The Prisoner: Semi-Random Thoughts - The Distress In The Uselessness Revealed?

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On Thursday morning I regained consciousness. I was hooked up to a drip and although initially without pain could not actually move. I was more bewildered than anything. It took me until teatime on Friday to work out where I actually was; a nurse led me to the window, opened the curtains and revealed the familiar panorama visible from the fifth floor intensive care unit at the Chelsea and Westminster Hospital. Which I ran. For five years. Although familiar it still did not seem real or palpable and I took some convincing to disabuse me from my belief that I was actually in the John Radcliffe (after another week they did find a bed for me there and transferred me, painfully, to an ambulance which got stuck in White City for what seemed like 98 hours). To an extent it feels as though nothing has been what I would consider to be real ever since then, and moreover it feels like a tangible loop, endlessly making the same mistakes.

We are told in "Fall Out" that filming was done at Portmeirion, but when the truck escapes at the end it is patently travelling on the London-bound A2, the trunk road from Dover.

Why have I only started contributing actively to ILM/ILE for two months even though I have been reading it for two years? The key player in the series, Alexis Kanner, doesn't appear until episode 14 (of 17) and even then his roles are variable and hard to get a grip upon. I suppose it's just knowing when to make your entrance.

"Once Upon A Time." Beckett at teatime, explicitly indebted to "Endgame" via the umbilical link of Leo McKern. The most frightening moments in the series were the quietest ones. The part where an exhausted McKern rises from his semi-slumber, stumbles drunkenly to the cage - which of course is the actual "Village" - and simply peers at McGoohan, shrugs his shoulders and says, out of curiosity - "Why DID you resign?" Only then does McGoohan respond.

Quietness. We're all scared of silence. Make a noise forever. It saves us from thinking.

And somewhere in the dark semi-consciousness, hovering between this world and another one, Carlin is six years old again with the dimly lit Ferguson portable TV in the kitchen, wondering and wondering again.

Robin will understand this.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, Marcello, I don't understand the specific references, because I don't know The Prisoner, but I understand exactly what you're getting at.

Does this allude to your being run over in 1998 as mentioned lately on ILM?

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yep. As only you have noticed so far, I am trying to make all my contributions fit together, even if only loosely, to try to tell what might be a vaguely interesting story. Perhaps a bit more interesting than raising six key points which have hitherto been criminally omitted from the debate.

It goes way beyond ILM, too - you ought to see some of the stuff I wrote circa '86/7, one of which I might resuscitate into a thread along the lines of "Opinions Based On What You Thought 15 Years Ago: Classic or Dud?" - although I might have to add a glossary to explain all the then-current references, some of which even escape me now.

Re: "The Prisoner" - currently being rerun on the Sci-Fi cable channel on Thursday evenings at 8, and at present about halfway through the run; but of course all episodes are freely available on video/DVD. No idea what libraries are like down Portland way but they should stock 'em.

Marcello Carlin, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You couldn't send it to me privately, could you, Marcello ... ?

Been meaning to check out The Prisoner for yonks. You've sped up my motivations, though.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 17 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i remember the prisoner as a wonderful programme, not only well structured but lovely to look at too, excellently coloured.

i do wonder though, if i was to see it again now, whether my opinion would still hold. but you should check it robin, for sure

gareth, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When did you see it, Gareth? C4 repeats some years ago, maybe?

Robin Carmody, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hey - "Prisoner" references in pop, anybobody? i'm sure there have been many songs "inspired" by it but the only one i can actually remember is that Iron Maiden song off the "# of the Beast" album (pretty dumm)...

duane, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape" by IIRC The Times.

"Number 6" by Taboo, a dancey mixey thing of the theme from 89 or so.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh of course, the Times...I've heard of that for years, never heard it tho'.......is it any good? They were a TV Personalities relative - right? - which indicates that i might very probably like 'em....

duane, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the actual theme music, of course, is CLASSIC...

duane, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

robin. correct. it was the c4 repeats. btw, has anyone actually been to portmerion?

gareth, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I have. But - doh - before I'd ever heard of, let alone seen, The Prisoner. I was about 7 or 8, so I don't remember it well: I remember it being very peaceful and obviously odd and fantastic too.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
Is Tha Prisoner anything to do with St Ides? Dirt McGirt?

Greg, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it was hot on the spot so i jetted up the block / and I asked for st. ide's, i could tell by the dot

ethan, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
The Prisoner is an amazing programme. how did anyone ever think that absurdist drama would make ideal mass market TV fare? how did they get a second series of it made?

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 23 June 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The Prisoner is probably my favorite TV show of all time. Even after repeated viewings (I sprung for the box set when it came out) I'm still finding odd things in it.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)


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