SHUTTER ISLAND: WILL IT SUCK?

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i voted suck, sadly

suck

write-in for "neither good nor bad but BATSHIT"

write-in for "neither good nor bad but BATSHIT"

― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm, + critical savaging + critical reappraisal in ~10 yrs

honestly can't see how any good can come of this. poor Ruff, he doesn't even merit a shot in the ads/previews

looks like an unfocused mess. Those Jacques Tourneur movies 90 minutes long so FU Scorsese voted "suck". Will still watch tho, definitely.

if it's batshit i'm on board but i suspect more confused/generic w/ touches of cape fear self pastiche.

Guess it won't be up to snuff for the group that voted The Departed one of the top 25 Best Films of the 00's.

voted "will suck." not sure why; i love scorsese. but his newer films seem . . . smaller, tinny, and much less coherent.

Ebert likes it:

You may read reviews of "Shutter Island" complaining that the ending blindsides you. The uncertainty it causes prevents the film from feeling perfect on first viewing. I have a feeling it might improve on second. Some may believe it doesn't make sense. Or that, if it does, then the movie leading up to it doesn't. I asked myself: OK, then, how should it end? What would be more satisfactory? Why can't I be one of those critics who informs the director what he should have done instead?

Oh, I've had moments like that. Every moviegoer does. But not with "Shutter Island." This movie is all of a piece, even the parts that don't appear to fit. There is a human tendency to note carefully what goes before, and draw logical conclusions. But -- what if you can't nail down exactly what went before? What if there were things about Cawley and his peculiar staff that were hidden? What if the movie lacks a reliable narrator? What if its point of view isn't omniscient but fragmented? Where can it all lead? What does it mean? We ask, and Teddy asks, too.

What if there were things about Cawley and his peculiar staff that were hidden?

aw shit if theres sorcerers in this it will be goat

no

it will be between 60% and 85% as good as 'bringing out the dead'

Ebert adores this man.

You may read reviews of "Shutter Island" complaining that the ending blindsides you.

Um, even the positive reviews of this one probably won't be making that particular complaint.

You may read reviews of "Shutter Island" complaining that the ending blindsides you doesn't make any sense.

You may read reviews of "Shutter Island" complaining that the ending blindsides you doesn't make any sense is the most predictable ending in movie history.

That said, was surprised by how much I actually liked this one.

(Null vote.)

That said, was surprised by how much I actually liked this one.

Ebert's review?

I guess I wouldn't be shocked if it were good, great artists surprise you, but (the Dylan documentary excepted) Scorsese hasn't made it past passable since at least Casino, which has a variety of problems itself. He hasn't made a pantheon film since GoodFellas, alternating between hopeless bombast (Cape Fear, Gangs of New York, Bringing Out the Dead) and varying kinds of bleah. I thought that getting his symbolic Academy Award might finally lead him back to better things, but this looks like more of the same.

The movie, Alfred. But I guess I like Scorsese's "passable" movies generally better than his pantheon stuff, so I'm not to be trusted, et al.

Too afraid of spoilers to read this thread, but this will not suck if you like well-photographed-and-edited b-movies that you can have a lot of fun with.

i haven't seen 'bringing out the dead'

but i unabashedly love coppola's dracula so if it's a big lurid mess it will not suck.

I'm a big fan of Coppola's Dracula too...so maybe my sense of bombast isn't all that consistent.

hmmm the tv ads are quoting peter travers and harry knowles. this sucks!

This thread kind of makes me want to see it.

you're getting sucked in

shutter island? I haven't been inside her yet!

Ebert adores this man.

ya the fact that he gave it only 3.5 stars is pretty negative

this was laaame

dude has no flair for the gothic cgi horror shit, and frankly there's not much of it. mostly just obvious chatty scene after obvious chatty scene (WHICH MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY HAPPENED WHAT WITH THE TWISTS AND ALL). Most embarrassing moment might be when (SPOILER!!!!!) Ben Kingsley whips out a marker board with anagrams on it during the oh-so-intense climax.

lot of scenes where the scorsese of cape fear would have had leo JAB THE FUCKER IN THE EYE but instead he just kind of whimpers or nothing happens

Ben Kingsley whips out a marker board with anagrams on it

Between that and The Love Guru he's been on a roll.

suck

i think i saw Kingsley on the poster for Prince Of Persia too. Dude's going for a hat trick!

I'm looking forward to this if for no other reason than to enjoy Jackie Earle Haley in full-on lunatic mode, before the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot crushes the magic forever.

he's only in the film for one scene and is more a sad guy unjustly imprisoned then a full-on lunatic, fair warning

that is fucking lame.

That said, was surprised by how much I actually liked this one.

so, no country music?

But I guess I like Scorsese's "passable" movies generally better than his pantheon stuff

plz see The King of Comedy, we need more ppl pushing the Alternate Pantheon.

i will enjoy this more than the departed, i'm calling it.

“Shutter Island” is rated R (Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian). Blood, swearing, cigarettes.

plz see The King of Comedy, we need more ppl pushing the Alternate Pantheon.

I do count King of Comedy as part of the pantheon, no argument; maybe Who's That Knocking at My Door, too. If the point is that Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, Raging Bull, and/or GoodFellas ought to be written out of the pantheon, no--as obvious as they may be, it all starts with them.

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Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Amazed about these 17 votes.

I saw the new Scorsese movie, Shutter Island last night. Fuckin loved it all in all. Not a near perfect movie but it offers droves for those inclined toward inward examinations of the macabre.. Or something like that, I reckon.. I'm curious to see if some discussion could be kicked off here - its been a while.

Here is very Edifying review of Shutter Island: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/movies/reviews/2010/shutterisland.html

The reviewer suggests considering these questions to get a discussion going

1. Who, if anyone, comes out of this film with integrity and morality intact? Can we discern the heroes from the villains?
2. What do you think Scorsese is trying to observe about good and evil in Shutter Island?
3. What do you make of the last line of the film?

I think the first question is a great one. I'd love to get into it... anyone else? I know the movies come out recently so the handful you chaps round these parts might not see it for a while. But drop a line here if you do, if you like. I might write something up anyway (one day) but I could tear in to this one with company.

"God loves violence" "There is no moral order at all. There's only, can my violence conquer yours?"

thx :)

jesus christ this sucked

shoulda waited the extra 45 mins for hot tub time machine no doubt

this movie sucked, alright. "well made" in that it looked pretty cool and the acting was decent, but overall just totally silly and way too long. I guess when you start with shitty source material, it's hard to turn it into something good.

people trying to defend it upthread are pretty hilarious - guess what, the first 3/4 of the movie sucked too. the big atonal portentous score was especially hilarious. hey let's have another "surreal" dream sequence

i really hate movies where the female characters do nothing but cry

like to keep that to ur personal life, eh

bwahaha

this is a rly great film

I liked how everything was deliberately layed on thick, almost comically overdramatic. It wasn't afraid to go big. A subtler approach wouldn't have been as successful I don't think. It was too long and draggy though. Some judicious editing to get it tighter and it would've been great.

best scorsese film in a decade imo

rly liked the music

don't think it's better than 'the depahted' tho

or even 'the aviator', in a way

the soundtrack is amazing, fairly heavily referencing 'the shining' w/ ligeti's 'lontano' and penderecki

also scelsi and cage in a big hwood pic...

Liked it, didn't love it. May have enjoyed it more in the cinema rather than on a plane.

awesome movie

only good movie i've seen this year iirc

this movie looks intentionally ridiculous and crazy. i'm just going in assuming it's scorsese's version of 'in dreams'.

― ('_') (omar little), Monday, February 8, 2010 7:26 PM

from another thread on this movie, but calls it pretty well imo.

So I have never read a Dennis Lehane novel and the movies of his novels have convinced me this was very wise.

i doubt any of his novels includes the lines 'DiCaprio squints incessantly'

I doubt the screenplay did either though.

i bet it was written on sticky notes and passed to scorsese a lot during filming tho

not as an instruction or anything, just as a 'boss, have you um, noticed this?'

yeah i guess having spent months directing him scorsese will have noticed his 'restricted affect' and inability to emote without looking like a peturbed cat

shutter island is very great tho

i enjoyed it a lot, tbf. i'm not very sure about it being 'great' if that signifies hidden depths or w/e

not necessarily

theatrically i thought it was very impressive (on a huge screen in a nearly deserted auditorium) and it's stayed with me

need to get the bluray

irl people don't have that many facial expressions

if you get it on bluray and watch it on a very small tv from across the room you can be just like leo

irl people don't get the run of mental facility islands with mark ruffalo trembling his lips at them for two days for the lulz

leo needs at least to extend his repertoire beyond x) / x( to XD, :s, :/, 8)

there was a bit in titanic where he was :p at kate winslett's boobs iirc

with his success record all that champ's gonna extend is his waistline, hiyo

"i bet it was written on sticky notes and passed to scorsese a lot during filming tho"

From the 2030 EW Voices from Shutter Island piece:

Scorsese: Leo just kept asking me, "Should I squint more? I don't know if I am squinting enough. Maybe I should start this scene with a long squint? How tight do you think the close up on this squint should be?" Dealing with the squinting questions drove me back to cocaine actually. Really it was a depressing time in my life.

cocaine was cut by shoving leo's face into it and making him squint it up reeeeal fine

You people are insane, this movie was a blast.

― Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Monday, March 15, 2010 6:06 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

...or are you all actually *sane* and it was terrible?

― Shannon Whirry and the Bad Brains, Monday, March 15, 2010 6:06 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also, was there a thread that was mostly people making fun of the accents in the trailer OR WAS IT JUST A DREAM?

there's another thread on it somewhere, wheah the eaksents ah layempooned

Shutter Island (new Scorsese, w/DiCaprio, Ruffalo, etc)

i kept calling my dog ah doolee appointed feduhral mahshull last night and my wife had to tell me to knock it off

― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, February 19, 2010 12:38 PM Bookmark

http://grab.by/91iq

^basically apparent to anyone who saw the trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGM6BgmHLSc

DiCaprio’s bad acting is so bad in this that it forces Ruffallo to act poorly as well just to match his awkward energy.

I don't really understand what Marty sees in him - he's terrible in everything! He gets by in Departed and GONY, just, because he's not the center of attention. Otherwise, yeesh.

Scorsese's best movie this century

lol, I guess I'm completely wrong as fuck in thinking he was decent in The Aviator

he was good in once upon a time but i think it was because you were supposed to laugh at him

Yeah, he's well cast in Once Upon A etc., I think it's his best performance and he works well with Pitt.

And then he's back to being a very silly boy in Flower Moon.

I dunno, feel like he's decent playing a profoundly dumb and evil character.

yeah thats the only Scorsese movie where his thing works for me at all, precisely because he plays a complete moron constantly scrunching his face up in confusion

Scorsese's best movie this century

Not sure if that's meant more as a comment on Shutter Island itself or everything else he's done this century.

(Not sure where I posted about it; thought it was really silly the one time I saw it.)