NN HOLIDAY SUPPORT GROUP

bc ilxors like to talk about food.
and nutrition. and nazis.

making a list
checking it twice
gonna find out who's eating white rice

― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Monday, December 14, 2009 8:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

one week til i leave for the holidays.

do you guys do anything to prepare for falling off the wagon? extra workouts or calorie restriction?

I'm not dranking--does that count for anything?

yes!

i had some drinks at saturday party. i also not-so-secretly ate some cheese. it was good. i have no regrets. then i made latkes on sunday. now i am back in the good habits but i know it's all gonna get wrecked in 1 week and i am scared :(

Don't be scared--it is just a temporary indulgence, no harm will come!

ditto -- don't be scared. just be moderate and don't worry. i believe that the worrying is worse for you (and more likely to cause psychological stress) than the extra calories.

i am running diligently this week too because of my 5k (lol!) on sat.

my plans for when i am home:

• little sis and i might go running together
• steal parents' car and gym membership keytag things and disappear for a few hours every day?
• planning an awesome hike w/ dad
• going to send an email to mom requesting she stock up on whey protein -- is this rude?

no, it's not

i have just worked v v hard in the past few months and i don't want to blow it all in 2 weeks, you know?
btw also sefap gonna wipe me out, totally.

It seems like you'll probably only enjoy the indulgences for a few days, and then your body will probably feel kind of gross if you indulge too much. At which point it won't feel that difficult to decline more non-NN foods? Your real problem might be getting your mom to stock whey protein! Oh haha you already went there.

the problem is i know she'll come home with some weird wheat-containing whey and soy blend bc she never listens (lol this makes me sound bitchy and spoiled).
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no, that doesn't make you sound bitchy. i have a mom too she is the same whey!

lolllll

hey it is impossible to ruin everything in 2 weeks
cutty has made u paranoid in my opinion

If you are that paranoid mebbe the parents wld not mind if you made a stop on the way to their pad for a container of your preferred whey protein?

Not sure what the family dynamic is (i.e. will they make you feel guilty for not indulging), but maybe you can make some NN recipes, and then everyone wins.

it's not cutty making me paranoid, it's my own fear of losing control over things.
i discussed whey proteins with my mother. lol. she was concerned about finding it. v sweet.
i think they would be fine w/ me making nn recipes, but then they would probably try to doctor them by adding butter or cheese haw.

after retuning my body/taste buds eating heavy/rich things makes me feel gross - I think your built-in defense mechanisms will help protect you

kinda counting on that!

anyway, i want this thread to be here for anyone who goes home for holidays or to parties or whatever and needs a little encouragement or whatever :)

if they put butter and cheese on your nn recipes, i hope they do it after you're done so you can have your portion as you like it!

i'm going to visit family in 3 different states for 2 weeks, i think it'll mess up my nice lifestyle equilibrium too. i'm actually finding that my "built-in defense mechanisms" are working well food wise (had a little wine and sweets this weekend, but no interest in overindulging like would've a year ago), but lots of hours spent in the car and not knowing the areas is really going to mess with my running.

yeah. my parents' area has like, NO sidewalks and people drive like crazies :(

Why can't I do this Nazism? I really want to do it. I really, really suck at dedicating time to it. I feel like annoying the hell out of everyone over the holidays by starting RIGHT NOW at the worst possible time.

who says you can't?
we will SUPPORT you on this here support thread :)

also, you could do modifications (like change the proportions of vegetables to simple carbs on your plate, reduce but not eliminate bread, pasta, etc) instead of hardcore restrictions if you think it would cause too much trouble for your family, or just be too hard to do all at once. i mean that's not very nazi but it works for me.

No-one says I can't, I'm just not doing it. Mostly because too stressed and food = my equivalent of smoking, crack, drink, meaningless sex, tics etc. Also excellent, sound reasoning along lines of 'you are not doing your job well enough so you don't deserve to cook'.

Modifications are the way forward. Not perfection. Just doing more of the right thing.

Over the holidays...

no one is perfect, ever.
and you can't get there overnight!
but it's never a bad time to start down the right path :)

I will let you know how it goes... no promises, only intentions, etc. etc.

HELP I CAN'T STOP EATING THE COOKIES!

Oh whew now I've eaten all of them so nada mas.

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too much sugar :(

i did manage to run yesterday.
going to parents' gym tomorrow.

running on xmas day is a triumph. count this as a victory.

its too cold to do outside exercise, so i did some measly pushups and then gave up. Oh well, at least I didn't eat too badly yesterday, other than apple pie+custard fo' dessert.

Yeah Sam what's up with this weather!? It's too damn cold over here right now. Didn't actually eat too badly yesterday either. Christmas dinner but no second helpings and only a sm bit of chocolate for dessert.

yuh who would have thought it would be cold in winter

i've been running a lot (not much else to do!), but the sheer quantity and variety of food here, plus alcohol, has totally overcome my built-in defense mechanisms. will figure out in a few days if i'm just bloated or have actually managed to gain four pounds in a week. my dad said "wow, that shows that you really must eat well in pvd. and we must really eat badly here." which is sort of true, so when i go back home i'll lose whatever i gained pretty fast, but still, WHOA.

now my little sister is giving me crap for wanting to go to the gym. 'don't make a big deal bc mom has to go with you since she is the member and she is really busy today so maybe it's not the best day for you to do this.' ugh.

can you not punch her in the face? boxing good exercise iirc

i have been lifting weights. plus the whole 'eating one bigger meal a day' thing that happens aroudn the holidays, while my parents are all like, 'oh let's eat ham fro breakfast and then eat a shitton of food for 'dinner' and then eat a bunch of garbage before a light supper of really fatty soup.'

still looking/feeling good. ah.

Our diners have been pretty ok but yesterday was brunch, late afternoon appetizers, dinner, and dessert. messed up schedule. whey protein shake this morning was almost like comfort food.

I also had spinach salad with sardines and red peppers on thursday for lunch <3 but tonight is pizza night at my aunt's and I think I also heard mention of wings. Eek!

Obv I am not a NN but I'm trying to make my family eat more vegetables. So far, half are okay with it and half are resisting. Broccoli despised by at least one family member, and the dish with spinach is being avoided.

Grocery cart looked so weird w/o enough colors in it! Ie fruit/veg.

I am glad my family appreciates roast root veg nd brussels sprouts! I could have roasted them better, though.

We kind of had a nutritional X-mas dinner: roast beef, brussel sprouts, potatoes and kale, and cauliflower.

I've been eating bagels, cream cheese, lox, and rugelah; we gave away our chocolate babka.

Had excellent workout but now we are going to eat vietnamese foodz. Also damn one week of no lifting and I felt weak!!!

vietnamese foods are healthy!

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah spinach is the best food of ever

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i feel kinda sick today :(
we went to the movies and had popcorn last night :(

:)

xmas eve was pork tenderloin, cabbage and sweet potatoes. xmas dinner was duck, brussels sprouts, pear salad. saturday night was shrimp scampi. eggs and cheese and cookie galore. plus coney dogs for lunch! and alcohol.

this will make me stronger for I have survived

Why do restaurants insist on using so much butter/oil to cook things?

cheap n easy way to please the tastebuds

omg too much fucking food. I don't want to eat or see the inside of another restaurant for a long long time.

I went to a FAP and had drinks and came home and threw up. That was my Xmas dieting regime!

Pls suggest nn heavy h'ors d'oeuvres for nye/bday evening consumption. My stomach hurts just trying to come up with anything right now. so far: crudités and chicken skewers. There will be non-nn cake.

avocado sushi rolls

dolmades

not the kind with meat

i forgot i was going to try to find my recipe!

crudités is good though, imo. you could make interesting dip out of yogurt. tzatziki or something

can you do something wrapped in rice paper or wonton skins like this http://www.fatfreevegan.com/appetizers/summer_rolls.shtml

ooh co-sign with the vietnamese summer rolls - those are delicious. but that recipe looks very different than the one I'm used to making

please share yours! i've never made them

hmm well it was something like:

rice vermicelli
rice paper rolls
scallions
carrots or cucumber or both
lettuce (green kind not iceberg)
cilantro

basically the rice vermicelli forms the base of the roll, and you supplement it with whatever else you feel like. for the dipping sauce, I always cheat and use hoisin sauce with crumbled up peanuts. you submerge the rice paper roll in warm water to soften it (it comes all dried out) and then pat it dry and make your roll. pro tip: use two rice paper rolls instead of one to form a sturdier wrap, as it is pretty delicate and prone to tearing.

oh yeah you also put shrimp and/or pork pate in it but I assume we are being NN here

Summer rolls sounds better than sushi!

omg dolmades yes. imo they are best just stuffed with rice but they're still mostly grape leaves.

seems i've gained more like 1-2 lbs, not 4, over the last couple weeks. phew, i'm actually pretty cool with that.

well they do have rice but the amount is smaller than people think. if you overstuff them you can't roll them! and no one (except me :() would want to eat enough of them to get even a full serving of rice. it's stretched out a bunch by the onions and herbs too.

yeah i personally would not worry about it (even though i would also want to eat that many, i would probably try to save some for other people!) but i dunno how strict everyone is

Little vegetable samosas are good, and you can pack those things with lots of veggies and herbs.

or DUMPLINGS!

:( wheat crusts!

Maybe I'll make some chickpea flatbreads.

first time i'm seeing this thread

prob better for summer anyway bc of fresh dill and mint but for future reference this is approximately what i have made a few times before http://morethanburnttoast.blogspot.com/2007/02/blog-post_6829.html

that is v. close to my mom's recipe. also mediterranean style dips that you can put out with vegetables as well as crackers or breads might work - eggplant or spinach pureed w/garlic, oil, & a flavorful pepper, or hummus, or bean & walnut pate with paprika, for instance.

My family thought I looked a bit leaner, and wondered what sort of program I was following. They then proceeded to try and fatten me up. Thankfully I am back out of their clutches now.

fava bean puree is great imo

ooh that does sound good. i suggested a tofu-based spread/dip and my mom made a face and said 'we can make something with yogurt.'

uuuugh i spent the last weekend visiting relatives and eating mediocre-to-gross desserts like three times a day because my other immediate family members weren't and i didn't want the relatives who cooked them to feel bad. and now my mom's all "are you anorexic? why aren't you eating fast food dinner on the road?" after this. GROSS.

yeah i had to tell my mom 3 times i did not want to bring any cake home with me!

i went to safeway tonight and they had no kale :(

awww. i pretty much just want to eat spinach right now myself.

speaking of root vegetables, I made this over the weekend:

Miso, tahini and nut paste for broiled or baked root vegetables

it was very good but I was too heavy on the application, that miso is some salty stuff. a little goes a long way

i <3 kale
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i somehow lost weight over the break. partly b/c i didn't go back west and partly b/c i somehow managed to replace food calories with movies and doctor who calories. pretty sure that is not the NN way tho...

wait I think that post was supposed to go into the 2010 thread xp

i was pretty happy i did not gain any weight. did not lose any tho.
i am worried that increased booze over break might stick around for a while tho bc since i've been home i've been thinking a lot about bourbon :(

i think NYE/champagne has managed to eradicate all booze desire for at least a couple of weeks for me
tho bourbon is really good... or just the thought of it.

sometimes i think i like the thought of it more than the bourbon itself. well, maybe that's not true. but i don't like the next day.