probably already a thread, but if not, Tim Burton and Alice In Wonderland. Fuck you Tim Burton.

just saw a preview screening of this and it was so goddamn awful. ugggggghhhh quit fucking up my positive feelings towards johnny depp you jerk.

feel free to point me towards whatever thread is already discussing this, search function has failed me.

on the plus side, will scar many children and thus create some great confessional "i am broken inside" lit over the next 10 years.

was JUST about to start a thread about how in hmv they are sell 'adaptations' in novel form of tim burton's alice in wonderland. it blew my mind. i asked the guy at the counter about it, confused and he said he thought it was a sequel to the original novel and i was all THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS though and walked away in a huff.

i was informed tonight that this is actually supposed to be (and conceptualized as) a sequel to the original disney alice in wonderland, to which i respond with a hearty FUCK U

tim burton sucks

never more than now, apparently

it was like his remake of charlie and the chocolate factory, except without all the charm and respect to the original subject matter

OH WAIT

p.s.

Dark Shadows is an upcoming vampire film directed by Tim Burton and starring Johnny Depp. It is the most recent remake of the 1966-71 soap opera Dark Shadows.[1] The film will be released sometime in 2011.

Finding out that some friends of mine are actually LOOKING FORWARD to this is an even bigger disappointment than the fact that it's happening.

oh hey remember when every tim burton movie was an original idea instead of a mishandled rehash/remake of some previous intellectual property? those were good times.

xxpost HA DO YOU SEE

will see this out of duty this weekend. yeah, tim burton done got boring long ago. he's supposedly remaking frankenweenie via CGI, too. GET ONE ORIGINAL IDEA KNUCKLEHEAD.

was JUST about to start a thread about how in hmv they are sell 'adaptations' in novel form of tim burton's alice in wonderland. it blew my mind. i asked the guy at the counter about it, confused and he said he thought it was a sequel to the original novel and i was all THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS though and walked away in a huff.

― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 4 March 2010 08:40 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"Through the looking glass" was first.

Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (1872) is a work of children's literature by Lewis Carroll (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), generally categorized in the fairy tale genre.[citation needed] It is the sequel to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (1865). Although it makes no reference to the events in the earlier book, the themes and settings of Through the Looking-Glass make it a kind of mirror image of Wonderland: the first book begins outdoors, in the warm month of May, (May 4),[1] uses frequent changes in size as a plot device, and draws on the imagery of playing cards; the second opens indoors on a snowy, wintry night exactly six months later, on November 4 (the day before Guy Fawkes Night),[2] uses frequent changes in time and spatial directions as a plot device, and draws on the imagery of chess. In it, there are many mirror themes, including opposites, time running backwards, and so on.

ah, ok. (was sure it came before, in the anthology version I used to have)

not seen this yet but not got my hopes up cos the willy wonka film they did together was awful.

My friend just got tix for the grand opening (?) in Antwerp. Of course Depp nor anyone else from the film will be there but I am still jealous for her!

tim burton sucks

― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, March 4, 2010 8:42 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

have seen tons of posters advertising this. I gotta admit, helena bonham carter looks...striking

in the same way that a hot person would look 'smashing', i presume

General abuse and trashing of this film has been going on here:

Alice In Wonderland

I'm not sure if I can think of a director that has pissed away my good will more than Burton. Used to love love love him, but now I borderline can't stand him. Still will be going to see this because a) I'm a sucker for the visual design of his movies even if every other aspect sucks ass; b) my wife loves Johnny Depp and she is excited for this; c) Ann Hathaway.

darraghmac, nah, not attractive, but definitely attention grabbing, kinda in a matthew barney-ish type way

I'm not sure if I can think of a director that has pissed away my good will more than Burton

kind of encapsulates it perfectly, yeah. Planet of the Apes onward, he's just been a plain bad filmmaker.

I liked 9, but he was just producer on that.

He should enter a phase in his life where he produces.

whatever he neesd to do from here, continuing as a shitty 'cover band' director isn't it.

read an interview w/burton+depp about this, and burton said he'd never even read the books before he decided to do the movie. hmph.

what a pity, he could have 'reimagined' the back story so much more effectively if he had. dick.

"Sweeny Todd" was good, guys.

I expect this movie to be overwrought and silly, and that is exactly why I want to see it.

"sweeney todd was good" is an objective opinion, and it's a rubbish one. YOU'RE overwrought and silly imo.

I will be over here in the corner snickering with my objective opinion

a very tim burton image, that- can we perhaps entice you into these stripey dungarees?

sweeney todd wasnt bad actually no. everything else hes done in recent memory though has been bad. very bad. esp when he tries to get into some sort of childrens fantasy world, and involves johnny depp.

ie, this is otm -
"i'm a sucker for the visual design of his movies even if every other aspect sucks ass"

Sweeney Todd was probably his best of this decade, yeah, but not saying much.

Er, last decade, F U new decade switch.

Anne Hathaway is in this? From all the advertising I assumed Johnny Depp and his missus played every part.

think this has been gone through in every tim burton thread buck Sleepy Hollow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sweeney Todd

buck - but

nah, "Sleepy Hollow" = "Sweeney Todd"

missed chris walken in sweeney todd, must re-screen tbh

sleepy hollow is the only halfway decent movie this guy has ever made, fuck him forever

^^ all kinds of 8080

nah, "Beetlejuice", "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure", "Edward Scissorhands", the two Batman movies, "Sleepy Hollow", "Sweeney Todd" and "Mars Attacks!" were also good

I enjoyed "Planet of the Apes" and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and especially think the latter is underrated, but I am not sure I would actually say they were good movies.

I enjoyed "Planet of the Apes"

Has this sentence ever been written or uttered previously, I wonder?

before 2005 or whenever i guess it was, yeah

'I enjoyed Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes"' is a completely new construct in this or any other language however

ed wood is a masterpiece, sleepy hollow is a nice pastiche, the rest meh

"Coraline" had real menace, and, as the story is hardly as ubiquitous as "Alice" and I'd never read it, I had no idea what would happen. I mean, her parents are held hostage! There is real evil afoot, not cartoon evil. And Coraline has to work for her redemption.

I"m hoping Burton gets tapped to make the 3-D "Oz" remake (really! it's apparently happening!) just to see him get some real hackles up. Man, you thought people were pissed when he redid "Apes" ...

the 3-D "Oz" remake (really! it's apparently happening!

brb committing violent suicide

Can I come with you?

yes we will meet Judy and have martinis

"violent suicide"?

I need specifics, man!

suicide by fudderwacken

brb doing the fudderwacken on j0hn d.'s grave

Fudderwacken on a pile of razor blades.

I don't think Tim Burton has it in him to out-goth the already extant "Return to Oz," so maybe they should let someone else have a go.

team-directed by an all-star lineup of gothic visionary talent

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/misswheeler_1/my%20chemical%20romance/My_Chemical_Romance--large-msg-1-6.jpg

Just waiting on his tweegoth reboot of Pee Wee's Big Adventure with Depp as Pee Wee.

I could see it working with Steve Carrell

uhh paul reubens hasn't died yet people

he was pretty good in the ipad commercial

uhh paul reubens hasn't died yet people

What kind of forward thinking Hollywood executive are you.

Neither has Gene Wilder!

"Return to Oz" is amazing. In a way this kind of reminded me of that -- a whole lot, actually -- but yeah far less menacing. I mean what's menacing about the 60s Disney Alice? Nothing! It's still amazing!

It wasn't made as a 3D film though, the 3D effects were added after the film was completed to help it ride the post Avatar wave.

I believe you because a number of scenes are 2.5D, which is something you can easily do in After Effects by just cutting out the foreground and background footage and spacing them apart. I think it actually makes the film as a whole less of a strain on the eyes tbh. But many of the scenes truly appear 3D and as it's an optical effect anyways, I say however they choose to do it, as long as the end result is satisfying, then go for it.

My eyes hurt throughout the film, so fuck that.

yeah mine too

so wait i heard this was the scariest movie ever made

if the prospect of 'alice in wonderland 2: electric fudderwacken' scares u, then yes

xpost to bad electric bugaloo jokes thread

Just waiting on his tweegoth reboot of Pee Wee's Big Adventure with Depp as Pee Wee.

I will nuke Los Angeles. You have been warned.

the trailer reminded me of xanadu. the garishness of it.

HBC as Francis. Crispin Glover as Amazing Larry.

Just back from seeing this, it was pretty good. I liked a lot of the design, and Wonderland itself wasn't the insta-cgi world I'd feared. HBC channelled Miranda Richardson's Queenie but just fine, and Alice was cute (no-one ever seems to capture the uppityness of the og Alice). Otherwise... it was fine. I enjoyed it more whilst actually watching it, but the experience feels a bit flat in retrospect.
It was no Coraline, or Labyrinth (prob the best Wonderland-y type film, and one which I wish Burton had kept in mind when making this).

I will nuke Los Angeles. You have been warned.

I'll arrange to be out of town.

I didn't like Depp in this. I didn't like the take on the character, or the look. I'm thinking Michael Keaton would've been a far better choice. Burton needs to get Keaton back into his list of regulars imo.

Anyway, next Burton wants to do The Addams Family, in 3D naturally.

http://scifiwire.com/2010/03/da-da-da-dum-snap-tim-bur.php?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Tim Burton has become a black hole of boring

has burton just given up? he's made himself into the most boring and predictable brand in hollywood this side of roland emmerich.

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Whenever I think of my favorite Tim Burton movies sometimes the Addams Family slips in there and then someone reminds me that he didn't make it.

See how helpful he's being? He's doing it just to help your listing.

i bet $1 he casts Depp as gomez, HBC as wednesday

I would see a Burton remake of Mama's Family, but the Addams Family? No thanks.

HBC as Morticia, surely? A shoo-in I'd say.

agh please don't let this vampire sink his teeth in my beloved addamses

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/burton.jpg

she effortlessly decapitates dude because she is ~*~the pale shawty of destiny~*~

― david foster ballaz (m bison), Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:52 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

lmao @ u

the 3-d was disorienting enough that i found myself wondering if i'd really want to see an actioner like tron or avatar in this kind of medium. so they're less disorienting?

i thought the fudderwacken was hilarious in its incogruity, like someone spliced a youtube video with attendant freemusic.com clip into the footage. having never read either of the books and only remembering the story vaguely from having seen the disney version as a kid i can't say i'm full of rage at THE MARKED MISINTERPRETATION OF THE CONCEPT OF WONDER or anything. but i had a good time watchin this.

hate the movie? hate the 'Music Inspired By' even more!

Almost Alice - Various Artists

Out of the rabbit hole from Wonderland comes 15 NEW tracks from today's MADdest artists. Almost Alice features a unique collection of today's favorite alternative artists and the next round of superstars bubbling up from the underground. This is a companion piece to Danny Elfman's soundtrack score. Modern rock and alternative artists have long been inspired by the classic Alice in Wonderland tale and the cultural impact of Tim Burton. Almost Alice is the musical expression of those influences.

1. “Alice (Underground)” performed by Avril Lavigne
2. “The Poison” performed by The All-American Rejects
3. “The Technicolor Phase” performed by Owl City
4. “Her Name Is Alice” performed by Shinedown
5. “Painting Flowers” performed by All Time Low
6. “Where’s My Angel” performed by Metro Station
7. “Strange” performed by Tokio Hotel and Kerli
8. “Follow Me Down” performed by 3OH!3 featuring Neon Hitch
9. “Very Good Advice” performed by Robert Smith
10. “In Transit” performed by Mark Hoppus with Pete Wentz
11. “Welcome to Mystery” performed by Plain White T’s
12. “Tea Party” performed by Kerli
13. “The Lobster Quadrille” performed by Franz Ferdinand
14. “Running Out of Time” performed by Motion City Soundtrack
15. “Fell Down a Hole” performed by Wolfmother
16. “White Rabbit” performed by Grace Potter and the Nocturnals

Good LORD:

Disney has come through the rabbit hole and pronounced that the Tim Burton-directed 3D conversion Alice in Wonderland surpassed the $1 billion mark in global box office. For non-sequels, that puts the picture behind only Titanic and Avatar.

Given that happy ending, it's small wonder that Disney and other studios have placed a premium on public domain fairy tales. I'm hearing Disney has been flirting with Timur Bekmambetov as possible director for its Mitchell Kapner-scripted origin story The Great and Powerful Oz. That project had Adam Shankman and Sam Mendes mentioned as possible filmmakers, and it's just one of a slew of Oz pictures percolating. The Wanted director also is circling Disney's Jungle Cruise, the long-gestating action-adventure movie idea based on the Disney theme park ride. Timur pitched a take to film's Mandeville producers and writers are meeting on the project.

Back on the fairy tale front, Disney recently made the seven-figure deal for a reinvention of Cinderella that will be scripted by The Devil Wears Prada scribe Aline Brosh McKenna.

Timur Bekmambetov

"Smithers, get me Tim Burton's non-union Russian equivalent!"

The Wanted director also is circling Disney's Jungle Cruise, the long-gestating action-adventure movie idea based on the Disney theme park ride.

What, the plastic animals COME TO LIFE!!!?

(ps I know, they're not all plastic, I've been there)

"Smithers, get me Tim Burton's non-union Russian equivalent!"

9 >>>>>>>>>>>> anything tim burton's done in a decade

Academy Award-winning "Alice In Wonderland"

and not just one award either!

well, futter my wacken:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiEG3Zr_Jxs

http://www.wsj.com/articles/alice-through-the-looking-glass-bombs-at-the-box-office-1464637964

$34.2 million over the weekend. I was hoping this one would flop.