I don't know if there's ever been a thread like this but I think it's an interesting idea, with respect to people Rick James, who wasridiculously talented and charismatic, but whose 'antics' were proportionately reprehensible, or Michael Jackson, who was "Michael", but at the same time was Michael, if you know what I mean.
so...
1. Michael Jackson (singing and dancing vs. all that other stuff)
2. Rick James (amazing music and fashion vs. kidnapping and beating people while on crack benders)
― EDB, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:45 (fifteen years ago)
3. Gary Glitter
― Use a computer to superimpose your head over that of Bronson Pinchot (Stevie D), Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
4 Georg Hegel5 Axel Witsel
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:51 (fifteen years ago)
6. barack obama
(just getting it out of the way)
― iatee, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
Michael never touched that kid, btw
― oh, wrinkle... pause (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)
7. ashley cole
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)
8. polanski
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
5 Axel Witsel
what did he do? that you know, a 100 other footballers haven't?
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:57 (fifteen years ago)
Xposts: That may be, but Michael was still a total weirdo
What did Hegel do?
that reminds me
9. Martin Heidegger
and
10. Phil Spector.
― EDB, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)
11. Eric Gill
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)
lol repeatedly embarrased a national treasure (our cheryl) innit.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:10 (fifteen years ago)
12. Miles Davis
― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:25 (fifteen years ago)
13. varg
― adam, Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:28 (fifteen years ago)
14. dom passantino
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:30 (fifteen years ago)
15. Carlo Gesualdo (composer)
was going to say Althusser but he was actually a hack
― DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)
16. Woody Allen (Woody Allen)
17. Miley Cyrus
― Use a computer to superimpose your head over that of Bronson Pinchot (Stevie D), Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:46 (fifteen years ago)
I'd say Woody tips more to the good side, perverse as he may be (unless you're talking about his post millenium film output, in which case...)
And I'd give Althusser a bit of a break, since he did strangle his wife during a psychotic episode, after all.
If we're talking spousal murder, though:
17 Carl Andre.
― EDB, Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
18. Sammy Davis Jr (entertaining fellow vs. Nixon-hugging satanist with one eyeball)
― lukevalentine, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)
19. Didn't William Burroughs kill his missus?
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
20. R Kelly
― Michael B, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:04 (fifteen years ago)
21. Mike Tyson
― Michael B, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
22. Big Pun
― DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)
23. James Brown.
― DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
xp to #19 - yeah, he shot her in the head, but it was an accident, so no foul.
― a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
24. Arthur Koestler
25. Ezra Pound
― alimosina, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
26. richard wagner
― henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:07 (fifteen years ago)
27, Knut Hamsun
― zappi, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:08 (fifteen years ago)
Carl Jung
― Brad C., Monday, 15 February 2010 00:14 (fifteen years ago)
29 Catherine the Great
― nakhchivan, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:16 (fifteen years ago)
30. John Wayne
― Michael B, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
thanks for this btw, it's always good to hear from people who were close to case
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
maybe whiney is that kid
― harbl, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:21 (fifteen years ago)
just like whiney to violate his non-disclosure on ilx
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
31. Alfred Hitchcock
― alimosina, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
77. 777Tonetta777
― self-important coozen (bnw), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
32. Werner Herzog33. Werner Herzog's best fiend
― blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)
34. Louis-Ferdinand Celine
― itchy rainbolt (clotpoll), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)
damn why didn't i think of this! What a creep.
― DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)
Herzog is weird but certainly not horrible.
― Simon H., Monday, 15 February 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)
35. Jesus Christ36. Andy Dick
― da Wesley CRUSHER (latebloomer), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)
37 Abel Ferrara
― nakhchivan, Monday, 15 February 2010 00:48 (fifteen years ago)
38. Chris Brown
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 15 February 2010 00:49 (fifteen years ago)
39. Kanye West, who is just kind of :/ . I'd been kinda dismissive towards him for a while because I got really fed up with his douchetacular antics, but then I recently relistened to his first two albums, and...bro, I just can't stay mad atcha.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:55 (fifteen years ago)
There are lots of people in this thread who piss me off in a similar fashion. Andy Dick: why you so funny on early NewsRadio and such an utter disaster today? WHY?
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:58 (fifteen years ago)
cause newsradio had good writers
― iatee, Monday, 15 February 2010 01:59 (fifteen years ago)
I want to say Mel Gibson...but I guess I mean the Mad Max/Lethal Weapon/Tim Mel Gibson...he hasn't seemed talented for quite some time now. Maybe add him as a confusing footnote. Definitely weird/horrible O_o
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)
otm!
― EDB, Monday, 15 February 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)
(Jerry wanted to play Holden Caulfield in a film version of Catcher in the Rye btw)
― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 February 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)
!!!
― ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)
Van Morrison
― Venga, Monday, 15 February 2010 16:08 (fifteen years ago)
65. Brian Wilson
― sofatruck, Monday, 15 February 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)
66. Lee Perry
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)
67. Ty Cobb
68. Howard Hughes
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)
69. Ike Turner
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 February 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
70. fyodor dostoyevski
― there can be only but steam that smells of shit and weaklingness (Eisbaer), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)
71-80. reserved for rappers who actually sold lots of drugs and killed people.
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Monday, 15 February 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)
It seems like there could be a whole separate thread for soul rnb etc. singers who beat their spouses.
― EDB, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:05 (fifteen years ago)
xpost or Lil Wayne
― Fahrvergnügent (herb albert), Monday, 15 February 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)
so now I'm trying to think who's fantastic, glorious, talented and NOT weird, horrible, O_o in some way. the two kinda go hand-in-hand.
― Fahrvergnügent (herb albert), Monday, 15 February 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)
Well, the part I hand in mind when I made this thread that I should have stressed was the "equally" part, peoples whose negative aspects are inversely proportional to the good parts, so you can't quite like them but can't quite not like them.
― EDB, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
Which is a lot less common.
― EDB, Monday, 15 February 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)
81. Sly Stone
― might seem normal (snoball), Monday, 15 February 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)
That's a lot harder and requires its own thread. One example is Julian Schwinger.
― alimosina, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)
82. John Lennon
― Humphrey Plugg, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)
83 otto weininger
― nakhchivan, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)
84 Philip Larkin
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 15 February 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)
Damn! Forgot about Larkin!
― alimosina, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)
85. henry ford
― Bangkok Serious starring Yahoo Dangerous (Pillbox), Monday, 15 February 2010 18:35 (fifteen years ago)
86. 'Papa' John Phillips
― Fahrvergnügent (herb albert), Monday, 15 February 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
87. Mandela
― Now, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)
88 cemal paşa
― nakhchivan, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)
89. Dennis Hopper90. David Crosby
― drew in baltimore, Monday, 15 February 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)
91. saruman
― ogmor, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:02 (fifteen years ago)
92. Alan Moore. Even Wikipedia can't make up anything half as O_o as his personal life. For the dubious, Exhibit A: With his first wife Phyllis, he had two daughters, Amber and Leah. The couple had a mutual lover, Deborah.[16] In time, Phyllis, Deborah, and the two children left Moore.[17] ;_;
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:09 (fifteen years ago)
93. Marlon Brando. I think a lot of his proclaimed 'weirdness' in later life was just him and his weird sense of humor amusing himself. Ed Begley told a great story in the TCM Brando documentary about Brando calling him up in the middle of the night with this new great idea to put electric eels in his pool...not for security, but as an energy source to power his house. LOL. But he's still a bit of a wackadoodle, I think he qualifies for the list. <3 him anway.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)
94. Bing Crosby
― might seem normal (snoball), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:20 (fifteen years ago)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, February 15, 2010 3:09 PM (12 minutes ago)
Yeah, I was just about to say "yeah, Dave Sim tells this story about Alan Moore and his wife and his wife's girlfriend and..." and then I realized, duh, so --
95. Dave Sim
― blow it out your bad-taste hole (WmC), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:24 (fifteen years ago)
Jimmy Page deserves an honorable mention, though maybe not an official top 100 berth, at the very least for his "Aleister Crowley was a misunderstood genius". And how the hell he ever got a wink of sleep in that creepy-ass house is beyond me. (lol creepy-ass no pun intended)
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
no pun registered
― amuse-douche (s1ocki), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)
Page was involved with a 14 year old groupie too no?
― Michael B, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:39 (fifteen years ago)
Oh wow, I forgot about that. Okay he's definitely in the 100 then.96. Jimmy Page
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)
96. Frank Sinatra 97. Elvis Presley
― drew in baltimore, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)
98. Jerry Lee Lewis
― might seem normal (snoball), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
Jimmy Page's 14 yo girl here:http://www.stryder.de/rest/Groupie_Central_Lori_%20Maddox.html
the 70's were crepey.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
xpost - Jerry Lee's upthread already
99. Paul Schrader
― drew in baltimore, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
100 nikolai gogol
― nakhchivan, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)
co-sign Paul Shrader.
101. Anne Rice. Probably qualifies as 100% looptheloop now, & her books are pretty awful. But back in the day...she was cool.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
102. Jack Nicholson103. Tolstoy104. Thomas Jefferson105. Peter Bogdanovich106. Warren Beatty107. Strindberg
― drew in baltimore, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)
108. r. crumb
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Monday, 15 February 2010 23:26 (fifteen years ago)
For the dubious, Exhibit A: With his first wife Phyllis, he had two daughters, Amber and Leah. The couple had a mutual lover, Deborah.[16] In time, Phyllis, Deborah, and the two children left Moore.
married dude's marriage breaks up and the kids live with mum for a while, but stay close with their dad. dude remarries 16 years later. o_O!!!!!!!!!!
― you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 00:31 (fifteen years ago)
yeah a lot of these folks don't seem all that horrible to me, maybe i have low standards. r. crumb otm. thin contextual line between weird/horrible and fantastic/glorious imo.
― Don't delay, we cannot do this forever. (Matt P), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 00:44 (fifteen years ago)
xpost I was going for more of the angle that Moore had an open relationship that ended with his wife hightailing it out of there with the other woman. Among other things...and no matter how awesome he is you cannot say that he's NOT weird.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 00:50 (fifteen years ago)
109. Kim Fowley
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:57 (fifteen years ago)
110. Stephin Merritt
― one boob is free with one (daavid), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 05:58 (fifteen years ago)
that Moore had an open relationship that ended with his wife hightailing it out of there with the other woman.
...and PERHAPS a huge pile of his cash that the two had KIND OF SORT OF MAYBE, ALLEGEDLY ripped off. how weird and horrible of him!
Among other things...and no matter how awesome he is you cannot say that he's NOT weird. people have relationships and shit happens imo. the other husband's weirder for staying mates with him throughout, some might say.
[nb ppl please don't go into names here, Alan's kids have asked for that to be taken off wiki]
― you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 06:29 (fifteen years ago)