The _Avatar_ sequel, presumably also directed by James Cameron

SeaQuest!

We created a broad canvas for the environment of film. That’s not just on Pandora, but throughout the Alpha Centauri AB system. And we expand out across that system and incorporate more into the story – not necessarily in the second film, but more toward a third film. I’ve already announced this, so I might as well say it: Part of my focus in the second film is in creating a different environment – a different setting within Pandora. And I’m going to be focusing on the ocean on Pandora, which will be equally rich and diverse and crazy and imaginative, but it just won’t be a rain forest. I’m not saying we won’t see what we’ve already seen; we’ll see more of that as well.

ew.

The Abysser

Can't wait! </uncool opinion>

He obv has a good team of imaginers / visual artists in his employ, and all the money in the world to play with. At the very least this movie should rise to the level of "pretty neat stuff to gawk at".

He obv has a good team of imaginers / visual artists in his employ, and all the money in the world to play with. At the very least this movie should rise to the level of "pretty neat stuff to gawk at".

― Aimless, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 02:18 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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avatar 2: electric bugaloo

and now, we wait

i actually saw and enjoyed Av 2x (3-D IMAX) and was surprised that it held up well the 2nd time. i know the general consensus on ilx was hoping for it to fail but yo dudes, save that bile for your wes anderson criterion boxset or whatever.

Shasta out

hey u like something crappy it happens don't sweat it

yeah, i like u!

\(^0^)/

i neither loved nor hated Avatar, but imo there's nowhere to go but up w/ any sequels, think it'll be pretty easy for them to make at least a slightly better movie with the same template/visual style

i mean it's such a boring readymade sci-fi 'world' as one movie that they can only improve on it by being forced to fill it with more details and stories and make it more lived-in.

I'd rather watch Stan Helsing 2

Doesn't matter if it's good or not it will make a zillion dollars anyways.

have been genuinely surprised/impressed with Cameron's recent capacity for putting his time/money where his mouth is re: the politics underpinning the movie

Loved it, fuck a script there's such a thing as world-building carrying the day. On board for more.

Really hoping the 2nd + 3rd movies aren't entirely based on the big bad US military coming back for more & the Avatarians fighting them again and again, yet succeeding cos Jake is 'the chosen one' in some prophecy or something.

i could do without ANY military stuff in the next few, because it was boring and dumb.

Yeah it would be so much better if the conflicts were like creature group v. creature group. Or maybe 'left over tech from human incursion causes conflicts between pandora beasts'.

next couple flicks will be all about satisfying the overwhelming demand from the fan community for more giovanni ribisi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mslJnkh5Pnw

yeah i will totally see this

“Right now we are planning our 3-D tour movie and James Cameron is directing it,” will.i.am tells VIBE. “We have the biggest director because we are the biggest group on the planet. The Peas are filming it in South America. People will be able to see us in the theater with the 3-D glasses and everything."

"There will be a storyline that Cameron came up with, which will be dope," the BEP frontman continues. "It’s a full-length film and it's based around our tour activities. We’ve toured from America and Europe, to the Middle East, South America, Asia and Africa. It’s not like we go, 'Yo, we are international, you know what I’m saying? London and Paris!' Nah, that’s just two cities. We want to go across the planet.”

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42852

“I can tell you one thing about them,” Cameron laughs when Empire nonchalantly enquiries about storylines. “They’re gonna be bitchin’. You will shit yourself with your mouth wide open.”

cool guy

i wonder if the theaters owners know about this

ha ha

imagine saying this! you will shit yourself with your mouth wide open!

say what you will about the man, at least he knows his audience

There's gonna be three sequels for Avatar?! Seriously?

I mean, I liked it an all, but it didn't exactly scream "four-part movie series", did it?

Well, something has to support the Disney park in progress.

Cameron: You should make a Disney park based on "Avatar!"
Disney: What's "Avatar?"
Cameron: You know, the movie with the blue people?
Disney: "The Smurfs?"
Cameron: No, the other one. It made a billion dollars!
Disney: So did "Frozen." I think we'll make a "Frozen" park.
Cameron: Wait, wait! Does "Frozen" have ... a sequel?
Disney: Of course it does. We have at least one in the pipes, maybe two.
Cameron: Well, what f I told you "Avatar" had ... [looks at accountants and lawyers, who shake their heads cautiously) three sequels? [accountant slaps head]
Disney: Well, Jim, I would say that's starting to sound like some Disney numbers. Does it have a princess?
Cameron: It does!
Disney: We're in. Someone go tell Elsa the bad news that she's going to Epcot's Norway pavillion. Jim and I have to get to work spending some blue money.

Avatarier: More Avatarin'!

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/27/avatar-2-first-look/

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/avatar.jpg?w=2700

Imagine they're all blue, or most of them are.

“We never had this youthful element before, and that brings a different kind of energy to the film,” he says. “They represent the future generation of Pandora and play a very significant role — not just in this movie but throughout all the movies.”

I'd like to think that picture was taken of focus group kids after they got their own "first look" and were all, eh.

They mostly come in blue. Mostly.

I hope those kids are strapped in for the kind of career momentum that Sam Worthington has enjoyed.

whats an avatar?

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/27/avatar-2-second-look/

https://hips.hearstapps.com/cos.h-cdn.co/assets/16/32/1470929175-hook-teaser.jpg

"now you kids better not plug your tails into anything!"

Imagine they're all blue, or most of them are.

Except the whitest kid, what a weird coincidence

RUFIOOOOOOVATAR xxp

could swear I've seen that kid second-from-the-left in something before

if you're talking about the Hook photo, he was in Band of Brothers

http://www.collectorsproof.com/uploads/bfadb5a8c2bab1cf8a738a21030eb04431bbc98126ef0a8624adff09.jpeg

he also looks a little like Carbone from the prequel Li'l Goodfellas.

no I am talking about the Avatar cast photo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNfhOEYg80c

cicieraga is god

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avatar-way-of-water-runtime-1235251391/

lol over 3hrs. Sure thing. Jim. I want to see a cut that is entirely people speaking underwater.

"Blrrb. Blurrble blurb blur."

"Blurbbb!!! Blurrr bla blurb brbbble!"

sounds great

damien chazelle's three-hour star-studded comedy about the transition from silent to sound is a "tentpole"! a little ominous

I've seen the Babylon trailer enough times over the past month that they sure are trying for that. Then again, it's about the same amount of times I saw a trailer for that smash hit Amsterdam.

you all are wrong this movie ruled

Otm

otm = out of your mind

<3

As someone who did see it in 3D on an IMAX screen — and largely enjoyed it — I can't fathom watching it in 2D on TV, much less on a smaller screen. It would be like watching a YouTube of a rollercoaster ride.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

Only in the future four+ hour extended version.

I do appreciate that James Cameron spent years and years making movies on the water, in the water, under the water, diving, floating, sinking, researching and developing state of the art FX, until he was finally able to create computer rendered water so realistic it is indistinguishable from the real thing ... and then populated the movie with 10-foot tall blue people.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

No but neither do rollercoaster rides.

There is a whole subset of youtube videos dedicated to roller coasters, they're kind of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViSVOWv3Pp8

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

Is the new one available on Max the newest one?

endless exposition worldbuilding is just absolute gibberish to me, a grumpy elderly woman who enjoys Movies and Cinema that YOU sir James Cameron USED TO MAKE ugh idk why it irritates me so much but omg i could not have hated it more

shit absolutely fucks once they stop talking and start swimming and fighting, you'd love the final action scene

(saw it in liemax 3D and liked it enough I went again in local 3D, had not seen the first one until the reissue in November or whenever)

final action scene

which goes for about an hour forty if you want to skip ahead

you have mistaken me for someone else if you think i’m going to at some point “continue watching” and/or “finish the movie” or even “skip to the good parts”

https://media.tenor.com/images/3832e18bd9b1b83a21d03a80ca20b4e6/tenor.gif

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Lol at "liemax". We also only have one authentic IMAX here locally and I made sure to see it there and not the pathetic fake IMAXes

For future installments, Cameron will build a series of 100 GIMAX theaters — 32 stories tall, a city block wide — equipped with fully mobile seats that will rise, fall, and swoop through the air. It will raise the cost of the next film to $12 billion, everyone will make fun of him, and then he will gross $25 billion.

isn't that basically just the avatar ride in disney world?

Pretty much! Which is awesome fwiw.

For all its prettiness, a sad lack of imagination on display in this. The new Na'avi are just wet Maori stereotypes, and having them all talking English just lays bare how they're completely mundanely human in emotions and thought. The animals are all familiar aquatic animals with bits from other familiar species bolted on. They don't come up with anything really alien at all.

There is a very clear reason for that tbh

It’s an open polemic, not The Mote In God’s Eye

You can still make polemics interesting and not racist.

I watched this but shouldn’t have because I hated the first one. I hated this more - intensely, loudly witless and boring, and unforgivably devoid of imagination.

i thought the water/whale scenes in this were just brimming with wonder and beauty lol

prob my favorite “second act where all the narrative momentum disappears for whatever reason, usually bc of the temporary evasion of the bad guy” in a james cameron film

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Sunday, June 11, 2023 11:44 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is urgent and key for these films.

yeah are people watching this sober??

I tried watching this sober today. Lasted about 20 minutes. Nope. Gotta be in the mood for endless CGI “wonder”.

avatar ii is a non-racist movie imo

watched it sober on a big screen and loved it

big screen = imax 3d

Well-meaning but lazy cultural appropriation is still racist, just not Nazi racist.

naw

James’ sentence is true, and I’m not equipped to judge how the scales tip between lazy and well-meaning in this instance — but Cameron’s clearly foregrounding the references, and cast Cliff Curtis as the head wet guy.

Cameron is totally going to follow up "Avatar 5" with "Titanic 2," about the search for the sub in search of "Titanic." He's got the CG water FX down, the next few years will be spent working on the script.

in the same film

Avatar 5: Titanic 2

Sigourney Weaver has been attached to play the sub via motion capture.

Good interview here, as usual pretty full of shit, lol:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/james-cameron-interview-avatar-future-1236451614/

“I’m frustrated because the human race seems to be delusional about what they think is going to happen next. We are going backwards. But who’s to say we wouldn’t be going backwards even faster if it wasn’t for these films? There isn’t an alternative Earth without Avatar we can point to and say, ‘It made this measurable difference.’ What we can say is the Avatar films are on the right side of history.”

Let me be one of the first to say: thank you, "Avatar" films.

🤣

jfc

lol I wish he could just admit he likes making expensive movies with lots of explosions and fights.

I mostly liked the 2nd one, because I do like the scale and I think he's one of the only people who uses 3D well. I'll probably still see this one, but yes my interest is waning.

he should just stick to being the rich submersible expert who bores everyone rigid every time there is a new Titan doc

submersible idiot is right

supposedly the evil marines are still the baddies in this one. they were the most cliched part of the original. they should have stayed dead.

Something else that irked me about the interview was how he more or less shirked responsibility for AI in Hollywood, when the whole point of a series literally called "Avatar" is about replacing human actors with cartoons. Sure, people have been doing that for a while now, but Cameron's big thing is making his computer-made world indistinguishable from what is 'real,' which is to say, proof that it can be done. So why wouldn't Hollywood follow through with what he pioneered? In the interview, he arrogantly (natch) claims he can make a car chase that looks as real as an analog stunt. I'm sure he can, and people do, just as they make virtual sets and virtual gun muzzle blasts and blood and all sorts of other stuff. But virtual people, that's the inflection point, and no matter how much Cameron touts his motion-cap bona fides, the better he and it gets, the less incentive Hollywood has to use real actors. He wants to cut himself out of the discourse, then he should make a movie using mostly practical effects to prove *that* can still be done.

Speak of the devil, watched "The Abyss" the other night for the first time in years. The blend of models, sets, projection, CGI, even stop motion may not be seamless, but as with "Jurassic Park" the (most conspicuous) CGI stuff holds up relatively well. The irony of "The Abyss" is that Cameron whiffed the *ending*. Writing is one of the fundamentals totally at risk to AI, but writing is the one thing Cameron has struggled with more than most things.

fire and ash isn't a particularly terrible movie, but man is it a let-down after way of the water

If you think it's a let down then you are letting down the Earth. Think about that.

lol

it's incredible to me that water and fire were originally conceived as one movie. since fire consists of copy-paste retread of like ten different major scenes from water