greenberg noah baumbach ben stiller co-plotted by jennifer jason leigh new music by james murphy

what is the deal with this--will this be good

http://www.apple.com/trailers/focus_features/greenberg/

Someone alert dabug -- Brie Larson is in this.

ok give me his number and i'll call him

was hoping it would be a biopic about hank greenberg

noah b. is one of my secret boyfriends. i will see this the day it comes out.

i dig greta gerwig. this will b good 4 her career.

ben stiller seems too old to play this character

we will learn something about lyfe by the end of this movie

James Murphy just walking by texting in the background of the party scene at the start of the trailer.

Honest to goodness, I swear when I read the title of this thread I thought it was a joke-name (in the started by section) someone had made up.

Liking the look of this. My feelings are mixed as to how the story will play out, but the dialogue in the trailer is sharp "I hope I die before I meet any of you at a job interview."

<3 baumbach
jbr, i think you will also like this movie :)

I didn't realize Mark Duplass was in this, I was wondering if he was going to make a move to bigger movies, and this is definitely a bigger movie for him. He was really good in Humpday, Baghead and the Puffy Chair.

Oh duh Gerwig was in Baghead too.

So this is basically the biggest mumblecore movie then.

it's the co-optation of mumblecore, man!

duplass bros are doin that terrible looking movie w/ john c reilly & jonah hill -- there was a preview for it before this

anyway, this was pretty good. at least a ton better than margot at the wedding. thought stiller did a v. nice job w/ it

If I see this and like it, it will be the first time that's happened with Baumbach.

i agree w/ that sentiment, im no squid & whale fan either

Despite the across-the-board solid acting, didn't like this much at all. I didn't feel the slightest bit engaged by Greenberg as a character - he alternated from being totally inert to these too-broad displays of cluelessness (letter-writing, party freakout). Would have much preferred a whole movie about Gerwig's character.

so narrowly dodged having to see this last night... whew

exactly what didnt u like, Whiney?

THE TABLES HAVE TURNED

kind into the idea of seeing this movie, totally h8 a greenberg type dude

> http://www.theawl.com/2010/03/flicked-off-greenberg-or-mean-is-the-new-sad <

tried to watch kicking and screaming the other nite, was too much to ask to endure those intolerable people AND their pukey dress sense, lasted like 20 mins

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lol fattay wingtips go here >

the way those boys in kicking in screaming dress was totally my crush archetype when i was like fourteen.

h8 u, ice cr?m

I wanted her on the phone with Gina, her bro-ette and WAILING OUT HER SOCKETS ABOUT that damaged Jew fuck, that arrogant prick, that tiny-dicked psycho.

so narrowly dodged having to see this last night... whew

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, March 28, 2010 10:24 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

exactly what didnt u like, Whiney?

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:05 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i told you, i DODGED having to see it. shit looks like a mix of wes anderson's most precious moments, juno's most clueless moments and a sad man way too old to be reading stereogum

so itd be like looking in a mirror for 2 hours huh

nah, theres todd solondz movies for that

http://img208.yfrog.com/img208/6774/df1g.jpg

ha

Yeah about 1/4 of the audience I saw it had walked out by the hour mark.

ha whered you find that johnny

hipster antisemitism imo

on sum other msg borad

i dont really understand what a walkout-er assumed it would be when they bought a ticket tbh

ben stiller manchild comedy probably?

we will learn something about lyfe by the end of this movie

― velko, Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:32 PM (4 months ago)

• jewish baseball player romantic comedy

• art criticism conspiracy thriller

documentary abt environmentally sustainable la suburbs

lol @ whiney deciding he hates it before he sees it

i don't think that's unreasonable

is bragging about not having seen a movie a new ilx fad

for most ppl its not unreasonable, but this is the dude who hated adventureland because they listened to big star

is bragging about not having seen a movie a new ilx fad

― iatee, Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is confined to ilx now?

for most ppl its not unreasonable, but this is the dude who hated adventureland because they listened to big star

― deej khalifa (deej), Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:42 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark

i'm not trying to say that whiney isn't a horrible person, just that greenberg looks like ass

this thread is full of fucking awful challopsy awfulheads. i loved this movie.

I thought it was pretty good, not as good as Squid, better than Kicking and Screaming, wish it resolved a little better. Acting was great.

ok lol I just remembered stiller had that norm macdonald in dirty work thing of making notes to self with a tape recorder what a stupid fucking movie

I thought his costar was quirky in the most boring way.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

the chick? i dont think 'quirky' is what they were going for

horseshoe i feel like you probably wouldnt like it

some people in this thread said they would've rather seen a movie that concentrated on the Florence character but im not so sure about that - i dont think the movie understood her as well as it did Greenberg, she's pretty thinly drawn

I liked this movie. The awkward oral sex scene, that was painful . . .

I found the party freakout to be hilarious to a point.

I thought his costar was quirky in the most boring way.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

the chick? i dont think 'quirky' is what they were going for

i was thinking this was re: rhys ifans, in which case alfred otm
i don't know how that guy gets work anyhow. he takes you out of the movie.

hah i thought about rhys ifans at first but i was like 'no that cant be' because he was... just a normal dad

that was the first time i've liked ifans in years

Pretty sure I weighed in above the fold but I found the characters unlikeable but it felt very real and yeah sad is right. I think despite being about a type of person or people the problems it addressed felt fairly universal, or at least, although it was about a solipsist, the film didn't feel particularly solipsistic

It's certainly not afraid of making its protagonist unlikeable, felt more like unflinching honesty than disconnected from the world or w/e

Ben Stiller was awesome and should have gotten an Oscar nom.

I haven't seen this yet but have been meaning to. Just have to say horseshoe totally otm:

tried to watch kicking and screaming the other nite, was too much to ask to endure those intolerable people AND their pukey dress sense, lasted like 20 mins

― ice cr?m, Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:47 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how dare u

― horseshoe, Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:58 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

although it was about a solipsist, the film didn't feel particularly solipsistic

this is where I was at with the movie, liked it more than I thought I would

tried to watch kicking and screaming the other nite, was too much to ask to endure those intolerable people AND their pukey dress sense, lasted like 20 mins

― ice cr?m, Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:47 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ice cr?m and I agree on something--I found a VHS copy at a bankruptcy sale and lasted about 15.

Well it's definitely dated but I still love it. This was one of those I can quote every line movies for me for years so I don't think I could ever hate it.

Squid and the Whale was his total childhood autobiographical outlet, and it can't be a coincidence that it followed so many years of silence after "Mr. Jealousy." My guess is the gap was filled partly by extensive therapy. Given what Stiller has said about "Greenberg," I assume it, too, has many painful drawn from life elements via Baumbach, as I imagine does "Kicking and Screaming."

haha i liked kicking & screaming, anyone trying to do a fake whit stillman is ok w me i guess

'minor baumbach,' to paraphrase squid + whale

i watched this against my better judgement and kinda felt like yeah, people like that totally exist, but i dunno if anyone needed a movie about them.

This is a weird argument. I mean, I know it's a figure of speech and everything, but no one "needs" a movie about anything. Why is this dude (or kind of dude) less worthy of a movie than anyone/-thing else?

yeah i didnt really know what to do with that sentence

"It's not what the movie's about. It's how it's about it." -- R. Ebert

I totally respect someone saying they don't need a sympathetic movie about a solipsist, though.

the movie so clearly despises greenberg

closer to "pities" I'd say

Yeah, it's totally pity. I don't know why this popped into my head just now, but it's sort of like Mike Leigh's "Naked" were the nihilism swapped out for emotional tragedy.

so so many great things about this. man that scene where they go for lunch was just killer; excruciatingly brilliant. i genuinely didn't know Ben Stiller had this kind of performance in him, i could gladly never have watched anything with him in ever again beforehand.

i watched this against my better judgement and kinda felt like yeah, people like that totally exist, but i dunno if anyone needed a movie about them.

This is a weird argument. I mean, I know it's a figure of speech and everything, but no one "needs" a movie about anything. Why is this dude (or kind of dude) less worthy of a movie than anyone/-thing else?

― jaymc, Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i'm not going to defend my tossed-off post as some 100% true statement i totally believe in, but i feel like you're taking it a little too literally, it was just a figure of speech, not a "oh my god they could be using this movie's budget for something IMPORTANT" type of thing.

but to flesh out my feelings a little bit: as convincingly as the character was written/performed, I didn't think the movie itself was suitably entertaining or poignant or whatever to prop up that character. which is to say Greenberg the character would've been a greater creative accomplishment in a movie that was not called Greenburg with the title role played by a big name star and almost all the other characters essentially existing only to react to him.

I didn't think the movie itself was suitably entertaining or poignant or whatever to prop up that character.

Okay, that's fair. We disagree, though.

saw him chatting w/ Coen Bros at Linc Ctr the other night, and he said he put extra opening credits in so he could stick w/ shot of Gerwig driving to Steve Miller.

any thoughts on thematic overlap btwn this film and Azazel Jacobs's Momma's Man?

so ur momus now?

― johnny crunch, Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:49 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idgi

― public anime #1 (Princess TamTam), Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:52 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

haha, i get it now.

Finally saw this - not bad. As with a lot of baumbach there were many nice moments but the whole did not add up to much. Stiller was solid and Gerwig was amazing. Helped that I could focus on random la details when things got dull.

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2013/02/Frances-Ha-Poster.jpg

liked Greenberg way more than expected but man I cannot stand Greta Gerwig, sorta tentative on this

the part where greeneberg was casually cutting off lil pieces of hIs hair while talking to his friend was p ingenious, I think I mightve fell asleep after that tho idk it was a while ago, cant believe I passed up the chance to fight w horseshoe and erica abt how those horrible dudes in kicking and screaming dress I mustve been in some weird mood

I guess these people are my friends, for some reason.
I guess I like you, for some reason.
I guess let's have sex, for some reason.
I guess I love you, for some reason.

Maybe the soundtrack will explain everything.

"oh man apparently Amy Adams was originally going to play Florence, I don't think that would have worked"

for the Hope Davis Sundance role you need someone suitably Hope Davis-y.

Whiskey and ice cream sandwiches yo

Liked this a little better the second time. That Gerwig would pursue Stiller, I have to suspend disbelief a little there. (Ditto that failed, stubbornly anti-commercial musician Stiller would jump up and run to the stereo so he could put on Duran Duran.) Gerwig and Stiller's friend are very good. Stiller, I'm not sure. His drug-addled little speech to the 20-year-olds (about never wanting to find himself at a job interview with any of them) is good.

man coked up stiller running to the stereo to put on 'the chauffer' and none of the millenials being remotely interested was very very very believable

Really? Wouldn't Duran Duran be anathema to someone like Stiller? He puts Karen Dalton on his mix-tapes.

nah, if he'd rushed over to play 'the reflex' that would've been out of character but 'the chauffeur' was the kind of deep cut stiller's character would've definitely felt the need to let these kids know about, it was on the pitchfork 500. gerwig being into his character was kinda plausible, i've seen some chicks be into some huge asshole losers, esp when they were young and the asshole loser was oldish.

i kinda loved greenberg despite alot of its flaws but i really didn't care for kicking and screaming back in the day and loathed mr jealousy. should i bother w/ this schmuck's other movies? i've had frances ha ha on my netflix list for forever.

Okay. I think I'm of a generation where such distinctions don't exist. Duran Duran is Duran Duran.

xp I think Squid and the Whale is worth your time, and I did like Frances Ha.

yeah i do like gerwig alot so i've been tempted w/ the recent ones

i kinda loved greenberg despite alot of its flaws but i really didn't care for kicking and screaming back in the day and loathed mr jealousy. should i bother w/ this schmuck's other movies? i've had frances ha ha on my netflix list for forever.

bro

I had an inadvertent 'solopsistic males with personality disorders' film fest this weekend, featuring this movie and The Comdedy and the 30 For 30 film about Ricky Williams. That may have been poor judgment on my part.

The Comdedy

saw this for the first time last night. really tight, well-acted movie. maybe stiller’s best performance? I would really love to read a serious psychoanalytic take on the greenberg’s character — I found stiller’s way of inhabiting a character so consumed by his bad habits and neuroses, impelled by this ugly, vacillatory mix of guilt and inflated self-regard, to be moving in a really disturbing way.

also loved gerwig and her character. it’s a shame she doesn’t act nearly as much these days

this thread is such a funny time capsule btw

I liked this well-enough back when I saw it, but I never believed for one second that Greenberg was some kind of prior would-be rock-star/artist.
It was also funny how all of his former band members criticize him for turning down the "great opportunity" of SIGNING TO A MAJOR LABEL when you know they would have ended up one of those bands on an internet list of "90s acts that sold a thousand units despite being on Geffen/Sony/Universal".

Great movie.