MAD MEN on AMC S4

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

VERY GOOD HAPPY CHRISTMAS!

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 02:47 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILER drape kills cooper

― luol deng (am0n), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

joanie is ceo in hostile takeover maneuver

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

spoiler.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

sally secretly funneling sterling cooper draper pryce profits to viet cong.

― LaMonte, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:10 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILER don falls out of a window onto a giant leg

― max, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:11 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILER don bangs hot chicks

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

Kinsey lands the Paul Masson account.

― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

peggy ends up on late-nite subway w/disoriented brian jones, keeps him company but refuses to give him her name or number. he suggests a line to mick: "she would never say where she came from..."

― STRATE IN2 DAKRNESS (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:28 (sixteen years ago)

don invents a time machine, travels to 2003, starts blog

― max, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:30 (sixteen years ago)

henry francis wonders what the fuck he's gotten himself into.

― LaMonte, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:33 (sixteen years ago)

^ seriously!

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)

i'm would also like to stan for Harry btw. going back to the previous, thread. dude's alright.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.nbc.com/Law_and_Order/video/clips/doped/1173400/

See? He kills people!

― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

i wish wish i could see. apparently i'm not allowed to in soviet canukistan.

i'm sure he's all awkward and aloof whist killing tho.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

I like Harry Crane! He looks like a Economy Sized version of our own n/a. In fact, in our house, we call Harry Crane "TV Nick."

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:11 (sixteen years ago)

He does look like a nebbishy Nick, it's true. Nick is way funnier, though. Harry Crane wouldn't even understand the depths of Nicks sarcasm.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:37 (sixteen years ago)

Sally Draper as daughter from American Pastoral

― Moreno, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:39 (sixteen years ago)

Kinsey lands the Paul Masson account.

this wins.

― cough syrup in coke cans (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha Yes, yes it does.

AHHHHH the french

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)

I reckon Peggy is having a Duckling. She was looking rounder again in that last ep.

― Zoe Espera, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:08 (sixteen years ago)

sheesh if that woman hasn't learned birth control by now i will have lost all respect for her. think it was just a tight fitting dress.

― tehresa, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:12 (sixteen years ago)

lol i'm watching an old satc and i'll be darned if that isn't roger sterling playing carrie's politician boyfriend.

― the tamiflu show (get bent), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:34 (sixteen years ago)

carrie's politician boyfriend who's into watersports

― the tamiflu show (get bent), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

when does s4 hit "our screens"

― Ronan, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 10:07 (sixteen years ago)

sally goes on a baby-spiking spree

― as they say in Finnish: "lihaperäpukamat (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:30 (sixteen years ago)

joan sharpens a boobs to her singularity

― as they say in Finnish: "lihaperäpukamat (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

betty begins exhaling frost

― as they say in Finnish: "lihaperäpukamat (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

bert starts a canteen at the new office; learns to use a wok

― as they say in Finnish: "lihaperäpukamat (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:33 (sixteen years ago)

paul kinsey loses a pencil in his beard

― as they say in Finnish: "lihaperäpukamat (remy bean), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 12:34 (sixteen years ago)

remove bookmark from this thread

― cutty, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILER cutty rebookmarks this thread

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

not until june

― cutty, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILER^

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 19:23 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

Am I the only one who really hates don? Like great great character, but dude is srsly a major douchetard and anyone who was surprised by his "u ppl"ing sal clearly does not "get" his character, which is advantageous existential black hole turning beautiful dreams into dirty money guy. Guys major asset is being able to fool ppl into not realising how he is sucking their life force all the time. Also sick of how even semi-wily and sussed characters like that teacher are so easily made hot for a couple of draper inches. Seems for like too seconds like she has her shit together and then bam "sure im prepared to endanger my already fragile position as a woman living self-sufficiently with the communities eyes on me for a bit of consequence-free-for-you happy time." Esp when dude is like the complete embodiment of the cynical dissolusionment that she seems to want to hang daisy-chains off of.

Betty seems to be the only character that DOESNT want to have sex with him now. Also she is an awesome character who is great bc she represents the emergence of 70's feminism from 60's middle-class housewives (realising the labour value of housework etc) and is a smart chick (went to college, speaks italian) who has been infantilised by the stifling oppressive expectations forced on women and also her semi-abusive husband. Seeing her start to piece together the beginnings of a revolution that was still only quietly in the works in white middle class households is one of the better storylines (Peggy's story is obviously way more fun because she is more triumphant)

― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 April 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

Am I the only one who really hates don?

Sigh. If he were a real human being, he would be the very worst sort. As a fictional character, he maintains much higher ground.

How many times do we have to go over this?

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:09 (fifteen years ago)

i read the whole last thread and everybody was assuming hes like this total liberal who's down with the homos wrt sal's storyline, even the bit where he fires him for being a phag everyone is all "oh he really means the advertising world" so

― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:13 (fifteen years ago)

"AM I THE ONLY PERSON WHO NOTICES THAT MICHAEL CORLEONE KILLS PEOPLE? AND THAT HE LIVES IN A WORLD VIRTUALLY DEVOID OF SEXUAL, RACIAL OR CULTURAL DIVERSITY?"

"No. You are not."

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

SPOILER don is not down with homos

― etrian odysseus (cozen), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:14 (fifteen years ago)

I hate Don too.

― Jeff, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:20 (fifteen years ago)

I love him when I love him, and I love to hate him when I hate him.

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

We're all watching soap operas, amirite?

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Seeing her start to piece together the beginnings of a revolution that was still only quietly in the works in white middle class households is one of the better storylines

agree with this. kind of glad we've migrated to a S4 thread because the S3 one is littered with examples of me mispredicting where the season would end up, BUT i still think that betty's arc, and the emergence of 70s self liberation from 60s containment thing, would be better served by her hitting a glass ceiling in contrast to peggy triumphing. like there are moments at which she's become autonomous and empowered (waiving the mechanic's fee; schmoozing jude-law type in bar) that she then retreats from, and - valuable overarching comment on mad men forthcoming - i think things are best conveyed & most poignantly illustrated when situations don't just work out perfectly for everyone. yeah i wasted a lot of hours watching studio 60 on the sunset strip: what a pile of rainbows.

also i still think don needs some dislikeable characteristics that aren't archaic rogue-isms. make the guy a eugenicist.

― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, I think he's already worse than that. He's a born salesman. Individual opinions on that will definitely vary along certain lines that are as-yet ill-defined in our popular language, if not in our popular imagination.

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:36 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think he does anything that challenges the tight connection we have with him. in his non-asshole-ish moments he's our stand-in protagonist, the guy we can rely to shake his head when someone wears blackface, doesn't take their hat off in an elevator or commits some kind of fifties guyish faux pas.

― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

And yet he's still racist, sexist, and (with special irony) classist in his own ways, which he proves over and over. I agree that he's not the most obvious anti-hero, but that's what's all the more compelling about the character. He gets you on board with him so easily, and then makes you think again about why you would ever like such a man.

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

kinda feel like the creators are more cynical abt his intentions in these moments, feels more to me like he's so on guard over any faux pas he might make (you know when he tells pete abt not being somebody nobody likes in the first episode, this is his worldview i think) that he avoids making these judgements, not because its right or out of any sense of conviction, but because he doesnt wanna get caught out when the wind changes (he is especially bullying over things like "ladies" not being smart enough overly complex storylines in commercials because he thinks these are in some way "natural" -that is, chicks ARE DUMBER- than things that seem like the manifestation of social change, something that he is told by ppl around him that he is smart enough to realise are "getting it" even if he doesnt)

― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

Granted, that wasn't always apparent in Don Draper, and through the first season especially he was definitely meant to be the audience proxy. But he's getting bigger and less relatable as the writing gets more ambitious, and I expect a lot more messing with the audience's heads in S4.

― kenan, Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

xp yeah I agree with all of this except that I find him exceptionally unlovable, that is, he never wins me over outside of his assholish conservatism and misogyny. It feels doubly insulting when smart ladeez are so won over by him. One of the problematic things I find about Betty is that she is only really able to see through him when his secret past is revealed (ie she needs this class-based disrobing in order to concretely become dissillusioned with her situation, it is not just that she sees through her reality but that the reality is now not quite as glamorous as it might remain if he were still don draper and not dick whitman)

― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

also hate that tight bristling he does when anyone even slightly crosses him

― plax (ico), Sunday, 4 April 2010 14:56 (fifteen years ago)

Skipping 92 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

I'm kind of scared, I don't remember anything about this show

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 16 July 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

We're doing a season 3 marathon Thurs-Sat w/ S3 finale on Sunday, then early 1960s themed (possibly, no menu yet) dinner, then S4 premiere.

I should use the "Happy Eating from Alaska" pamphlet cookbook I got last weekend for recipes - put together by the Ketchikan LDS branch in 1961.

― Jaq, Friday, 16 July 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

SPOILER don falls out of a window onto a giant leg

― max, Monday, November 9, 2009 10:11 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― max, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)

great. now you've spoiled me.

― Mordy, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

saw hamm in a preview of that new affleck boston gangster shit this afternoon, looked pretty doope

― ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yes. I'm on board for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECq3J7L4gw

― Number None, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

HAMM AFFLECK RENNER THE TOWN

― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

Oops. The perils of only looking at your bookmarks.

― Number None, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)

im more interested in discussing 'the town' in the context of 'mad men' tbh

― ice cr?m, Saturday, 17 July 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)

He's also gonna be in the Allen Ginsberg biopic; bet (hope) he plays Kerouac.

― dow, Monday, 19 July 2010 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

he doesn't

― plax (ico), Monday, 19 July 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

mad men is on the cover of the current cahiers du cinema

― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

happy ladies

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 July 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

lois!
http://www.styleite.com/media/crista-flanagan-playboy/

― mizzell, Monday, 19 July 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)

she de-dorks well

― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

Haha you all think the people in this show are real

― Sensational Howard (admrl), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

Has the first episode been discussed somewhere else? I think I have all the MM threads bookmarked.

Great opener, the new agency is bringing a genuinely different atmosphere to the show, it seems lighter, snappier and somehow younger. I adored Peggy in this one. Any hints as to what year we're in?

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 26 July 2010 13:33 (fifteen years ago)

SterlingCooperDraperPryce: Mad Men Season 4

― Aerosol, Monday, 26 July 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

Ta.

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, 26 July 2010 13:39 (fifteen years ago)

WTF WHO TF IS SILBY FUCK THAT OTHER THREAD - IM GONNA DO AWFUL THINGS TO IT THIS IS THE REAL MAD MENS S4 THREAD

― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

its true this thread isn't even that long and I've never heard of silby either...

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

BEST THREAD, THIS ONE, GET BACK TO YOU ONCE IVE WATCHED EP1

― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

this is where smart people post insights re s4 mad men on amc

― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

taking this kinda personally eh

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

― Aerosol, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:29 (fifteen years ago)

i started this thread MONTHS ago and now some n00b shows up a/horribly titled thread pfffft

― ice cr?m, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

oic

So, am I the only one who, when Don brought the kids back home to the empty house, said "Oh hey, was the car running when Henry pounced?", and hoped they'd be conveniently dead in the garage?

― Jaq, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

^^^totally thought this

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

but yeah lol wishful thinking

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

can't we get a mod to lock/delete the other thread or something

we can re-post all the relevant posts here

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

Betts divorces her Rockefeller supporter after realizing that Nixon's got sexier stubble.

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hooray, this is my first season watching it live! i can't wait to be annoyed by the "previously on MAD MEN" bumpers before each episode.

― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:38 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Me too! I'm going to watch it in DVR real time!

― Official Cheese-Filled Snack of NASCAR since 2002 (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

HAs this been on yet? I'm confused by international timelines.

― The great big red thing, for those who like a surprise (James Morrison), Monday, July 26, 2010 12:36 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's starting right now!!

― selected ambient worker (another al3x), Monday, July 26, 2010 2:01 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Joan: "I won't even tell anyone after it airs."

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

despite having not yet seen most of s1 and all of seasons 2-3, i am watching this. who's the cute guy in the sweater vest who works with peggy? (when i started watching, i always thought pete was a lot more interesting than don. will have to catch up asap..)

― wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Monday, July 26, 2010 2:40 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ooooooh this starts tomorrow? i thought i would carry on waiting forever.

― a hoy hoy, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:43 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tonight? omg tomorrow download fest :)

― a hoy hoy, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:43 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

HOLY SHIT @ the last 2 mins of the episode!

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:52 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― symsymsym, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:52 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who's the cute guy in the sweater vest who works with peggy?

He's a new hire. He wasn't there before.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:53 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

HOLY SHIT @ the last 2 mins of the episode!

totally

― iatee, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:54 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what was it about the last 2 min?

― wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Monday, July 26, 2010 2:58 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

squealsquealsqueal

gooood episode

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 2:59 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what was it about the last 2 min?

Don Draper, gunslinger.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:02 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, I'm psyched. Great episode.

― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Monday, July 26, 2010 3:07 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"we all know this is temporary, henry." burn!

― del griffith, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:08 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rubicon seems sorta x-filesy so far

― iatee, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:08 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh, that reminds me... Sally Draper regurgitating her sweet potatoes FTW.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:09 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm waiting on Rubicon so I can see all two hours at once.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:09 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(xpost) i don't blame her. although i liked henry's mom calling betty trash.

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 3:10 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, Henry's mom is on point.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:11 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

anti-betty zing best part of a very good episode

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:21 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ bobby really hamming it up once sally left the table, that poor kid deserves his chance to shine

― it sucks and you all love something that sucks (reddening), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:00 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that was so funny!

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2010/07/25/mad-men-a-conversation-season-4-episode-1/
^^^ wsj blogging about this, i was reading thinking it was just a review and then he's like "toril what do you think" and i wondered.. is that toril moi? in the wsj? it is! this group is going to discuss every episode..

― wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:11 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Fantastic episode. The Betty/Henry burn, Kiernan Shipka being all grown up (and main cast!), delicious bits of the all-too-infrequently-shown Don/Peggy relationship. Not enough Joan, no Pete and Trudy Time yet...but the time will come.

omg u guyz i luv this show

― silby, Monday, July 26, 2010 4:41 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah great episode!

― i'm the kind of challop that's built to last (latebloomer), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:43 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol at Harry Crane's sunburn!

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:55 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

delicious bits of the all-too-infrequently-shown Don/Peggy relationship

yes, he paid for the ham ladies' bail! quid pro quo for peggy getting him out of jail.

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:14 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that one line about two of the four test-market stores for the ham being in jewish neighborhoods = classic

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:16 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ bobby really hamming it up once sally left the table, that poor kid deserves his chance to shine

hamming it up
jon hamm
the ham fight
harry coming back looking like a ham

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:18 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ham goin ham

― i'm the kind of challop that's built to last (latebloomer), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:19 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or rather, hamm going ham

― i'm the kind of challop that's built to last (latebloomer), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:19 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hammacher schlemmer

― DâM-EdnA-FunK (get bent), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:21 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ham conspiracy

― silby, Monday, July 26, 2010 5:22 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

liked the british invasion music at the end. what song/band was it?

in any case, perfect way to underscore the emergence of the NEW DON

― i'm the kind of challop that's built to last (latebloomer), Monday, July 26, 2010 5:24 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Using Google I've discovered it was "Tobacco Road" by The Nashville Teens, who upon closer inspection seem to have been neither teens nor from Nashville.

― i'm the kind of challop that's built to last (latebloomer), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:06 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the boards of canada/of montreal of the 60s

― symsymsym, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:09 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

really love how mad men always introduces me to strange/entertaining 1960s cultural detrius

― symsymsym, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:10 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Is it weird to be proud of a TV show getting better all the time just because you happen to have been watching it from ep 1?

― I can use my expense account if I say they're whores (CONGO, M.D.), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:10 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was don's date the preacher's wife from true blood?

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, July 26, 2010 9:49 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"believe me, henry, everybody thinks this is temporary"

~ice cold~

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, July 26, 2010 10:13 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That was the True Blood girl, can't wait to see her slap Don.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, July 26, 2010 12:31 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The best thing about Mad Men is watching the women go at it like crabs in a barrel - I've said before that the way they check each other is the most interesting thing about the series.

― the phantom flâneur flinger (suzy), Monday, July 26, 2010 12:44 PM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great episode, anyway, I thought

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, July 26, 2010 1:41 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Great opener, the new agency is bringing a genuinely different atmosphere to the show, it seems lighter, snappier and somehow younger. I adored Peggy in this one. Any hints as to what year we're in?

Line of the episode: "We can charge them to my expense account if I say they're whores."

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Monday, July 26, 2010 1:48 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Thanksgiving, 1964.

― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Monday, July 26, 2010 1:48 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The pace did seem so much faster than anything in previous seasons. What a great start!

― Jaq, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:14 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's 64 and not 65? betty and dude married that quickly?

― akm, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:16 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Line of the episode: "We can charge them to my expense account if I say they're whores."

I enjoyed how no one even blinked an eye. I almost wished that Peggy had, but if anything, it's pretty obvious that she's able to hold her own now, even in that obnoxious interaction outside Don's door.

This whole Don Draper: Gunslinger thing is kind of new for him, isn't it? He's always been the guy to stick to his business principles and get things done, but he's always been modest. Or at the least, had a lack of confidence that made it seem like he's constantly proving himself. I feel like Don is somehow more adult now, although that might not mean much.

I don't know if it's sad or responsible that he's calling hookers.

― turtles all the way down (mh), Monday, July 26, 2010 2:18 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, but remember Roger and Jane also got married v. fast. And the comment about the Rockefellers when Happy had only been divorced a few months. (xpost)

― Jaq, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:20 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

better a call girl than that 25 year old friend of Jane, imo.

― Jaq, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:22 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's 64 and not 65? betty and dude married that quickly?

Betty and Henry went to Reno in Nov or Dec 63, whichever month Shut the Door technically took place, specifically so she could get divorced and then they could marry as quickly as possible. (Part of it was possibly motivated by Rockefeller campaign commitments in 64 for Henry...? Dramatically it moved the action forward asap, and now put Henry in his spot: He didn't have time to consider he was making a mistake, which he already seems to realize.)

― scottpl, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:31 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

huh i hadn't worked out the dates -- i was hoping the rockefeller defeat would play into the plot somehow. it seemed ominous to me in s3 that henry is presented as a man on his way up, considering we know all along how that turned out. by thanksgiving all that would be over with, even the general. rockefeller was gov for like forever so how he's just another guy with a job. maybe that's a little too nerdy to be intentional.

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:51 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i got a hint of meta about the scenario of this ep: a franchise that's made its mark, a new star, really can't consider itself a scrappy upstart anymore, the "mystery man" angle is played out...

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 2:55 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great episode - was dying when Sally spit out her sweet potato. and yeah great finish with Don firing his clients + self-mythologizing. also great to see Peggy so assertive/comfortable

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 3:33 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i got a hint of meta about the scenario of this ep: a franchise that's made its mark, a new star, really can't consider itself a scrappy upstart anymore, the "mystery man" angle is played out...

oh absolutely, that's a great take on it.

― ryan, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so how long before Don's into full on S&M bondage gear

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 3:52 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I figured out the date at the end when Don was talking to the WSJ guy. "A year ago, we..."

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 4:32 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was also like the 3rd or 4th time they used some civil rights milestone as a time marker

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:33 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they seemed to be trying very hard to work that in.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 4:41 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i got my year of kennedy assassination confused in my head, was thinking last year was 64 and this was only like a few weeks later.

― akm, Monday, July 26, 2010 4:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I hope they keep making references to the "second floor"and never actually show it. "we can't show you the second floor"

― ryan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think that's going to be a running thing. like the (lol) table.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe they have a storage room/locker on another floor?

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

They don't really have a second floor. They just tell people they do.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh! did they say that? i thought they had a technical reason that allowed some of them to claim a second floor.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:35 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the new agency is bringing a genuinely different atmosphere to the show, it seems lighter, snappier and somehow younger.

Did you notice that Don's new apartment is smack in the middle of Greenwich Village, at Waverly and 6th Ave? Hell of a place to be in 1964.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great how the last line was don advertising that second floor lie.

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm also wondering if ep 2 is going to start with Don catching hell for going overboard in his interview 2.0.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

They don't really have a second floor. They just tell people they do.

Right, and listen to Don at the end of the episode. "Within a year, we had taken over two floors of the Time Life building." He's reinventing himself again.

Crackling ending.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

xp Yeah

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've noticed the ties changing actually!

xposts

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:39 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought onion av rvwer dude was astute in pointing out the contrast of all the snappy new stuff to don's fusty antiquey "bachelor pad" complete with doting mother to cold shoulder.

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Come again?

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm also wondering if ep 2 is going to start with Don catching hell for going overboard in his interview 2.0.

No way. They wanted him to go overboard the first time.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so how long before Don's into full on S&M bondage gear

I think the ending implies that he's done punishing himself.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Did you notice that Don's new apartment is smack in the middle of Greenwich Village, at Waverly and 6th Ave? Hell of a place to be in 1964.

I don't know my individual streets of America in history - want to go into detail?

― a hoy hoy, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:46 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno if it was just the dramatizing of don's inner psychosis or whatever but from that episode i got the impression of a new kind of misogynistic slant more on the show's part than from the characters... like all the female roles in their social progress seemed linked to everything that don is corrupted by and succumbs to by the end

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the Village in '64: folk scene still booming post-Dylan, comedy galore (Cosby, Lenny Bruce), jazz (hello Village Vanguard) . . . really hopping then

― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this ep was kind of boring

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lots of writers too
xp

― mizzell, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:54 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought onion av rvwer dude was astute in pointing out the contrast of all the snappy new stuff to don's fusty antiquey "bachelor pad" complete with doting mother to cold shoulder.

first shot of interior of Don's apt prompted my wife to note: "Don sure loves living in the Depression"

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:54 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and maybe he'll hang out with jane jacobs in the village

― mizzell, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the Village in '64: folk scene still booming post-Dylan, comedy galore (Cosby, Lenny Bruce), jazz (hello Village Vanguard) . . . really hopping then

And right around the corner from Andy Warhol and the Velvet Underground, artists galore, and on and on. The Village was the center of the American cultural universe in the 60's.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Right, and listen to Don at the end of the episode. "Within a year, we had taken over two floors of the Time Life building." He's reinventing himself again.

could've sworn Don went even farther and said THREE floors

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 6:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

could've sworn Don went even farther and said THREE floors

Nah. I downloaded it, and just reviewed. He just says two. Which is lie enough, really.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 6:58 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was really struck by how dark the cinematography/lighting was in the don's bachelor pad scenes. (though the emotional effect/link they were going felt just-this-side of too-obvious.) (maybe i just got used to mad men being kinda bright and snazzy even during the nighttime scenes.)

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:12 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I realized a moment ago that I should have said "The Village was the center of the American COUNTERcultural universe in the 60's."

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:20 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wasnt it really dark in the restaurant on his date too? like when she gets up to show him her dress?

agree that this ep was kinda boring...idk i might not care abt this show anymore, too?

― johnny crunch, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:21 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like when she gets up to show him her dress?

furry boobs are never a good look

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 7:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nice detail I just noticed: when Don slams the door at the end of the ep, you can see the whole cheap makeshift wall shake.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:35 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I used to get this from mininova or ninjavideo. Now that both are kaput, I'm lost. Where are dudes getting this?

― Ron Raper, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:44 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

P1r4t3 b4y

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://watch-series.com/

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 7:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eztv

all mad men episodes are 'boring' except the lawnmower one. stop being a child.

is it me or did don's date look remarkably like jan jones?

― a hoy hoy, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just you?

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 7:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah def going with "just you" on that one.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 7:52 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is it me or did don's date look remarkably like jan jones?

I got that too. I kept thinking, 'Enough with the blonde society chicks! Go find Midge again - she's probably your neighbor.'

― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Monday, July 26, 2010 7:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ha, for real. I miss Midge.

― kenan, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

don's bachelor pad scenes. (though the emotional effect/link they were going felt just-this-side of too-obvious.)

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 26 July 2010 20:12 (57 minutes ago)

haha i always feel a little like "too-obvious" is this constant minor personal game to play with mad men (partly to do w/ trying to self-limit how much of a 60s retro twerp you're unconsciously being too i guess) -- but yeah when they brought in the s&m femme-control-issues don development i thought that was a little broad and lol, though effective

and also really is that stuff any less obvious than don's "the boy behind bars" successful ad metaphor, or the wooden leg of korean loss or whatever

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

any MORE obvious rather, soz

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what about the wooden leg?
i thought it was really weird no one mentioned Don's being in the war at all after that thing with the leg.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the wooden leg of Korean loss was great I thought, worked on a few different levels (set-up for Sterling joke, highlights the cruelty/missed opportunity of Don's denials at the interview, etc.)

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like Don could've swapped war stories with the guy except OH SHIT NO HE COULDN'T lol

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i guess (and esp in comparison to the braggin 2nd interview later) the wooden leg is like the sudden dick whitman reminder in that scene; maybe also in its stumble representing the awkwardness/emotional disabliity of the current don situation - also in roger's reaction the callousness of the backlash to come, i dunno

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i read it like this: sterling cracks some gruesome jokes about it cos that's what soldiers do, and it keeps anyone from getting weepy about it, plus since he was in "the big one" he gets to be a dick to korea vets (remember the dinner scene). don doesn't say anything cos he's not much of a soldier and doesn't have the right thing to say. pete is a blueblood dickhead so he gladhands the guy.

that reminds me, when is joan's useless hub going to die in vietnam?

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

highlights the cruelty/missed opportunity of Don's denials at the interview, etc.)

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:26 (1 minute ago)

i get the impression (from this and other comments) ppl weren't too sympathetic to don before he switches it up at the end? i kind of saw the denouement as him falling to other people's level - not that he's an angel to begin with but still he stood for nobler things than the changing tide around him. i feel the awful brash carelessness of his pitch to the family swimsuit company at the end bears this out

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and how he ends up playing the same trashy game as peggy's staged ham fight after dresssing her down for it earlier - great scene with her saying the image of the company's "where he left it" when he hadn't really done anything wrong in the first place originally

― r|t|c, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...though it do have to remind myself that dick whitman's time in korea wasn't a complete fraud -- he did get shelled for chrissake, that's plenty real.

xp lol i kept myself up half the night with this imagined scenario where don does a (tm) off-the-cuff pitch and gets the swimsuit dudes to get over their virgin-whore problems and just sell the bikinis to the fully alive american woman. or something. with joan as prop, humiliatingly.

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but no, he just bails on the whole thing...

i have to say if this whole season is about don draper just letting shit rip, bro!!! i'm going to be a mite dissappointed

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that reminds me, when is joan's useless hub going to die in vietnam?

yeah looking forward to this episode lol

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sympathy for Don from the viewers here always seems muted/clouded by other things, unless I'm misreading people...? Sometimes he seems noble and creative and you wanna root for him, other times he's a complete asshole. As far as the denouement goes I didn't see him firing a client (!) as being sinking to others' level, obviously that was something only Don would do and everyone else at the agency was mortified by it. But it was immediately followed by him heeding everyone's instructions to clean up his mess and take control. And it's usually pretty exciting to watch Don take control.

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:41 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Don firing the client and doing the second interview are both part of him exerting control over the image of the company - but the former is rooted in the narcissism of his creativity, and the latter in his pragmatism/need to please his father figures

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Don "pitching" a fit when the swimsuit guys didn't like his concept was some bush league antics there. they were very clear about what they wanted and without any apparently research he decided that they were doomed if they didn't all ignore everything they'd just said the day before.
i saw it as a creative failure, really - that he couldn't manage to muster anything within the parameters they'd laid out - or even had any sort of back-up plan when he decided he knew better than the client.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:48 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, losing your shit at a client like that Is Not Done, right? that's kind of creative, in a way...

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:49 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he didn't just fail, he told them to TAKE THEIR THINGS AND GET OUT. made a sandwich out of the hand that feeds, basically

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:51 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've heard of firing clients before, but never for not agreeing on creative direction. that was indeed pure narcissism pretty much.

xpost - ha ha exactly

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:53 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Didn't realise I'd missed this show until I watched this episode.

Given their reliance on Lucky Strike + the business clearly not doing that well, not sure how long Don Draper the primadonna is going to last.

― Matt DC, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:54 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Or going to be allowed to last anyway.

― Matt DC, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:54 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if they're going to pay you either way - you do what you're asked and take the money. if you're going to blow off everything they said they stand for/wanted - you better have a back-up plan, mister.

i think Don was taking out his frustrations on anyone he could. if he'd been in a better headspace he might have stuck to the plan the client had laid out.

xpost - was wondering that too. i thought it was pretty obv that the second interview was to try to make up for blowing his top there.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, July 26, 2010 8:56 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The former is Don doing what he wanted to do to Betty. The client meeting started with the whole, can I put my foot on your coffee table and Sterling saying 'sure, treat this place like your living room' etc. Don's "get out of here, get your things and leave" could have been word for word a blow-up with Betty at the house.

― scottpl, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:59 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Worth noting: guy puts his feet up, "make yourself at home"-- don's anger is surely partially directed at Betty and new husband

― ryan, Monday, July 26, 2010 8:59 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

huh i didn't even put that together. duh.

― goole, Monday, July 26, 2010 9:00 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sounds like they also have staffing issues...? like part of the reason he didn't bother coming up with any backup plan was because he didn't have Sal and co. to rely on and all he had was this one thing he knew would work if they would just accept it.

good pts about Betty/domestic scene being mirrored in the workplace

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, July 26, 2010 9:00 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Crap. xpost!

― ryan, Monday, July 26, 2010 9:00 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So, yeah, it's him taking bck control but he took control of the office via WSJ; he became determined to take eventual control in his personal life with the clients, presumably.

― scottpl, Monday, July 26, 2010 9:01 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sal didn't really come up with ideas, right? he just did the art. the new guy who hangs out with peggy is his replacement.
but they mentioned not having the staff to do what they could do at the old sterling cooper.

― mizzell, Monday, July 26, 2010 9:04 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

hmmm wow that's kinda more obnoxious-looking than I anticipated sorry

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

needs more blue.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

anyways - i like the other thread title better. a much more attention grabbing headline.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

needed more zazz

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

let the people decide

WHICH MAD MEN S4 THREAD YOU LIEK BETTER??

― Aerosol, Monday, 26 July 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

otm on zazz - almost used that word myself.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 July 2010 21:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-9.11.55-AM.png
http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-9.12.06-AM.png

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)

So they did take Don's advice, but they took it elsewhere.

― kenan, Monday, 26 July 2010 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

lol

well the actual campaign isn't quite as risque as Don's (legs crossed instead of parted, no suggestive 'CENSORED!' black bar across the top, etc.)

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

that is a ridiculously modern looking image they used for the fictional ad, btw.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, totally American Apparel.

― kenan, Monday, 26 July 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

I thought that too, that it looks at least late 70s... also where is model's left arm...?

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

Except for the camel case in the text, which seems an especially odd choice given that the logo is all lowercase.

― kenan, Monday, 26 July 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.theawl.com/2010/07/footnotes-of-mad-men-the-bikini-the-ham-the-firm-and-his-hooker

― the tape store called... (cozen), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol

― Moshy Star (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 July 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

I was going to lock the other thread and keep the older and longer thread but then I saw ice cr?m's whiney little Suggest Ban rampage and changed my mind.

― Matt DC, Monday, 26 July 2010 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

This thread has been locked by an administrator

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.