criterion collection 51-75 POLL

cleo

oof tougher list

passion of the joan of arc. this movie destroys me.

have seen surprisingly few of these. will vote for the sewers of vienna.

orpheus

except wtf at the orphic trilogy being one option!!!1 "testament of a poet" sucks balls so i guess i'll go with vagabond.

the third man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be the freak that voted for carnival of souls kthxbye

joan of arc

chasing amy

the 3rd man then rushmore then 4 all mankind then night porter then le million

Sanjuro

third man

worst is either chasing amy or testament of orpheus

These are all so good.

52 YOJIMBO Akira Kurosawa JAPAN 1961
62 THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC Carl Th. Dreyer FRANCE 1928
63 CARNIVAL OF SOULS Herk Harvey UNITED STATES 1962
65 RUSHMORE Wes Anderson UNITED STATES 1998
70 THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST Martin Scorsese UNITED STATES 1988
73 CLÉO FROM 5 TO 7 Agnès Varda FRANCE 1962

out of what i've seen it's between rushmore, the third man, last temptation, or 39 steps. probably really between the first two. i'd feel weird voting for something over the third man, but i think rushmore is really the best film of its kind.

I'll rep for The Unbearable LIghtness of Being and the overlong Charade.

passion of joan of arc... this movie still knocks me on my ass.

Brazil. It's my favorite movie ever, though there are plenty of great, great films on this list.

The Third Man, but wow, some amazing choices there.

can't imagine much being better than the 3rd man.

The Third Man, easy, followed by Brazil, Le Million, Rushmore and Cleo in a tie.

Cleo really is incredible.

But, you know what, fuck it, I'm going with Life of Brian.

The Third Man which I only just saw for the first time pretty recently.

cleo used to be one of my favorite films ever, but i watched it again recently and it didn't stand up to some of the other things on this list... but the "sans tu(?)" song scene is so incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7MN7kJ0uy0

ive prob seen the third man more than any other movie so i guess i'll vote that

rushmore pretty special tho, tbh

I'm finding it basically impossible to choose between Joan of Arc and Cleo.

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A list of films that are pretty unfuckable with! I voted "Brazil", it's one of my faviourite ever films.

flipped a coin and gave it to Joan

I gave a big ol' vote to the runt of the litter -- Carnival of Souls!

i voted joan, but i don't think carnival is a bad vote. it's a pretty amazing movie.

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Close one!

I am strangely disappointed that Joan of Arc didn't win.

Third Man is great, no doubt, but...

what cunts gave fucking Chasing Amy two votes?

CHASING AMY - 2

THE MAGIC FLUTE - 0
LE MILLION - 0
YOJIMBO - 0
AUTUMN SONATA - 0

wtf guys

yojimbo is the only one of those goose-eggs that disappoints personally, though magic flute and le million may well be the best mozart adaptations and french screwballs of their time for all I know

and the 2 for carnival of souls is even more baffling than voting chasing amy, imo

carnival of souls was my favorite movie for years! sure, it's far from technically perfect, but that's part of the fascination for me. it's so effective at producing its dreamlike effects out of thin air, or for a nickel, which I believe was the movie's budget. it's not just a shallow shocker, it really rolls up its sleeves and gets at the madness, alienation, sexual frustration, the fear of mortality behind the horror show.

the ending is so powerful + poetic. you could watch the final scenes and say, "cheapo twilight zone ripoff with some wooden actors, great", but I look at it like, there's a doctor, a priest, and a cop confronting the mystery of death. religion, science, the law, they can't save you, welcome to the abyssss, that's some existential shit right there.

I *love* The Magic Flute but I couldn't rate it above The Passion of Joan of Arc, there's something so pure and absolute about the performances in that; also, as an adaptation of another artwork "The Magic Flute" doesn't feel all that freestanding- to me, for an adaptation to truly ascend to this, er, poll-winner level it has to step free from its source a bit more (so, say, Kurosawa's "Ran" achieves its greatness by its strategic distance from "King Lear").

Carnival of Souls may be one of the greatest American horror films from the pre-Night of the Living Dead, era, and prefigures that one too.

man, i don't know if i'm gonna make it through the rest of this magic flute

thats what she said

OK, just finished this 25. Here's my top 10 and bottom 5. Again, based solely on personal preference.

1. Charade
2. Monty Python's Life Of Brian
3. Vagabond
4. Brazil
5. Yojimbo
6. Rushmore
7. Carnival Of Souls
8. Chasing Amy
9. For All Mankind
10. Peeping Tom

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21. The Unbearable Lightness Of Being
22. The Orphic Trilogy I: The Blood Of A Poet
23. The Night Porter
24. The Magic Flute
25. The Orphic Triology III: Testment Of Orpheus

I honestly can't imagine what type of person sits around and rewatches their Criterion box set of the Orphic Trilogy

I can't imagine anyone willingly sitting through Chasing Amy.

what type of person sits around and rewatches their Criterion box set of the Orphic Trilogy

Probably the folx who will be on line for the Bruce Willis-Tracy Morgan cop comedy

Yeah, i was asking for those zings. The first five K-Smith movies are kind of dear to my heart since they came out in that time I was stuck in Floriduh from aged 14 to 21. So, yeah, I'm gonna like them more than The Magic Flute. I'm not gonna lie to y'all.

I actually just re-watched Chasing Amy for the first time as an adult, and could really see all its faults for the first time (ugh, the fucking soundtrack is the worst), but there's some pretty amazing bits in there too.

Not really meant as a zing. I get it, different strokes for different folks. Just really hate Kevin Smith's contributions to cinema is all. I'd rather sit through the two Criterion'd Michael Bay movies a dozen times than see anything else by KS get added to the collection.

Yeah, I don't really see K-Smith as a good director, just a gifted dialogue writer with a camera (which is why I also like early Linklater stuff, etc). Almost like a foul-mouthed playwright who uses movies aimed at 17-year-olds as his medium. I mean, comparing a Kevin Smith movie to a real movie is like comparing the Watchmen to Pynchon. You're OMG FRONTING if you say "it's one of the best novels of the 20th century," so enjoy it for the pulpy fun it is.

Some more riffs:
•For All Mankind is the type of jam that Blu-Ray is made for. I wish I had a bigger TV
•The Night Porter is maybe the most boring "erotic" movie I've ever seen.
•Carnival Of Souls is the move, and I totally wish I had some cult movie filmed in my hometown that I could obsess about (this one was filmed in Lawrence, KS)
•I wasn't expecting Rushmore to hold up, but it blew me away just like it did in 1998.
•I'm real sad I never paid attention to Agnès Varda, because her stuff is incredible.

I'm no Mozart stan, but I find The Magic Flute quite delightful.

I mean, I'm gonna file The Magic Flute in the "idgi" pile. I was never really the biggest fan of classical music, opera, Bergman, or "delightful," so there's really not a whole lot in there for me

comparing a Kevin Smith movie to a real movie is like comparing the Watchmen to Pynchon

So when you're ranking these out, you're ranking KS against his own stuff/milieu rather than actually ranking him against obvious cinematic greats, et al?

again, when i'm ranking, it's just personal preference.

the 4 all mankind blu-ray is ~amazing~