done to the correct temp/color.

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

Guys I have not had a steak in 16 years. Maybe I should change this.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:01 (sixteen years ago)

med. rare

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

yes you should wtf.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

It might make you really really sick? xp to enbb

ian, Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:02 (sixteen years ago)

now I want a ribeye so bad, but we have so many leftovers in the fridge

Hugh Manatee (WmC), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

x-post - yeah, it would probably destroy me tbh

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:06 (sixteen years ago)

Filet (@ classy joint): practically raw
Most Others: med. rare

I've only had tartare once, but it was fantastic!

Pullman/Paxton Revolving Bills (Pillbox), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:12 (sixteen years ago)

Medium Well, I'm not a savage.

Don't Be A Ned Raggett (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

not a disgusting savage imo, medium well

dorroughmac (k3vin k.), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:15 (sixteen years ago)

i've started using "disgusting savage" way too frequently in my daily life.

"my cat is such a disgusting savage! he whines and whines to go out, even when it's raining. such a small brain!"

"that bartender is a most disgusting savage imo, it took like 10 minutes to get a drink."

ian, Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:17 (sixteen years ago)

medium rare... i like it near-bloody but there's a psychological thing of making the effort to cook it a bit

Wake OOIOO (get bent), Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:41 (sixteen years ago)

i always order medium rare (always = like twice a year) because i am scared to order rare. and yeah, what get bent said. also... i need to learn how to cook this stuff myself. i am so bad at meat.

tehresa, Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:46 (sixteen years ago)

just a wee bit of pink is how i likes it

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 04:56 (sixteen years ago)

last night for the first time I watched the movie The Fly starring Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis and there's this scene where he cuts a steak in half and teleports one half and does not teleport the other and then he makes Geena Davis do a taste-test on the steaks to see if the genetic reintegration distorted the taste. Geena said that yes, the teleported steak tasted synthetic. then he turned into a gigantic disgusting drippy Fly-Man who vomits acid onto Geena's mean boyfriend and is eventually killed with a shotgun

but anyways, voted MEDIUM!

iiiijjjj, Sunday, 13 September 2009 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

rare you fucking pussies.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 13 September 2009 05:19 (sixteen years ago)

ya rare motherlovers RARE!!!

mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:02 (sixteen years ago)

dare 2 B rare

imo

mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

I don't like steak n

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:06 (sixteen years ago)

ctrl+f 'bleu'

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)

idk choosing rare seems like a token "look at me i am in touch with my caveman roots" from decidedly non-caveman-like people

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:08 (sixteen years ago)

well-done

even medium well ppl are savages imo

iatee, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

no, it is the nicest way to eat steak, to commune with the very essence of meat xp o god well dammit i'm an ANIMAL

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

it really depends on the cut, you don't want to eat a t-bone or sirloin rare, where as eating a filet or rib-eye at anything more than med-rare is just a waste of all the fat/flavor that gets cooked out.

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:10 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, i'll definitely give ya that, steaks that taste like charcoal = ugh

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:11 (sixteen years ago)

anyway the actual answer to this poll is ARGENTINE

alien vs the smiths (country matters), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:13 (sixteen years ago)

also depending on if it's been (dry) aged, corn/grain vs. grass-fed, etc... can make little differences in how a chef preps and sears. If it's a real nice cut, I ask the chef his recommendation first and tune accordingly.

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:14 (sixteen years ago)

hamburger

we like cars, we like cartoons (dyao), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

i need someone to take me out and pay for steaks so i can act like i know what i'm talking about

tehresa, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

idk choosing rare seems like a token "look at me i am in touch with my caveman roots" from decidedly non-caveman-like people

― latebloomer, Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:08 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

latebloomer if you want to call me a decidedly non-caveman-like person do it to my face

mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:17 (sixteen years ago)

you civilized bastard

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:24 (sixteen years ago)

yeah man i think you know damn well i live in a cave

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:24 (sixteen years ago)

Medium rare. Rare can sometimes be too chewy or slick. Medium rare changes the texture just enough without changing the flavor. Also, sirloins are wonderful when they're rare-medium rare.

Melissa W, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:26 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like if rare is too chewy or slick it is just not a good cut/piece of meat.

i have never had tartare. i want to try this some day.

tehresa, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BiQe38efy_Y/SkDxarE9P7I/AAAAAAAAAZU/RDQ-afqc7IQ/s320/fred-barney.jpg

l-r:

slocki, strongo

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

i also think you know damn well i am taller than slocki

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:28 (sixteen years ago)

with all that protein, no wonder

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:30 (sixteen years ago)

shoulda gone with the geico guys imo

tehresa, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:32 (sixteen years ago)

http://introspectreangel.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/geico-cavemen-restaurant.jpg

slocki, strongo in eager anticipation of their dinner

latebloomer, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)

i will not be mocked for my love of blood

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:39 (sixteen years ago)

signed, guy eating mostly refined carbs these days due to poverty

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:40 (sixteen years ago)

rare, medium rare if i'm a little uncertain

Carpaccio is pretty awesome too

velko, Sunday, 13 September 2009 06:45 (sixteen years ago)

JtMATROHB, what on earth are you on about? Webmail me, if you prefer to answer that way.

Aimless, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)

When I was young, I preferred meat to be (a) well done, (b) in small pieces, and (c) covered with sauce. When ordering beef, I'd often order dishes that were heavily sauced/marinated/seasoned, which pretty obviously tended to be cuts that weren't all that great on their own. Rare, pink, or bloody roast cuts disturbed me, and I associated them with scary older rich cigar-chomping white people with fake teeth. (There were people like this in my area who, when asked how they'd like their steak, would answer "just knock off the cowboy," which always bothered me because cowboys do not ride cows.) At bottom, I wasn't really enjoying good meat -- I was enjoying bad meat suffused in other flavors I liked. I'm not sure I ever even really had a piece of good meat; I didn't come from a steak or roast type of family in terms of meals at home, and I didn't much order such things in restaurants.

Then, when I was maybe 21 or so, my girlfriend took me to a steakhouse and got me to eat a good cut of meat, medium-rare -- for basically the first time -- and I got the point. (Not just the point of medium-rare, but the point of eating a whole big unadorned chunk of meat.) If a steak is good, cooking it beyond that really just dries it out, toughens it, and sucks out the flavor. I say this as someone who grew up not believing this and then had it proved to me by Mouth Science. (Another good way to drive this in is to make good steak at home: season, brush with olive oil, sprinkle with rosemary, and toss in a good grill pan, and then just watch it, watch how juicy and delicious it looks around the medium-rare point, and then watch what happens as you leave it on further.)

nabisco, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)


Question:

Would it be kosher to eat a steak that is cooked medium-rare? I ask because it seems that there is still blood that comes out of the meat when cooked like this. Should steak be "well done"?

Answer:

The laws of kashrut require the extraction and drainage of all blood from beef or fowl within 72 hours of slaughtering. This is accomplished through a unique soaking and salting process—or, in some instances, through broiling.

The reddish liquid that remains inside the meat after this procedure is not halachically considered blood; it is the meat's "juice," and is 100% kosher.

Today, kosher meat is sold with the blood already removed. Therefore, if dining in a kosher restaurant, or if you bought your meat at a reliable kosher butcher, you can confidently eat your medium-rare steak.

ian, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:04 (sixteen years ago)

Aimless: i am just giving u shit WRT that story (valid, but depressing). NHF.

cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

Also I did not rly SB u.

cutty probably already everyone (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

anyone who votes WELL DONE is a weirdo. I mean,you might as well eat the soles of your shoes. Fuck that shit. So I vote Rare or Medium Rare. Probably the latter. Although I quite like tartare and gehakt (raw minced meat).
I also love having my steak prepped in the japanese way (with MOLASSES)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

haha if minced meats were being considered I would suggest a write-in vote for tinish lublub

nabisco, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.verkoeijen.nl/cms/images/stories/vlees/gehakt.jpg

This is very popular. Raw meat with LOTS AND LOTS of fat mixed in (I see Cutty running 200 km/hour tearing his eyes out)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

Medium-rare cuz I'm a pussy and afraid of getting some mutant blood disease from uncooked meat. I always order medium though cuz who knows how they're gonna send it to ya half the time.

oing oing oing (╓abies), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:01 (sixteen years ago)

And I'm just totally finicky wrt blood in general.

oing oing oing (╓abies), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

med well

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

morbs nooooo

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

No option for 'BLUE', no cred.

Personally, I like it a tony more than that usually, so rare will suffice/.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)

Who's tony? Maybe *tiny.*

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

i like it-a tony

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

Well done. I like eating charcoal.

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:41 (sixteen years ago)

…and, er 'bleu'. I apologise to any gourmands..

-xpost-

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 September 2009 14:42 (sixteen years ago)

that gehakt looks like how they sell ground beef here. scary.

tehresa, Thursday, 17 September 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

i am a disgusting savage who orders medium, but i'm not a really a steak guy. i like complimentary textures, sauces, and spices, so an unadorned piece of meat (even if it's really good beef) doesn't really do it for me. if it helps, i'm always embarrassed when i order it medium instead of medium rare.

also, in switzerland i had tartare once and it was amazing. it had roasted garlic mixed in. i think it was marinated in something citrus-y, ceviche-style...is this common for tartare, or is it usually totally raw?

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

rare. extremely, extremely rare.

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

i think it was marinated in something citrus-y, ceviche-style...is this common for tartare, or is it usually totally raw?

I'd just like to point out that originally, this was supposed to be made with horse meat. Traditionally it's made with tartar sauce, capers and raw egg and the meat is totally rare.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:39 (sixteen years ago)

raw, that is.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:41 (sixteen years ago)

i also had horse steak on that trip! we cooked it over a fire by the river and it was delicious (surprisingly tender too).

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

Medium here; not much of a red meat guy. While I won't cop to being a disgusting savage I am willing to concede I have appalling taste in food.

Which kind of leads into what I was thinking re: difficulty of ordering rare steaks in America (not something I experience firsthand but it happens every time I eat out with my dad). I think it's not so much a misplaced concern about health (or fear of getting sued) as it is part of the shift in America's eating habits over the last 50 years or so, with processed and fast foods becoming staples. I was born in 1983, and I know I definitely have an aversion to meat that's too obviously a chunk of dead animal- blood, bones (even in fish; come to think of it especially in fish), connective tissue, those stringy veins you see in chicken sometimes...eurgh. I once went to a Fogo de Chao in Atlanta with family and got physically ill from the smell of so much bloody meat (though that may not be The Culture, Man so much as me being a delicate fainting nancy).

It's like some magical synthetic-food Star Trek future only with more heart disease and adult-onset diabetes.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

oh sure, meat preparation and packaging have definitely taken us away from the old days of casually picking out gristle, using the organ meat, kids fighting over who got to suck the marrow out of the bone, etc.

I will say that I do often like the look of a thick steak that's been sliced before serving, for less of a hunk-of-meat appearance -- also I think the steakhouse tradition of serving full, massive cuts is kind of a problem, though I understand why it's done. I dunno, I had a dinner on vacation last week that was like a really great 6-8 ounce tenderloin and a stuffed poblano pepper, and that seemed like a better way to have steak, a reasonable amount alongside other things.

nabisco, Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:18 (sixteen years ago)

ick, when you are at a steakhouse you want them to serve it unsliced. luger's serves theirs sliced and...well...there are times when it seems like the first few pieces are from one hunk of meat and the ones you can initially see in presentation are from some other hunk of meat.

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)

I also love having my steak prepped in the japanese way (with MOLASSES)

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:19 PM (Yesterday)

Nat do you mean worchestire sauce? i have had "steak"* quite a few times in Japan and never encountered this.

*steak in Japan usually means a petite cut or a hamburg steak as beef prices are astronomical.

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

i dunno, steve, it's from one of my japanese cookbooks. you basically slap some molasses on the steak and grill it that way. then you cut it in strips and put it on rice.

horse meat is totally YUMMY

http://www.rafina.be/trade/image/thumb/gerookt_paardenvlees.jpg

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

i bet it's this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_steak#Salisbury_steak_around_the_world

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

oh, schef, I mean slicing at home! if I'm at a steakhouse, I am there for steakhouse style, I guess. but I do tend to cook steak (or steak sandwiches) at home a decent amount, because there's a butcher down the street and it's an awfully quick/easy way to make something really good.

nabisco, Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Nope, it specifically demands a steak. You have to cut into strips. I do think the sauce is similar to the one you linked to though. Does that make any sense? (Sorry, massive headache.)

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.canada.com/topics/lifestyle/food/story.html?id=eb67134d-6a63-492e-9167-f86f43582e45

something like this

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 September 2009 18:35 (sixteen years ago)

y'all like some raw/rare meat? here's some pics from my trips to steakhouses in Matsusaka (Hyogo) and Ishigaki-jima (Okinawa):

sashimi http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/514474077_92862bb31a.jpg
nigiri (raw, seared) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/514474607_429f3c545c.jpg
shoulder, center, tongue
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/514474607_429f3c545c.jpg
more sashimi http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2430/3572185507_e3e4c7164a.jpg
kalbi http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/3572191549_5394d124f6.jpg
tongue, center, filet, roast http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3612/3572187307_100f25d748.jpg
sirloin http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3415/3572190487_c35c97ea1f.jpg

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 September 2009 19:05 (sixteen years ago)

prefer filet and ribeye midrare, love it bloody but still want some char on it

helping to make them awafe of the risks (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

love it bloody but still want some char on it

Exactly.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

i've eaten at o'charleys once in my life, while waiting for my sister's flight to land a couple months ago. i ordered a burger and the server asked 'you want that medwell hun?' and i asked for it medrare...the moment that last r rolled off my lips i knew it was a mistake, when they brought my burger it was beyond well done. it was the doneness that we at my restaurant refer to as 'hockey puck'.

helping to make them awafe of the risks (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)

something very new to me that i'm lovin right now is pickling beef in rice wine vinegar

helping to make them awafe of the risks (nickalicious), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

I definitely like burgers a lot thinner and drier than steaks; I'm going to eat them with loads of extras and condiments and it's not great meat, so I don't need meatjuice running around

nabisco, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)

Why do I giggle at meatjuice. Right, cause I'm a bit pervy. Sorry.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:39 (sixteen years ago)

mmm steak

tomofthenest, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

rare, sometimes medrare for me. with colmans mustard.

tomofthenest, Thursday, 17 September 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

black and blue!

Don't hag me with your false green. (jdchurchill), Thursday, 17 September 2009 21:21 (sixteen years ago)

i am a disgusting savage who orders medium, but i'm not a really a steak guy. i like complimentary textures, sauces, and spices, so an unadorned piece of meat (even if it's really good beef) doesn't really do it for me. if it helps, i'm always embarrassed when i order it medium instead of medium rare.

― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:17 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but the contrast between the charred exterior and the juicy rare interior is like the best complementary texture/taste thing goin' on!!

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 September 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

from wiki:

Blue rare or very rare - (110°F core temp) Cooked very quickly; the outside is seared, but the inside is usually cool and barely cooked. The steak will be red on the inside and barely warmed. Sometimes asked for as 'blood rare'. In the United States this is also sometimes referred to as 'Black and Blue' or 'Pittsburgh Rare'.

can only do this with really good meat tho

so how 'bout meat: angus? kobe? i aint never had no kobe beef yet on account a it's expensive.

Don't hag me with your false green. (jdchurchill), Thursday, 17 September 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

we need to do this poll w/r/t hamburgers

Randy will be autographing copies of his fascinating autobiography (dyao), Friday, 18 September 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 18 September 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 19 September 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

Surprised tartare didn't get more votes.

Jeff, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:04 (sixteen years ago)

"WE LIKE OUR HAM-BUUURR-GERS RAWWWWWW"

bamcquern, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITLNzPoEqs

Jeff, Sunday, 20 September 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)


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