Football Manager 2010

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Who has it apart from Sam & I?

It's far superior to CM2010 (despite the fact i paid nothing for CM2010 apart from the transaction fee in a Radiohead pay what you like type deal)

dude i just started a thread :(

asked mods to delete mine

I bought Dudu as a promising 17 y/o and he ruptured somethin in his first game and is out all season. Knew I should have spunked all my money on Rodwell before becomes the best player in the game instead. :S

Dudu? Wikipedia has six different footballers called that, plus one king.

Are Madrid skint after their summer spending? Also Chelsea have a transfer ban lol

yeah, chelsea transfer ban made me lol. dunno about madrid. first day i got it i was messing about w/ barca and it came up with a bunch of loan shit i had to start paying off, so real presumably is realistic enough on a giant 'just ignore the bank manager' scale.

i just reloaded cm4 with patches etc.

Liverpool has loans to the bank too. But they always do in FM, so its impossible to make a profit unless you sell players. Its not like the old days when you could get players to sign really low wage contracts lol

Of course there's no chance of a new stadium on the horizon so it's quite realistic on that front.

yeah realism is a bitch

Kuyt is regarded as a quality player. And Man City keep trying to sign him and benny noon

kind of glad they've taken the inevitable downfall into consideration except man city superpwoer lols.

they just offered me 35m for arsh. tried asking them to come back with a figure that would buy me messi but alas, they suck at being rich.

Dudu? Wikipedia has six different footballers called that, plus one king.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 22:38 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Photos/dudu.jpg?w=3ba82392

http://i38.tinypic.com/n3vjgz.jpg
you're doing it again

argh. whoever it was on ilx who told me to use dropbox as an easy way to put images on the internet LIED.

to be fair, it may well be me

i guess the resident pfunk child will be the judge of this.

i dunno what you guys are on about

can you see the dudu picture a couple posts upthread?

the tension is literally unbearable

I'm still in the relatively early stages of my FM09 game (if anyone but me counts 2015 with three Champions League wins under my belt as relatively early). Is 2010 better enough to be worth forsaking that?

FM09 was a shockingly horrible game and FM10 is a masterpiece. That said I only played FM09 pre-1000updates.

a smaller dudu that should load:

http://burythehammer.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/dudu.jpg?w=510&h=382

well that clears that up

xxpost shockingly horrible how? I am liking it except that all of the newly generated players are rubbish and everyone plays until they're about 40, which is advantageous because a gameworld of all newly generated players is going to be rubbish.

just obvious bugs in game (team couldnt defend no matter how you played, no-one offered more than a fiver for my players but babel was sold for like 70m is what i remember straight off)

no i couldnt see a pic earlier.

whoever it was on ilx who told me to use dropbox as an easy way to put images on the internet LIED.

hey it's excellent! ur doin it rong

btw who the fuck signed babel for 70 million?

barcelona. told you it was bullshit.

in my game Babel went to Villarreal for a few pennies so I guess the update is a bit better. Transfer system is a bit rubbish, tho. Don't appreciate being stuck with pretty good players who aren't quite good enough for me for their whole contract, and then losing them on a free because no one ever wanted to buy them (despite high profile loan spells). In fact I can't remember when I last got an offer for a player. After much tinkering I did manage to get a defence that works and an attack that works (the latter was my big problem, 0-0 draw after 0-0 draw ffs), but still I guess I'll tire of it and head to 2010 soon.

lol voronin

serves you right for going rangers merdeyeux

re: enke - morbidly pondering whether to buy him on fm10. he can be got on a free and is (was?) better than almunia...

maybe i should just save my pennies and buy an alive/properly awes keep

Sold Bendtner, Senderos, Djourou, Diaby, Almunia, Fabianski and a bunch of kids; bought Gourcuff, Enke (rip), a 16 year old goalie I am trying to turn into Dino Zoff but he is currently letting in goals for fun considering he is 16, and Gamberini plus the best kids available (but they have got fucking expensive ;_; goodbye the days of totally exploiting the system, cheers chelsea.)

Still can't figure out a winning formation and my players hate me.

well you're 16 with no qualifications, tbf. i think the programmers recognised this as a 'thing' in or about 2003.

"you're"? i'm pretty certain i'm not 16 and have qualifications.

this dude had like the stats of almunia when i bought him at 15, by 20 he should be one of the best in the world.

eh sorry if 'you're' isn't the correct abbreviation or whatever of 'you are'. think it is.

lol at ur (better?) football management qualifications, you should write to Eidos to inform them, it might make it easier :p

once went unbeaten 2 seasons in a row. wenger can suck it :P

/need-a-life

i've won the league in my first season. at spurs.

daaamn.

ok, it was in cm4 but i stand over it.

Sold Bendtner

I'm kinda sad that in my FM09 game I sold Bendtner (YEAH I'M ARSENAL) back to Copenhagen assuming it'd just be a little transition place for him before going onto better things, but despite early interest from Bayern he's still there three years later. :'(

altho I guess I should go to the FM09 thread and talk about this shit to myself. :'(

i sold him to real for 15m. just lost 4-0 in the cl qualifying, don't think i'm gonna make it :(

i really suck at this game.

as stated, i've only just reloaded my beloved cm4 but the good reports i'm getting about this are making me wonder if i should invest? howa re you finding it, inability to win trophies with the mighty arsenal aside?

most realistic management simulator i've ever played. everything feels like they've done it properly, from tactics to transfers to fear of the sack etc. only thing left is rape allegation news stories.

i am really fucking enjoying it, a lot more so than the past couple. i just can't wait till i have figured it out and don't suck at it.

rafa is still there in 2016, i owe it to the club to take it. they've not sacked him yet, they have torres still, plus alexis sanchez and erm....marc pierre gignac

jeez rafa out already

Has a real life manager ever got a touchline ban for saying a goal shouldn't have been disallowed? f u fa.

it's the way you tell em

fucking rafa signed a new contract despite repeated speculation he wasn't going to, and me getting touted as successor. i won the europa and finished 6th tho, and i have won 5/6 games so far this season (having had villa, arsenal and pool away as first three games!). i basically think i can win the league or at least get into the cl and the best part is........RAFA loaned me some 15m flop they had called Marcus Berg, for the entire season, for 2m, and he has scored 5 in 5. angel di maria is basically the best player in this game btw...he's on 8.1 average, 6 goals in 6 games, 4 assists, 4 motms.

i have a new midfield lynchpin too.....JORGE JESUS. makes for some interesting commentary, "the referee wants to talk to jesus" or "jesus has had a poor game, riddled with mistakes". surely can get jesus involved with a cross somehow

you were used bro

jesus up for the cross but got nailed

marcus berg as in the swede who plays for psv iirc? that dude is going to grow up to be a beast.

yeah he actually has been linked with Liverpool IRL hasn't he? He's just turned 30. Banging in the goals. 9 in 9 now.

i assume you mean 30 on the game considering he was the star of the u21 wc?

fair assumption u clown u

"• In Dortmund, meanwhile, there was anger squared on the touchline. Both managers were deeply upset with the erratic performance of the referee Wolfgang Stark in the aftermath of Borussia's 1-1 draw with Hoffenheim."

From Rafa Honigstein's latest Guardian Bundesliga review. Anyone who's managed a Bundesliga club in FM10 will see the truth of this.

And as for Tommy Hill? Don't get me started!!!

might treat myself to an afternoon of this once I get this job app finished...

fuckin lost the Premier League on the last day of the season with my FM06 Burnley team. For the second time in three years. Fuck you, seven games in eighteen days. At least my Euro Cup and FA Cup wins mean that I finally have more than two league cups to show for my time with them.

i did that last season w/ real although that was terrible choking on apart of me playing my kids with an arrogant 9 point lead over barca. how i've not been fired i'll never know. oh yeah, not reality.

also ordered fm11

yeah the fixture congestion stuff can be mental. i also find it really irritating when you're in europe and end up with 5 games less than everyone else played, and that weird bug in the game whereby you play on sundays and mondays practically every fucking week.

4 points clear at the top after 17 games. THIS IS THE YEAR. never even been in cl before but I signed a Portuguese guy who has the same name as that manager, Jorge Jesus, and he's shored up my midfield a lot. Also Derdiyok is justifying me paying 18m for him. He had a decent first season but this year has got 12 goals in 15 games, before breaking his wrist. Di Maria still unholy.

My current team:

GK-Akinfeev
DR-Michel Morganella (800k when I was in the Championship, amazing player)
DC-Alex Pearce
DC-Magnus Troest
DL-Peter Heiji (Dutch guy I have on loan, DL has been a problem position but he's doing well)
DMC-Jorge Jesus
DMC-Ruben De La Red
AML-Des Jones (Irish lad I got off Bohemians for 50k when he was 16, he's absolutely amazing.)
AMC-Angel Di Maria (marked as a playmaker)
AMR-Milos Krasic (Gets better even as he ages, gets about 20 assists a season)
ST-Erin Derdiyok

Subs:
ST-Marcus Berg (having a quiet time after a good start)
AMRLC-Esteban Granero (he was a bargain and looks amazing, can be a good impact sub but hasn't really been the player I hoped.)
AMC/FC-Marquinhos (V inconsistent but good for cover)
DC/DMC-Kamil Zayatte (Servant to the club)
DRL-Gabin Fayet (Decent youth)
ST-Anthony Wall (Youth guy who's been coming through for way too long, probably amazing as all the big clubs want him but I can't settle him into the team despite giving him lots of chances.)
AMC/FC-David Lee (see above)

I also just signed Sandro for 8m, which I think will be the extra bit of momentum that gets me through the season. Am in League Cup semi against Huddersfield, it's a Reading takeover.

I'm at a point where my team plays wonderfully against lesser opposition and fails to perform at all against teams equal to them or better. We're blowing out Premier Leagues teams under 10th place 5-0, 6-0 and holding onto the ball 60-65% of the time, but losing to Liverpool 2-0 with only 35% of possession. Any idea how to fix that? Is it a motivation issue? They're totally capable of beating pretty much anyone but it's like they just don't give a fuck unless they know they can score several goals.

Otherwise, signed Dzeko at the start of the season and he scored a hat-trick in his first match. So far, 12 goals in 10 appearances in the league and he's scoring like crazy internationally as well.

my team is the opposite, i dick all the big teams but just lost 1-0 at home to sunderland who are 19th. first defeat at home all season. i'm still 4 points clear at the top tho.

have you tried setting up more negatively against the big sides? you often get cunted away from home if you try and attack, it's good to have a defensive lineup sometimes. i find you can only attack away from home and win against any half decent side if your team is totally brimming with confidence, say at the start of the season.

and you can still win 2 or 3 nil away with a defensive set up.

Home/away doesn't seem to matter much. I have them set to counter-attack away from home against any team with a solid defense. All the fluid ball movement I see in most matches just goes away and they can't pass, can't shoot, can't tackle (even the assman is telling me this during the match). We're playing Man U in the League Cup in a week after playing a string of just-promoted teams in the Premier. I just know the whole team is going to forget what to do with the ball after scoring 14 goals (and not conceding) over the past two weeks.

I feel like your team is facing standard complacency. Is this the opposite of that? Then again, I am managing Arsenal and maybe the game developers just really know how to model this shit.

i had that exact thing for years where a game against the big sides just equated to a loss, but a lot of it was them scoring 2 in the last 20 mins. do you reckon you have good enough players to beat them?

Yeah, definitely the players are there. I wasn't having this problem in the previous season (won the league only having lost once at Old Trafford). It's probably some tactical problem that I'm not seeing. Or some other motivational issue (like they're too pressured to perform well against strong teams?). How did you end up overcoming it? A handful of my players now are concerned that we're underperforming and will 'strive to help the team' do better or something. Well, stop talking about it and just perform better you idiots.

did you enter your name as martin jol?

My solution I think was just upgrading the team slowly. I think I've really noticed biggest improvements since I got Akinfeev in goals, he is amazing. World class keeper helps you to beat the big teams a lot.

I agree with Ronan when it comes to a more balanced approach against big teams. Something as simple as making sure your full backs are set to fullback-defend can be v. important, especially if you have arshavin-esque wingers who never defend and want to balance it out. Also it doesn't hurt to make little changes they aren't expecting (switch wingers, instead of playing two centre forwards drop 1 creative type in the hole etc.) as I think the game relies a lot on what you did in yr previous match for opposition tactics.

Yeah otm. One thing I've noticed is that the more tweaks you have in your formation for various scenarios the better. Eg I'll play my dmcs in front of the back four often but at home or chasing a game I might move them both into centre mid, or take one off for a striker. Having lots of options like this is good and does salvage you points,

Anyone sussed out the different roles for players? I never can be sure whether my striker or strikers are poachers, complete forwards etc ecc.

Same with my midfielders, I have them as standard central mids but the description of that suggests if they're a better player you should have them as box to box or ballwinner.

Ballwinner is obv for yr def mid (change it to defend for away games and whatevertheotheroneis for home games).
Box to Box is yr Kakas and Gerrards - i.e. as much as about physical attributes and determination as anything. Playmakers are ones more suited to sitting back and running the game, i.e. good on passing and creativity.

Poachers and Advanced Forwards are there for finishing&heading ability alone really. Complete Forwards seems to be best with those with an all round game. Deep-Lying Forwards for those who are fast but not much else (i.e. if I play Walcott up front, he can stay high up the field luring out slow defenders). Target men is super obvious. Treq is for your Totti's.

Yeah all those things are like what I figured, seem like common sense. But it's hard to be sure you know. EG Sandro is a DMC and has the stats for ballwinner, but also is good enough for box to box, he can attack, dribble etc.

Same with the strikers, I'd have thought Walcott would be good as poacher cos he has pace and part of the poacher description talks about breaking the offside trap. I sort of think of Michael Owen style players, quick and with a decent finish.

Complete forward is like.....I assume that's the ideal for when you have a really good striker based on the description, or is it just another equal potential role?

And target man also presents probs, cos like I have a big lad up front doesn't necessarily mean I want the team to start spooning the ball up to him at every opportunity. Is calling the individual player target man what ensures you don't do this, as opposed to making him a target man in "team instructions"?

i think so yeah. also set passing to shorter.

yeah i do my passing mostly via the individuals so most are on short. i'm 8 points clear at the top now towards end of feb!

kudos. i think i have given up on my game but it was only a stopgap before fm11. valencia reluctantly agreed to sell me a 31 y/o villa for 5m as my last act but i couldn't be bothered figuring out where to fit him, pato, benzema, lukaku and an awes regeme called alvarez

yeah not sure what is left to do if i win the league, it sort of eliminates the need to go to a bigger club besides reading. i guess a tilt at the cl would be nice. i would love to win the league having not broken the top four yet, old school!

ubeaten? not cheating like kerr?

how does Kerr cheat?

(also what is the point?)

no i'm not unbeaten! never said that. last three games, i had an eight point lead and it's now cut down to three, with chelsea in second. last three games, west ham and man u away, chelsea at home!

squeaky bum time :)

Nah I meant as something to achieve- try going unbeaten.

Kerr cheats by saving before matches and going back if he loses iirc.

See I can understand saving before big boss battles in RPGs but it seems really wrong in a management sim.

(& I occasionally use ammo, weapons, etc. cheats in games so I'm not exactly morally opposed to it)

So Chelsea draw their third last game and I'm away to West Ham with a chance to go 5 points clear with two games left. I'm all over them for the entire game then they score a header in the 76th minute to go 1-0 up. Double substitution and I put two up front and go crazily attacking. Marcus Berg, out of favour for 2/3 months, scores to equalise in the 86th minute with a 35 yard shot. Then in the fourth minute of four added on minutes, Milos Krasic runs clear and puts it straight at the keeper, only for Berg to convert the rebound!

It is of course only a computer game.

the above is why cheating is stupid

i have done this occasionally, but i try to apply some sort of moral code to it i.e. only reload once, only do this against better teams at home or whatever xp

champions!

CONGRATULATIONS TO READING AND THEIR YOUNG MANAGER ON THIS FANTASTIC ACHIEVEMENT!

Added bonus, my final game is against Man U and I can stop them getting into the CL. No alcohol will be consumed by the players until we've finished the job.

irl I always save before interviews then go back if I fuck it up

FUCK YOU SHEFFIELD UNITED TONY FUCKING ADAMS YOU'RE HAVING A LAUGH I COULD'VE SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF ME OWN FANS WHEN YOU STARTED FLUTTERING YR EYELASHES I HOPE YOU GO DOWN TONY BASTARD ADAMS JESUS WEPT

feel so used

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