introducing the eCigarette!

I just got one of these yesterday, and I'm trying it out. It's a small electronic vaporizer, with replaceable cartridges containing propelene glycol, flavoring, and nicotine. When you suck on it, it produces flavored water vapor with a nic kick.

The brand I have is Green Smoke. This is a nifty little device, though I am as yet regarding it as a novelty. (Though I can imagine it being a best friend on long plane rides.) I suppose my biggest complaint with this brand is that I wish it didn't look like a cigarette. New tech looking like old tech is always cheesy. I'd prefer some slick shiny little iThing.

ok now i totally dont get "smoking"

Also, when i'm done playing with it (which is so far what it feels like I'm doing), i tend to crave a cigarette.

ok now i totally dont get "smoking"

It's possible that the feeling of "Ok this is stupid" is a first step to quitting actual cigarettes.

i saw a newspaper article about this and yeah i felt like i no longer understood smoking. and it seems like being able to smoke at work all day or on a plane would make you more addicted?

a friend of mine got one for long plane flights - he's a 2 pack a day smoker. It kept him sane.

I'm surprised they let you use them on a plane.

You can duck into the bathroom, I'm sure. It doesn't outwardly smell like smoke.

been wanting one of these for a while

They advertise them on Coast to Coast AM all the time.

i can't believe there are still people who smoke 2 packs a day

I was smoking that much, before I quit.

Practical advantages that I can see after one day of use:

1) No ash, no ashtray. Every smoker knows, that is some fucked-up repugnant shit.
2) I roll my own, and without the "burn accelerators" in every commercial cigarette, tobacco tends to go out when it's not being actively puffed. I have incorporated this into my smoking habits, at least at home. I'll light one, take a puff or two, let it go out, and repeat until I burn my fingers on the butt. This way, I can take a puff or three and then just put it down on the desk.
3) It tastes pretty good. Different brands seem to have different flavors (including, if you prefer, "Marlboro" and "Camel"), but I have vanilla, and it tastes and smells a lot more like pipe tobacco than a cigarette.
4) No clothing/apartment stink. Though frankly I made my peace with that long ago, and it's not such a big deal to me. Let's then go with: no smoke damage to computer equipment. That can actually be a HUGE hidden cost of smoking.

Disadvantages:

1) The loss of ritual, especially since I've been rolling my own for so long. I miss rolling. It took me so long to get my technique down pat, and I enjoy the process.
2) It's tastes a lot like smoke, but it doesn't taste *exactly* like smoke.
3) The nicotine hit is a bit different. And as harbl pointed out, I am running the risk of becoming even more addicted to nicotine than I was before, even as my lungs clear out.

How did you manage to quit from TWO packs a day.

Let us know if this works, I am desperate. I use the lozenges and they worked better than the patches but lately
I have relapsed.

I don't think it's intended as an aid to quitting, and I doubt seriously that it would work. It is smoking without the tar, stink, and smoke, though.

mm, cigarettes

:)

Could it help you quit if it doesn't burn your mouth?

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US EEL, You would do well to consider relapses as temporary detours on the road to quitting, so that you don't dissipate your conviction that quitting is what you both want and need to do. Get back to not-smoking as quickly as you can -- set a day less than a week from today -- and in the meantime see how little you can smoke in a given day.

It also helps to acknowledge that quitting requires you to trade some desirable qualities about smoking in order to gain even more desirable qualities that come with quitting - like health. It helped me to say goodbye to smoking to allow myself to see the "good" side of it, and grieve for it a bit, before dismissing it in favor of not killing myself slowly, and coughing up half a lung with each head cold, and not being able to walk up stairs without gasping. You know -- the bad stuff.

Yeah, Aimless, OTM, quitting is quitting. This is not quitting. It's alt-smoking.

Those green smokers look really silly!!! Looks like something out of the Onion.

You mean the video? Well, that's South Beach, Florida. Yeah, they look silly. They're not as bad as the music, though.

it seems like being able to smoke at work all day or on a plane would make you more addicted?

Not only that, but the nic hit is different, possibly because it's unmixed with baser matter. It hits faster and hits harder. It's more fun, to tell you the truth. Yeah, my #1 concern with these things is that I'll become more addicted to nicotine than ever.

stop me when they make electric xanax

xp - yeah, I tried my friend's - and it gave me a headache - nicotine is a lot stronger.

so its like nicotine crack basically

If you consider cigarettes to essentially be a nicotine delivery system, this is perhaps not the purest form of that, but close.

that's what's weird to me about it. on the one hand it's obviously a healthier option, lungwise, but on the other hand it's such a naked admission of the basic drug addiction that all the rituals of cigarette smoking help obscure. the patch and nicotine gum do the same thing, but those are more explicitly about quitting, where this seems to be intended as more of a methadone-style maintenance program. it seems unseemly. i've never been a smoker, but if i was one, i don't think these would be appealing.

I can't speak for other brands and other flavors available (yet), but this does taste pretty nice.

Anyway, it'll be a fine conversation piece at New Year's celebrations tomorrow night.

N wanted one of these but theyre not legal in Aus AFAIK.

Yeah, weird. I saw that. Apparently they're totally unregulated in the US and UK, and totally illegal in Aus. ????

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-01/synthetic-alcohol-gives-drinkers-pleasant-buzz-without-hangover-addiction

i want to quit smoking so badly right now.

i put the patch about 22 hours ago. so far so good.

I put a .05 millimole solution of nicotine on a California blackworm once and it died, like, immediately. It sounds like some dorky shit but this was one of the main things that made me quit.

They look like a fun, if expensive, party favor!! When I inherit my millions I will leave a dish of these out at every party!

oh ha

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Synthehol

http://astrangeeye.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/star-trek-synthehol.jpg

Q gets way fucked up on synthehol in that episode where he has to be a human. Good fun.

why isn't this the icigarette?

co-worker has one. i tried it and it tastes and smells pretty bad, like really cheap, sweet pipe tobacco.

just smoke weed u idiots

nah, get a droud implant and become a wirehead

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/14/BA4L1BHRER.DTL