"Very civilised"

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When did people start saying this in response to you mentioning any activity that isn't drinking a six pack while watching some bear baiting? Is it just a UK thing or do people say this in the US too?

EG "I went to see exhibition x"

"Oh very civilised!"

Is this common because when someone says they saw something you've never heard of it's the easiest response. Or because people feel awkward talking about things like galleries or weird arty events or whatever?

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I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

they do? the sentiment is pretty common but the phrase not so much afaik

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

i find the phrase common enough that it feels like it has a v specific social purpose or something! fairly sure i've said it myself plenty times too

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

just make sure you say civilized

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

is it always with a z? shame on me

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

i spent last night watching ferrets fight each other and drinking toilet cleaner

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

well la di da

nmop apisdn (cozen), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:30 (fifteen years ago)

i spent last night watching ferrets fight each other and drinking toilet cleaner

that old culture vs civilization trope

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

It's the old self-deprecating English middle class thing isn't it? Implies a kind of "don't normally roll with high-falutin' culture stuff m'self" attitude.

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

Perfectly correct to spell civilised with a "s" btw

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

there are a lot of crap newsnight review ish cultural 'events' that aspirant left-bourgie types try to get excited about whereas orthodox upper mids would generally rather watchs ferrets fight

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

also people from East Anglia

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 March 2010 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

steer clear of old people and you shouldn't have to deal with this crap. otherwise, give em a good sucker punch

guammls (QE II), Sunday, 14 March 2010 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

i only say this in response to stories about downing six packs and/or ferret fighting

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

I probably have said this or similar often enough but I can't quite recall the exact phrasing I'd use

but barely a day goes by without me saying "how uncivilised" in response to e.g. "I had to get up before noon to go to work today"

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 14 March 2010 23:21 (fifteen years ago)

I think with high cultural events, people basically go to them not because they enjoy them but because they feel they ought to, so the "how civilised" comment is people saluting you for putting yourself through the misery of something that somehow makes you a better person.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 15 March 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, the unbearable pressure of keeping up with my mates down the pub is the only reason I wd go to a lol "High" Cultural shindig.

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 March 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)

i've mostly heard/used this to praise the introduction of some comfort to an otherwise grim/sloppy/austere situation. i'm so naturally urbane ppl deem the other usage unnecessary

ogmor, Monday, 15 March 2010 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

i'd usually take it as an expression of mild surprise, but i mean it's not like i ever hear it tbh.

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Monday, 15 March 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

i've mostly heard/used this to praise the introduction of some comfort to an otherwise grim/sloppy/austere situation.

AKA "What happens when you move in with your boyfriend."

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

there are a lot of crap newsnight review ish cultural 'events' that aspirant left-bourgie types try to get excited about whereas orthodox upper mids would generally rather watchs ferrets fight

loooool otm

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:18 (fifteen years ago)

ime boyfriends less likely to offer a "very civilised" to homely enhancements from a gf and more likely to offer a "wtf is all this shit?"

ogmor, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

My current one is extremely appreciative, but yeah, you prob have to value those things in the first place. Not to cast aspersions but maybe being of a certain advanced age helps cos you've done the sloppy student thing already (disclaimer: obv not a universal truth).

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:29 (fifteen years ago)

Q: "wtf is all this shit?"

A: Dishes without grease spots on; clean sheets without cigarette ash smears; food containing actual vegetables; shower product that intended for any other than a puberty-riddled teenaged boy.

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:39 (fifteen years ago)

plenty of guys ready to be awed by any female w/ framed photos & a properly run kitchen, no doubt. I am way more civilised than my gf frankly, she's basically my eliza doolittle.

ogmor, Monday, 15 March 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

almost all of my adult gf action has been ladies upgrading from manky gits. i know my place, and having endured my teens am looking forward to the 30's being my time to shine.

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:43 (fifteen years ago)

Haha Eliza Doolittle. We all have our disgusting savage specialties; mine is total silence while I tuck into food. Bf says he knows I'm happy when all talking stops during mealtime.

Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Conversation is what smoking & drinking are for. Eating, not so much.

Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

it's why paperback novels were invented tbh

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Monday, 15 March 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

Ignoring you until after lunch tbh

Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

where can I find these ferret fights you speak of?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Thread reminding me of 1920s and '30s novels in which poor or fallen-circumstances characters get the chance to hear some "elevated" music or attend an opera or etc...always, ALWAYS intended to show their inner worth/tendency toward culture & cultivation regardless of their straitened circumstances.

Ie "quality will out".

Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)


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