Dark Knight 2/Batman Begins 3: Who is your villain?

gotta be catwoman imo if they're gonna stick with dark emotional batman

I honestly believe that the introduction of Robin the Boy Wonder is the only thematically logical way to close a Nolan Batman Trilogy.

so, um, write-in vote: Killer Moth

I like Poison Ivy as some sort of eco-terrorist. Catwoman could work too, but isn't she just a thief? Seems like a bit of a downgrade in the villain dept.

Rumor says they are waiting until Arnold's out of office so he can reprise Monsieur Freeze

Just because someone makes shit up doesn't mean we need to start citing it as "rumor".

THE CRIMESMITH!

Clayface has potential, in a sandman-in-spidey-3 kinda way.

Joker redux.

Because in a way it's a great tribute to Ledger. It's audacious artistically. And because the worst thing about superhero movies is how they only feature the arch nemesis in one film (superman somewhat excepted).

I'll be really disappointed if they just move on with no mention of the Joker.

man that moment in dk where joker said "you and i are gonna do this forever" broke my heart

Wot, no Clock King?

Joker will be the main villain, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Catwoman will be secondary villain / love interest.

having a new actor play the Joker would be such bullshit. what a great tribute it would be to Katie Holmes him huh.

CGI joker

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I'd assumed the Flamingo was a joke, but he appears to be an actual villain so that's who I want. Let's see you make a dark, gritty movie with this guy in it.

i've never heard of the calculator, but lets do it

none

none villain

Batman rom-com

My Batman Friend's Wedding
There's Something about Batman
My Big Fat Greek Batman

The Batman Wears Prada

I Love You, Batman

Batman - a christmas story

Dredd!

max otm. no villain, just Batman kicking back.

im looking for an apatow batman tbh

The Batman Always Rings Twice - Christian Bale takes a job in a diner and murders Peter Sarsgaard

i would watch that so many times

no villain, just Batman kicking back.

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hey klata where did you see mention of flamingo?

Can't remember where I spotted him first, but the image has been burned into my retina ever since. It all checks out though - how can something called 'topless robot' not be a reliable source?

HOLY SHIT I THINK BATMAN'S GOING TO FIGHT THE LOVE-CHILD OF PRINCE AND FREDDIE MERCURY.

Catwoman could work too, but isn't she just a thief?

What sets her apart is that Batman wants to bone her. She's also sometimes been portrayed as having a sideline in avenging social injustices. I think she's the most obvious choice, maybe with the Riddler as secondary.

I dunno how The Penguin could comfortably fit into Nolanworld without going down the outcast freak route that Burton already mined.

Blech. Catwoman and/or The Penguin would be terrible choices.

my vote:

http://www.waswatching.com/archives/bookworm-thumb.jpg

I agree with you on The Penguin, but I definitely think Catwoman could be good.

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Can't remember where I spotted him first, but the image has been burned into my retina ever since. It all checks out though - how can something called 'topless robot' not be a reliable source?

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 11:51 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ohh right ok! "where did you see he might be in the film" is what i shouldve asked, sorry - i'd read that flamingo/batman issue already, hence my bewilderment.

despite the exciting flamboyance he's basically an (easily-dispatched) cipher for the joker anyway so meh.

Dude, Where's My Batmobile?

no way they could do riddler without it seeming like a poor mans joker

Yeah, but what villain at this point isn't? Remember that Nolan won't use villains with "super-powers," as it detracts from the series more realistic feel. I assume that means no "Clayface"-type villains.

(I guess you could say Catwoman. I just don't like her as a villain.)

no way they could do riddler without it seeming like a poor mans joker

Could be a very rich, very smart, very bored guy who sets up these elaborate crimes purely for his own amusement - kind of like Bruce might have been if his folks hadn't been killed. He probably couldn't carry a movie, but might make an alright side villain.

sounds like joker if he was bored

lol accidentally posted this on the gucci mane thread:

not to bring in DK too much but man they fucked up two-face imo

― mark cl, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was a good character basically until they burned his face

― mark cl, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:00 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

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Harley and Me
Me, Myself, and Ivy
Batman, Actually

In all seriousness, though - I think Azrael would be cool. But you would still need a villain to start off.

Bane?

i think riddler could actually work as above: bored playboy etc. play him less CRAZY than the joker and more effete, i dunno. but it'd be pretty boring---he'd need to be leveraged by a villain who was actually terrifying/awful

and he's dead

a hoy hoy I <3 you deeply for bringing up THE BOOKWORM

Serious answer (lol): Riddler
Correct answer: Batmite

Egghead

Noodle Noggin

Isn't Egghead a Marvel villain?

http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/egghead1.

^^^60s Batman TV villain

WTF

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Dr Hugo Strange would work very well if they used his appearance in "Prey" (the early Legends of the Dark Knight story by Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy) as the basis for his role in the film.

Deadshot might work well as a gunman hired to take down Batman.

I feel there's a pretty strong chance that Catwoman will end up in the film, whether that's a good idea or not.

Joker will be the main villain, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and Catwoman will be secondary villain / love interest.

― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:11 AM

So far this sounds like the least bad idea. (The less of Catwoman the better.)

I'd say the most likely scenario is the Riddler, but off-screen most of the movie in a Zodiac/Seven kind of way...with Catwoman being the lesser foil who takes up most of the screen time.

Riddler is such a stupid fucking character, please don't go that route

what you describe would basically just be an episode of CSI

doing the joker again would be such a mistake

i actually dont think it would be that terrible, though it does sound bad. I think, given Nolan's tendencies, the Riddler could be a really interesting character for him to write.

Clayface has the most to offer from a psychological/character POV ... but he's not a marquee villain. all the remaining big name villains are either too ridiculous or have superpowers. Nolan's kinda gotten himself into a corner here. The studio pressure to make another mvie must be insane, but frankly, he might be better off just not doing it.

I think much more important than the villain, is that Bale stop doing that fucking annoying growly voice.

what about the umm mutants from Dark Knight Returns? They were called mutants, right? I can kinda see Nolan doing something with that.

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this

this is the best batman, right here

batman fights goku

― Lamp, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and this is the best post

I think much more important than the villain, is that Bale stop doing that fucking annoying growly voice.

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this

before they even think about the next villain they need to i) recast batman, ii) wrestle control away from nolan and let grant morrison write it

i am personally opposed to catwoman because michelle pfeifer clad in patent leather was such a formative experience for me as a child, my mind would reject any new catwoman immediately~

lol i was just arguing that batman returns is still the definitive screen batman imo ~ devito fukken owned in that movie so grotesque and vivid

yeah agreedo, batman returns is hard to fuck with

most charismatic/coolest batman, best villains, most entertaining overall

scene where the penguins carry away devito's corpse is fukkin heartrending dogg

Isn't it pretty much a given that Two-Face will be in the next Nolan-delivered Batman? Of course Joker's still breathing, but after Keith Lodger, they not goin' there. As they should not by the way. If Grant Morrison writes, it would be cool. Even cooler would be enlisting Paul Pope as screenwriter with Damien Hirst or Richard Prince as production design. Then the villian could be Flamingo to the gills.

With Steve Gutenberg in a comeback role.

Giant Robot Dinosaur

id be pretty into watching batman take on metal greymon fwiw hugh grant will provide v/o work

The problem with not bringing back the Joker is that DK works so hard to set it up.

I really wonder if the wrong/slapped together vibe I get when watching the ending is because they were going to have some sort of Joker related twist at the end but ditched it when Ledger died. The rumor my geekiest friend dug up was that it was supposed to reveal that all along Ledger wasn't the REAL Joker.

Even if he lived, I'm not sure it would have been healthy for Ledger to go through with it again. Replacing him makes sense.

they could just have a scene that explains "oh the joker he died of hepatitis some years ago now, rip" and then move on the dark moral fable of how batman got addicted to rx painkillers after bane broke his back

i was about to say 'idk i dont want to turn batman into house' - but on second thought that would actually own

cranky five o clock shadow sporting cripple batman detectives his way through the movie while delivering withering one-liners

haha he basically acts like house already!

yeah exactly! house is mostly a cranky sherlock holmes, which is pretty much what batman is too (esp when his ~*DETECTIVE*~ side gets emphasized)

it would never work with bale who has the ugly charisma of a rapist but doesnt seem v. ~intuitive~ or thoughtful

yeah he is dragging down the whole franchise imo

It would be interesting to spin Batman franchise by casting Michael Keaton as the superbadguy for a movie.

I think it would be cooler if they'd just embrace the whole DC universe and cast Keaton as the older Earth-2 Batman. But that wouldn't fit Nolan's boring "realist" scheme, would it?

earth-2 is real t-dawg its all too real...

Maybe some Mortal Kombat dudes like Scorpion and Sub-Zero could show up in Gotham and start an end-of-days crime syndicate.

enough with the batman movies already

Egg Fu, plz.

http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG

Ambush Bug!

Dan DiDio!

Philip Tan!

Just because someone makes shit up doesn't mean we need to start citing it as "rumor".
ohbutyousee

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i think it wd be interesting if there were all kinds of unfinished plots, traps, mechanisms, etc left over from the Joker that keep screwing everyone up (incl the new villain, whoever it is). from simple terroristy stuff like IEDs to computer viruses or crews of guys set to do x at a certain time -- stuff he was in the middle of. i can see the k-punk blog post about a haunted city already.

― goole, Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:58 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a good idea! would work, too, with the riddler as the main villain i think?

also the possibility of ledger not being the "real" joker is totally dumb---if they had twisted the plot that way it would've suuuuuuuuuuucked

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I cannot believe that mine was the only vote for Crazy Quilt. Philistines.

new photos from Dark Knight Rises to Begin:
Anne Hathaway as Catwoman!
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Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the mysterious new character J.J.
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lol @ "dark knight 2/batman begins 3"

It was the goggles, wasn't it, Doc?

the goggles and the toyetic "batpod"