Should we pack the idea of "Saving the Pandas" ?

http://thefastertimes.com/science/files/2009/08/panda01.jpg

Too cute to just give up on, imo.

who will teach us about sexual harrassment now?

Dear Chris Packham,

Fuck you.

Sincerely,

Erica NBB

ps -

http://www.codeforsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/2007-3-23233923_7_.jpg

and also

http://ijjfellows.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/panda-bear-d.jpg

all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDY2m-oUdqE

packham presumably doesn't actually believe this and is successfully trolling for media coverage about their habitat being lost.

I've heard him say this exact same thing before, years ago.

I was just reading about how camels and horses evolved in North America and then traveled to Asia across successive versions of land bridge and then went extinct in their native habitats and had to be reintroduced by people thousands of years later, and it makes me think: it's not that we shouldn't try to be just and kind to animals, ie not club their babies into extinction just to remove a certain gland or tusk or pelt, but the survival of every species is not necessarily our problem.

I mean varieties of all animals, reptiles, and insects have come and gone through non-human history. No one worried about them then.

I've heard him say this exact same thing before, years ago.

Pissed, in the pub?

"PANDASH?? FACKING BARSHTODSH. (hic) YOU KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD DO?? FACKING CASHTRATE THE FACKING LOT OF EM THE LAZY SHMUG CANTS"

I mean I'm sure there is at least some validity to that sort of thinking and understand what Laurel is saying but then I look at them and their pig panda eyes and furball babies and any logic/reason goes straight out the window and I want to singlehandly save them all myself.

yeah but PANDAS. sod the scaly, slimey mf-ers but we do have a duty to save the cute, doe-eyed ones.

x-post err . . . singlehandedly

How about Erica offers to keep them all in her apartment? Kinda like a halfway house.

i mean since we destroyed their homes in the name of human expansion and have been fucking up the natural order left and right forever i don't have a problem with artificially trying to save them.

x-post I have a huge almost life sized stuffed bear named Otto. They would be good company for him.

(me napping on Otto btw Happy Birthday, ENBB!!)

No, no, clearly civilization-effected habitat loss is a giant problem that I'm not including in this category. Specifically at the time I was thinking about polar bears and their starvation now that the glaciers are receding and the pack ice forms later/melts sooner. Which has arguably been worsened due to global warming, but has happened many times due to natural climate changes and the ebb and flow of the various ice ages, one of which we are apparently still at the tail end of.

So it would be getting warmer anyway, maybe just more slowly w/o human pollution.

>:(

;_;

To rerail (hopefully), I do think that large animals (slow herbivores more than nippy carnivores) are ultimately pretty much doomed. I was at a museum the other week where they had a model walrus and this guy was HUGE. I feel bad an' all but Laurel's probably right. In the long run all that's gonna be left are the cockroaches. Cheered you up at all?

As long as there are people who love teh cuet, there will be pandas.

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planet of weeds -

http://www.ranprieur.com/readings/weeds.html

You know, people just can't be sold by financial arguments when it comes to anything slightly emotionally or romantically charged. I don't know whether I agree w/this dude or not but going "it's really expensive!" is not gonna sell people, sorry dude. (I learned this after years of holding the conviction that manned space travel is unnecessary bcz we can learn all the space stuff just as well by sending out machines...no one likes this argument bcz space travel is exciting and romantic and evocative!)

(I have kind of changed around and now think manned space travel is pretty rad.)

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Pandas win.

Erica's panda pics upthread have me reduced to a puddle of goo.