anticipating new Lauren Graham show Parenthood.

was gonna be maura tierney in this role, but she has cancer :(

anyway, new 30something harried mom role for lorelai.

and it will be on at ten p.m. cuzza leno leaving that spot. i'm glad about that.

these shows are kinda made for me. hated the movie with a passion, by the way. but i doubt that will matter much here.

old trailer with maura!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vCDj0tsEp0

new promo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUIK17oJuRA

Lauren Graham
Peter Krause
Craig T. Nelson
Bonnie Bedelia
Monica Potter
Erika Christensen
Sam Jaeger
Dax Shepard
Mae Whitman
Joy Bryant
Sarah Ramos
Miles Heizer

erika christensen! amerikkka's sexxxiest scientologist!

used to have the biggest crush on bonnie bedelia way back when. don't tell anyone.

oh i will def be watching this

<3 Lauren Graham but Maura woulda been better.

on tonight. the pilot. will be watching after lost.

the film is like one of the only decent things adult Ron Howard has been involved with, weird that anyone would hate it...?

Lorelei and Peter Krause were major selling points for me...tivoing this for sure.
Love Craig T.

i could write a VERY long essay on exactly WHY i hate it, but i don't feel like it right now. plus, aren't you famous for hating everything? or is that just people who are dead? i may be remembering wrong.

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and, for what its worth, i don't hate grand theft auto, night shift, splash, gung ho, willow, backdraft, the paper, apollo 13, or a beautiful mind. so it's not like i'm a blind hater of the opie taylor looking motherfucker.

people like things, people dislike things. we move on. (Honestly Scott, you could say you hated, I dunno, sunrise, and I'd still think you were pretty awesome in general).

Let us anticipate the return of Lorelai Graham to the small screen!

I liked it. Not too sappy, but nicely melodramatic.

this has two of my favorite tv people ever on it and is set in berkeley, it is like tailor made for me.

Nice! It's got a lot of promise. Hard to judge just from the pilot, but it feels like it's got good 'ingredients'. Damn that Max is a cute kid.

All of the little "Berkeley" details were hilarious! That Chinese restaurant was fucking weird, and all of the shots of downtown filled with well-kept lawns and clean white people. During the day! On "Shattuck"! And what grownup eats at Oscars ever?!

Also, super weird that Lauren Graham looked for an apartment in the NEWSPAPER?!

At least her mom was sensible enough to tell her not to get an apartment in Emeryville. Everything else was mega-weird.

damn, i wanted to watch this, NBC's been running promos for months but i have NEVER seen one where they actually said what week it's premiering so i totally missed it. bummed about MT, as i've discussed on ilx before, i have a huge irrational dislike of Graham (also should be 40something harried mom by now, surely), but otherwise looks like a good cast.

the chinese restaurant (exterior, at least) actually exists but is in san francisco. not sure about the interior

seems like they've moved away from any actual location shoots in the second epsiode (which was better than the debut, content and pacing-wise), didn't see last night's yet.

Who goes swimming with their entire, huge family at 7:30 in the morning?!

hahaha, they do!

i like this more with each episode.

pilot really couldve used some lighter moments to balance all the tearful my son is retarded garbage

probably will watch more episodes bcuz im a sucker for vaguely naturalistic family dramas but this isnt even close to once & again or even fukken everwood

Definitely not as good as Everwood (never seen Once & Again), but yeah, I will keep watching.

The proper term is "aspie," Lamp.

And I liked that they got a real band to guest on last night's show. Can't remember the last family drama I watched (30-Something? Does that even count?), but I like it enough so far to keep watching too.

still good. lauren graham basically playing lorelai mk. II. only huge duds so far are awful lawyer sister and boring husband. parents are cyphers, dad has been mildly annoying when he's been on honestly.

Liking this so far, but yeah, I'm thinking a lot of the good vibes are Gilmore Girls-related. I mean it's almost unfair to give Lauren another role as a single mom with teenage kid(s) and a supporting/overbearing community, as she can play that awesomely in her sleep. But I guess you gotta play to your strengths.

yeah for all the reservations i have about this show -- mainly that i feel like i'm watching a bunch of likable actors go through the motions of family drama but can't buy any of them as being related to each other -- i am getting into a groove w/ it and enjoying it more with every episode. it's pretty easy to get sappy about watching Parenthood with your 6 month son sitting in your lap, though.

btw i still hate Lauren Graham's stupid chipmunk face and advocate changing the name of this thread to "anticipating new Craig T. Nelson/Peter Krause/Erika Christensen/Dax Shephard/Monica Potter/Joy Bryant show Parenthood."

btw i still hate Lauren Graham's stupid chipmunk face

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yeah i was asking for that and i know it

i support boring lawyer sister as long as she continues to bust out of every lawyer outfit they give her to wear. your puny human clothing can not contain her!

it's pretty easy to get sappy about watching Parenthood with your 6 month son sitting in your lap, though.
^^this, but substitute "daughter" for "son." show is super cornball and sort of poorly plotted, but damn if it hasn't made me well up several times now. IRL parenthood has destroyed my jaded exterior. But yeah, this show is watchable if only for the actors -- don't feel like the writing is worthy of them just yet.

the appeal of this show for me is apparently its ability to make me cringe. that and, um, boring lawyer sister.

its funny too that this show has a doppelganger in modern family sitcom on abc. i proudly watch them both.

cringing just feels good sometimes you know? boring lawyer sister is fairly hot, tis true. and i kinda like Krause's wife, but her hairstyle bugs me.
funny though, i haven't watched one of these mainstream-y family dramas in a while, and I keep expecting, like, *horrible* serious things to happen, but then I remember that it's a mainstream family drama. And I can just relax.

yeah i keep noticing parallels with Modern Family (spazzy maybe-aspie son, gag w/ underdressed mom wondering in front of teen daughter's computer while she's skyping with boyfriend), but MF is better at what it does and also has a bunch of people who don't seem like they're related on purpose.

i think they give Monica Potter super extreme mom hair to seem a little older because she was doing movies opposite Freddie Prinze Jr. less than a decade ago

her hair just seems kind of hard and helmet-like.

so wait, who's in this Modern Family show?

ed bundy

and a hot colombian lady

Modern Family: Ed O'Neil Got Swole

shit. al bundy.

Oh yeah, I wonder if the unaired is out there. It's hard for me to picture Maura Tierney playing Lauren's role right now.

*unaired pilot

Based on the trailer, Tierney Parenthood looked more drama, less cornball. You can kind of see it in how big of a dick Grandpa was in the first ep.

al bundy trying to teach gracie street fighting to his gay son last night was wonderful. i really do like that show. wasn't sure at first cuz i kinda hate the bearded redhead gay guy. or i thought i hated him based on some horrible cbs sitcom he was on that was swiftly cancelled. but i don't mind him so much now.

yeah he's good in MF, i think it was just his character (and equally horrible love interest) on The Class that made him intolerable

that show was just...it was like they went out of their way to create a show with THE most unlikeable characters of all time all in one place.

lol more or less, yeah. glad lizzy caplan got out of it w/ a career though.

and hey! just remembered, Jason Ritter was on that show, and also on this week's Parenthood!

The end of this season was pretty poor, and there's usually at least one ongoing plotline that annoys me, but it does large communal scenes just about better than any other show right now, and I appreciate that.

This is back. It is going okay. It has been picked up for 2 additional episodes, so 24 instead of 22.

Every corny, sincere NBC ad for this show makes me not want to watch it out of principle.

last episode was really good, after the season kinda starting with me rolling my eyes at every single new storyline they set in motion

I really hated the assault charge storyline and I'm glad they nipped it in the bud. If that had happened in my house, my parents would have said "so you were drinking, you got this girl drunk, you tried to prevent her from leaving the party with her boyfriend, and he hit you? Good. You deserved it."

yeah the whole time that thing at the party happened i was going "seriously? fuck you guys for this hackneyed bullshit." very relieved that they're not going to be drawing that out for the whole season. other plotlines (coffee girl's baby, crosby's business, etc.) also a little annoying but at least have some potential to go somewhere.

Good to see another competent young woman is probably going to lose her job over the Braverman brothers. Poor Rachel.

i miss this show. when we moved we didn't get cable. as an experiment in sad living. we have netflix though. can watch old parenthoods. i should find the new season online. probably the network show i miss the most.

It's on hulu

It's on nbc.com

randomly caught tonight's episode & this show is fucking good

it's been in a good groove lately but i wouldn't have pegged it as the kind of thing anyone could just drop in on an episode of and enjoy much

yeah i mean my bf was sort of giving me a background but idk, maybe i just caught a really good episode but there were a few scenes that were just really, really well written and acted

also further evidence of ann veal inexplicably having one of the five most successful post-arrested development careers

crucial aspects of the show just felt very real to me in a way that i don't really expect from network tv

i should say the episode instead of the show

Just started this with my wife as it seems to be the perfect fit for us both to enjoy. 3 eps in and it seems pretty good.

Having 2 young kids makes these kind of shows tug at you differently though. I breezed through all 5 seasons of Friday Night Lights in like a month and felt like I was getting parenting lessons on a nightly basis. Everything is like a 'what if' going through my head. Just thinkin bout things.

i randomly dropped back in on the show a couple of episodes ago cuz i was jonesing for network realism and its a p easy show to just pick up, despite its serial nature since all the storylines are so familiar (in a good way tho)

yeah it's not like the stories are hard to follow by any means, i just imagine it being hard to care what's going on unless you've been w/ these characters through this thing and that thing etc.

nothing really bad ever happens to them though; I skipped like, five episodes and didn't feel like I missed anything at one point.

what were you expecting, Breaking Bad levels of mayhem?

i mean this is the kind of show where 2 parents splitting up and no longer trying to raise their son as one family is the big earth-shattering event of a season, that's just how it is and kinda can't be any other way

haha one of the reasons that i stopped watching this show is because i thought it wasnt lowkey enuff

yeah there was a period where EVERYONE WAS YELLING ALL THE TIME and i was a bit weary of it

it's a few levels down from FNL as far as depth of feeling goes (I'm making the comparison because they share a producer). I do like it though, maybe the only network drama I watch on a regular basis

"network" as in nbc/abc/cbs

when did they introduce pretty-eyed cello woman? I missed that. she is just suddenly there. I like her. I assume she will be gone in two episodes.

She showed up two weeks ago. I wish they weren't using her to make Jasmine look like a bitch, yet again.

i really love this show (watching season 1 now)

also joy bryant is fine as hell

Joy Bryant is wonderful.

decent end to the season. Billy Riggins (I don't think he was explicitly playing Billy Riggins but he may as well have been)! Like how the Zoe story resolved itself. Don't buy for a moment that girl and city council guy are going to be able to just 'work together' though, they may as well just hook up, I frankly don't really see what the problem is.

i think the 10-year age difference is the main thing that her aunt (and the theoretical public if they were to find out) considers a problem

j0rdan have you caught up on the first couple seasons? i have a hard time imagining dropping in on the show mid-run and then going back to the beginning but it might be interesting or give a fuller context for the current storylines.

yeah i'm like 3 episodes thru season 2 right now

i don't really know much of what's going on tbh... the only thing i remember from the one episode i caught was that crosby & joy bryant's character were both seeing other people

sometimes i feel like this show keeps it pretty real as far as how they choose to depict a character like max and sometimes i feel like they're straight up trying to make you hate a kid with asperger's

Bummed I bowed out midway through season 3 because by many accounts this season has been great.

I feel this depiction of Max is better than many shows would do, where they'd have the father sit him down and explain how things are and how he's gotta behave and have him easily fall in line.

But I admit I almost revived this thread last week with a "Max is an asshole." comment.

sometimes i feel like they're straight up trying to make you hate a kid with asperger's
ha yeah, on the one hand i always groan when there's a max-centric plotline, but on the other i respect that the battles there are pretty hard fought and the victories are totally tiny, as opposed to wrapping everything up at the end of the episode. he is crazy annoying though, i definitely respect the kid actor.

yeah i respect that they've really pulled no punches w/ him but at a certain point i'm like damn can you please give them some kind of bigger victory w/ max

"hi grandpa, I have pubic hair"
"there ya go!"
"I haven't ejaculated yet, but the internet says that when I do, I will begin to see the world in a new and exciting way"
"well a whole new world is gonna open up for you, max, believe you me, when you start ejaculating"
"do you ejaculate, grandpa?"
"do I ejaculate? do I ever, I tell ya"

Loved that scene.

craig t. nelson was so fucking funny

Yeah he stole the whole episode with that scene imo. Rewound that and watched it with the wife a few times just to catch everything he said in that exchange.

Funny when dude came out of the shower and was all glowing I thought for sure he had rubbed one out but nah, just washed his balls is all.

Just started season three of this. I was afraid, for all the obvious reasons, but this show is really good! Perfect casting, I think, which is sort of rare for such a huge ensemble TV cast.

Yeah its pretty great. There were moments in this most recent season where I was like uh this is kinda boring and then a scene or two in a row would come along and just floor me completely.

Seriously, this show is super solid, even at its sappiest and most sentimental. Very true to itself and to its characters, and at its best to life. I can even excuse the on the nose music cues.

I have been binging on this show in the past week, -- am now blowing through Season 3

I really like the way Dax Shepard is with kids + Jabar, he's a very naturally likeable dude so his general fuckup persona works really well.

can we get a count on how many shawls Bonnie Bedelia actually has? and I want to make a tumblr of 'that weird frog face Lauren Graham makes when she's going to cry' even though I love her to death

Craig t nelson is kinda boss as the vietnam vet hardass dad/softie grandpa/oldschool crazy dude

This show is so freaking adorable in so many ways

i don't necessarily agree that the show is any more flawed right now than it has been in the past, but i still enjoyed watching someone yell at it:
http://www.vulture.com/2014/01/parenthood-has-lost-itself-this-season.html

I'll red that later probably, but the Joel/Julia stuff is truly dire.

so much of the storyline was similar to Adam's "oops somebody kissed me" plot a couple seasons ago that it was kind of funny when Adam and Julia talked about it and commented on how he'd been through something similar. Joel's role has been so boring and thankless for the duration of the show's run that i wouldn't be shocked if this was all because the actor wants to be off the show or have his role reduced.

yeah he's never been interesting but we've seen so little of his actual perspective that he just comes off as super whiny and entitled. which is extra amusing because he's built like Jason Bourne.