How do you interpret refried bean swastikas?

damn it

The vandals were white supremacists in support of the law, using refried beans as a racist symbol by which to disparage immigrants
The vandals were civil rights advocates in opposition to the law, using swastikas as a racist symbol by which to disparage the State of Arizona

why does it do that

people can also just talk about the arizona immigration bill itt if they want, like whether or not it'll be struck down by the supreme court cause it's unconstitutional, i mean you don't necessarily need to even address the refried bean swastika thing if you don't want to!

maybe ppl just wanna talk about whether or not they would eat a refried bean swastika, personally i feel it would be much more palatable as a layered dip (not merely frijoles) preferably from a swastika-shaped trough and not smeared on a window

swastikas....................made of refried beans

It kind of looks like it is made of poop.

it's true! refried beans probably are used as a stunt double for poop in all kinds of major motion pictures starring poop

One time I was making pancakes in shapes, which is what a good hostess does, and taking requests for shapes, which is what a great hostess does. One guy asked me to make him a swastika-shaped pancake. I thought it made him seem like a real fuckface, but I made him one. When I gave him the pancake, he looked at it, and looked at me, and said, "You're disgusting."

haha that sounds like a scene from a movie

yeah swastikas are in a real weird spot cause on one hand, you've got the whole symbol of hate and intolerance thing, but on the other hand it's actually a pretty cool and fun shape. fun to draw but totally a forbidden fruit, cause nazis. i saw one etched in to a baseball diamond at a park just the other day in fact, and i remember when i was a lil kid and i built my own shitty bmx bike ramp out of splintery plywood, i spray-painted a swastika on the underside where nobody could see it - i just liked the feeling of getting away with what i knew was probably a pretty serious crime

the ramp was horrible btw just a straightforward wedge that was really scary and unstable and we used it for a few days and then smashed it up and threw it in a storm drain

sort of smells like a college activist heightening the contradictions sort of thing, but i don't necessarily want to sell the white supremacists short.

might as well put this here

http://stigmasucks.com/main.html

whaaaaaaaaat

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x235/lukecccc/89268217.jpg

that guy is preaching power through knowledge

i wonder if he ever left the bathroom

gotta go with "The vandals were civil rights advocates in opposition to the law, using swastikas as a racist symbol by which to disparage the State of Arizona" cuz of the location of the vandalism and the beans as a sort of shorthand (maybe? carlos mencia?)

iirc the phrase "az = nazi" was painted in beans on the ground nearby so

state of arizona v. ralph wiggum

hmmmmm yes that seems quite obvious, but let's consider both sides here shall we i mean maybe that was the white supremacists' way of saying hey arizona is nazi territory, go away mexicans aka "beaners"

(their implied words not mine)

I was gonna say I'm kinda glad it's Arizona that's getting called "nazi land," meaning my old home state of Idaho maybe is distanced from that stigma, but then I remembered I'm moving to Arizona in a few weeks. There's no winning!

The benighted need more good examples living among them, whose very presence and goodness constitutes a powerful rebuke.

xp tucson right? that is cool cause you'll likely have Raul Grijalva as your congressman, he's the one leading the charge to boycott arizona over the bill (and suffering death threats over it, naturally), plus he has ones of the best moustaches in congress and has been known to rock a bolo on occasion

though maybe he would want you to not move to arizona just yet? you'll have to work that out with him i guess.

aimless otm

hmmmmm yes that seems quite obvious, but let's consider both sides here shall we i mean maybe that was the white supremacists' way of saying hey arizona is nazi territory, go away mexicans aka "beaners"

― iiiijjjj, Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:05 PM

could there be a third party, a disgruntled taco bell worker trolling both sides into war??

One time I was making pancakes in shapes, which is what a good hostess does, and taking requests for shapes, which is what a great hostess does. One guy asked me to make him a swastika-shaped pancake. I thought it made him seem like a real fuckface, but I made him one. When I gave him the pancake, he looked at it, and looked at me, and said, "You're disgusting."

― Walter Melon (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:32 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
So funny, classic!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042602595.html

It seems to me that a law allowing individuals to be detained and interrogated on a whim -- and requiring legal residents to carry identification documents, as in a police state -- would send the Tea Partyers into apoplexy. Or is there some kind of exception if the people whose freedoms are being taken away happen to have brown skin and might speak Spanish?

I am confused by the idea of making being an illegal immigrant... illegal. Wasn't it already?

^^^^^^^^^ this

I mean, wtf, a state actually passes a law that IS fascist but yet all of the conservatives I know are thrilled to death with it. Many days I just feel like banging my head against a wall over and over.

(xpost)

yeah it's always been illegal to be an undocumented immigrant, but now, it's legal for the state of arizona to arrest and detain anyone on the suspicion that they're an undocumented immigrant (read: they look hispanic and poor). Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-CA) said you can tell by looking at their shoes. the idea is that by doing this, they'll "catch" and deport more undocumented immigrants, while at the same time violating the civil rights of anyone that physically resembles an undocumented immigrant but is actually a citizen of the united states.

this is a clear separation of powers issue and it will get struck down as unconstitutional, btw. The constitution does not grant the states' the rights to enforce immigration policy.

like, the issue isn't that it's illegal to be in this country without documentation (it is), it's that it is not the states' perogative to enforce those laws.

I think it's more clever than Banksy.

its a good brand for arizona--the refried beans represent latino heritage--the swastika represents fascist purity laws--the fact that it exists represents the states stupidity

It's pretty easy to figure this out; if they used vegetarian refried beans, the vandals were civil rights advocates in opposition to the law, using swastikas as a racist symbol by which to disparage the State of Arizona; if the used regular refried beans, the vandals were white supremacists in support of the law, using refried beans as a racist symbol by which to disparage immigrants.

like, the issue isn't that it's illegal to be in this country without documentation (it is), it's that it is not the states' perogative to enforce those laws.

right, and it seems like most of legal academia agrees with you, fortunately.

I would assume whoever it was used vegetarian refried beans, for better control of texture and line and quicker drying time.

xp

this is one tasty swastika

it begins! i for one welcome the shitstorm of civil discrimination lawsuits that will eventually bankrupt the state of arizona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSzxjd3B8Ik

Isn't there some sort of internet meme that states the longer any debate goes on, the more likely that someone will bring up refried bean swastikas?

x-post over myself

I thought this law doesn't kick in for 90 days or something?

Oh, wait, I see: that was premature pre-legal racial profiling.

I prefer taco sauce hammers and sickles, myself.

like, the issue isn't that it's illegal to be in this country without documentation (it is), it's that it is not the states' perogative to enforce those laws

This is why I've actually been vaguely annoyed to see it referred to as an "immigration bill." Obviously I understand why we refer to it that way. But it's not a law about immigration. The whole function of the law is about police power (to question and detain people for no cause) and civil rights (whether there's a 24/7 burden of proving your immigration/citizenship status). Even calling it an "immigration bill" seems to over-dignify it, as if it's some kind of policy or enforcement change on the topic of immigration.

it also has like nothing to do with separation of powers?

anyway i like swastacos

Even calling it an "immigration bill" seems to over-dignify it, as if it's some kind of policy or enforcement change on the topic of immigration.

it's funny though cause even "immigration bill" is preferable to the bill's actual title, the 'Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act'

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/04/28/hate-group-lawyer-drafted-arizona-anti-immigrant-law/

Arizona’s controversial anti-immigrant law was written by a lawyer at the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), which the Southern Poverty Law Center has listed as an anti-immigrant hate group since 2007. The law, a recipe for racial profiling, would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime and give the police broad power to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally.

FAIR has an extensive track record of racism and bigotry. The group, for example, has accepted $1.2 million from the racist Pioneer Fund, a foundation established to promote the genes of white colonials and fund studies of race, intelligence and genetics. FAIR has employed key staffers who have also joined white supremacist groups; it has board members who write regularly for hate publications; it promotes racist conspiracy theories about Latino immigrants; and it has produced television programming featuring white nationalists.

proud to say I completely ignore this entire thread to say I didn't read read one post.

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