Eberyone has a POSSE?!

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Whyn does eberyone have at posse everywhere I look? I see that this cat has a posse:
http://www.spatch.net/abbie-small2.jpg
The lovely Audry has one
http://www.vgg.com/vgg2/graphics/audreyposse.jpg
and even Ned Raggaar has one
http://members.aol.com/johnnyradpants/nedo.gif
Why at every9one have at a posse except for gool ol Karl?

Karl J Kretzschmar, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

At sticker is all over my house neighborhood.

Karl J Kretzschmar, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sarah's mate has one too:

http://www.atommickbrane.com/mew.jpg

Graham, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I want a t-shirt with the Ned pic on it

electric sound of jim, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wouldn't mind one myself.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Though I really should update the webpage, I'm more 170 pounds at this point.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the corey feldman one

halo halo, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The best thing about the Ned picture is the tagline (even if the smiley is missing its nose).

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wich brings my to this question: At Sherpard Fairys Andre art stupid or revolution?

Karl J Kretzschmar, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In and if you want at posse too My can make you one all i need is you pictuer and stats man.

Karl J Kretzschmar, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just did a paper deconstructing the giant has a posse phenomenon, or rather what has grown out of it. For me it's a scam. Like most marketing, it uses dissonant voice as a fashion statement and turns icons of political and cultural resonance into mere logos for attitude without action, politics without an agenda. He designs for pepsi and virgin and sells giant apparel in major retail outlets.

Timothy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Karl: You will be my best friend forever if you do one featuring Halle Berry.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

http://homepage.mac.com/dtcd/halleberry.gif

I need something to put on my Resume, alright?, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Eberyone.

Graham, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rite answerer TIMOTHY! Now why dont you post at paper in this thread ok man?

Karl J Kretzschmar, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well, the paper is kinda short and has some very subjective moments, but see what you think. I wrote it in a day...blah blah blah.

Deconstructing Shepard Fairey: Andre the Giant Has a Product

Shepard Fairey describes his art as a movement. A movement towards or against what is unclear. A political movement? An artistic or cultural movement? A once playfully irreverent art project that poked fun at branding, cliques, visual commodification and the use of public space now faces complete implosion and hypocrisy by propagating and even intensifying the devices it sought to critique. Shepard Fairey, the young graphic designer behind Andre the Giant Has a Posse, was in a position of popularity and power to stir a generation of politically apathetic youth into social awareness and action with his provocative mixture of design and politics, but instead he chose to sell them more products. As per every capitalist success in America, there is a clever anecdotal story to be told.

The Andre the Giant has a Posse sticker “campaign” began as former RISD student Shepard Fairey’s humorous commentary on the hip-hop inspired and brand-sponsored teams that arose out of early 90’s skate culture. As a college sophomore, he created a spray paint stencil from a random picture in the paper, which happened to be a muddy photograph of the late, great WWF wrestler turned film actor, Andre the Giant. By stenciling the image on t-shirts for his friends and having them claim that Andre the Giant had a posse, Fairey fashioned an arbitrary clique that imitated, in spirit, the groups that young skaters belonged to. When Fairey began producing stickers, friends started putting them up all over town, as if it was a big inside joke. Then they began taking stacks of stickers on road trips, and soon Giant was receiving recognition at the street level in cities across the country. Rumors described the posse as a cult, or a fanclub, a band, or a skate brand. Nobody could say what exactly the stickers referred to, but the fact that people were reacting in such vocal and diverse ways piqued Fairey’s interest. Once he realized that he had a compelling concept, Fairey ran with the idea and developed an entire brand identity for the non-existent product of Andre the Giant. He expanded the project in two crucial ways. First, he built a conceptual manifesto around his (not so) little inside joke. Citing Heidegger’s theory of phenomenology and outlining the principle goals of the project as that of public awareness of the medium of advertising and as a way to observe the mechanics of visual culture, Fairey managed to build a convincing, albeit simplistic theoretical basis to give the project artistic and political credibility. From the original empty Andre the Giant signifier, he developed a defense of its emptiness, and a motive for its distribution:

The FIRST AIM OF PHENOMENOLOGY is to reawaken a sense of wonder about one's environment. The Giant sticker attempts to stimulate curiosity and bring people to question both the sticker and their relationship with their surroundings. Because people are not used to seeing advertisements or propaganda for which the product or motive is not obvious, frequent and novel encounters with the sticker provoke thought and possible frustration, nevertheless revitalizing the viewer's perception and attention to detail. The sticker has no meaning but exists only to cause people to react, to contemplate, and search for meaning in the sticker. Because Giant has a Posse has no actual meaning, the various reactions and interpretations of those who view it reflect their personality and the nature of their sensibilities.

In a sense, he re-packaged the concept as a social experiment in which the hapless status quo was subjected to meaningless imagery in an effort to draw their attention to the plethora of imagery which assaults our senses every day. The experiment plays to aware hipsters, and those who do not know are the victims of Giant’s biting social commentary – that we will consume any image, regardless of its signification, as long as we see it frequently, in a variety of contexts. When Andre the Giant is finally absorbed to the point where we don’t even think twice about his meaningless ugly face, the joke will be on us, for we will have succumbed to the self reflexive system that the stickers knowingly mock. The second and most important development in the sticker campaign was that Fairey soon replaced the raw cut-and-paste aesthetic of the first run of stickers with a slick pastiche of World War era communist propaganda. Simultaneously expanding into poster production and dropping Andre the Giant for simply Giant (due to the threat of litigation by the WWF), the campaign became a fully developed arsenal of propaganda using mostly black, white and red stenciled images of Giant in conjunction with the word “Obey” or simply, “Giant”. The stickers and posters were put up illegally in alleys, on billboards and advertisements, bus shelters and lampposts, much like traditional graffiti tags. The irony of his borrowed political aesthetic seemed to agree nicely with the irony of the lack of physical product, conflating the visual language of communism with the commercial practices of capitalism. The first obvious sophism in this logic of phenomenology is the claim that Fairey was not selling a product. This is a fallacy. Giant has always had a commodity and always will - it is just more obvious now that it has been licensed into retail clothing and accessories. The product is not only the posters and stickers and t-shirts, which sell in galleries and on his website as works of his unique artistic vision, but the attitude professed by the ironically rebellious designs and statements. The ambiguous command to “Obey!” is not only an empty signification of the devices of advertising, but also an empty signification of the techniques of social activism. In this context, the Obey Giant phenomenon’s flashy aesthetic and totally ambiguous dialogue on social disobedience serves to make a once powerful form of immediate social discourse into a mere fashion statement. “All I can say is that even in the commercial applications of Obey/Giant I am attempting to retain the rebellious spirit of the street project (every t-shirt comes with a mini-stencil and manifesto).” In an ever-growing catalogue of Obey Giant designs, once politically charged imagery and culturally specific signifiers are routinely stripped of their resonant value and incorporated into Fairey’s sale of politics as attitude and style. He renders everyone from Noam Chomsky and the Zapatistas to Mao and Che Guevara in a unifying war-era propaganda style, slapped with the Giant logo or the Obey command. Although he claims that he would like to see people take the initiative to find out the origins of his symbols, he gives them no reason to do so. He accuses movements of using figures symbolically for their agendas, “Simplifying them in a way which can never truly reflect the complexity of the individual.” What he does not care to mention is that his work removes those individuals once more, turning them into cultural capital for his art career. He is a consumer - a tourist - of political iconography in an effort to wrest those symbols of all relevant meaning, blurring the lines between cultural sign and corporate logo.

"There is no specific political affiliation behind what I do, only the philosophy "question everything", which is why I can use Jesse Jackson and Joseph Stalin in the same body of work. I also use the word "Obey" in much of my art as a form of reverse psychology. Though most people wish they were independent, many obediently follow the path of least resistance and are uncomfortable with confronting the word "Obey". As disconcerting as the word "Obey" may be, when not attached to any further command, it poses no threat beyond forcing the viewer to face their feelings about obedience."

The lack of threat is exactly what is most disconcerting about Fairey’s work. He appropriates a variety of socially conscious devices and then proceeds to say absolutely nothing in regards to the sources of that material. Nor does he utilize the formula to represent any relevant issues. The experiment is so self-reflexive in its emptiness that it becomes a black hole, assimilating and commodifying dissent. Fairey’s website contains two telling illustrations of this fundamental resistance to actual political content. The first is a disclaimer explaining that he has no affiliation with the creators of “Bin Laden has a Posse”, an obviously politically charged knock-off of the original sticker idea. Although somewhat crude and shocking, the sticker touches on our paranoia of Al Queda’s decentralized, elusive terrorist network. Of all the bootleg stickers that Fairey features on his website such as “Hello Kitty Has a Posse”, and “Bill Nye the Science Guy Has a Posse”, the only one that carries any possible resonance beyond smug imitation or inside joke is the one sticker he refuses to post. References to surveilance, industry, technology, fascism, communism, and organized revolution are pervasive in his designs, but when confronted with a contemporary example of a dangerous or specifically contextualized political idea, Fairey quickly disassociates himself and his “movement”. Another example is that of a poster by a man named “Bob” from San Francisco. Bob used Fairey’s now signature aesthetic to depict images of Al Gore and George W. Bush with the phrase, “Obey. Choose One” below their heads. In a short statement, the poster explains the agency of the American people as individual voters who do not have to necessarily settle for the lesser of two evils. The poster is an independent stab at the two party system, effective in both design and content. On the website Fairey writes, “This is a really cool application of the principals of Obey/Giant to a real world political issue. I encourage activism and this is a perfect example of borrowing from the principals and graphic language of my concept and taking it in one's own direction.” Regardless of the total hypocrisy vis-a-vis the sticker mentioned above, one must also ask, what is the direction of Obey/Giant if not towards activism? Why doesn’t Fairey address these issues in his own work? All signs point towards a consciousness of activism, but the content has been conveniently swept away. Just as the manifesto explains, we are left with only the medium. The medium is the message. And at this point, one realizes that Shepard Fairey just doesn’t care: Instead of engaging in the politics he appropriates, we find him selling his illustration skills and marketing techniques to large corporations under the auspices of BLK/MRKT, a design firm that caters to corporations that would utilize his “guerilla marketing” to target young adults eager to look rebellious by purchasing products that are marketed in a rebellious fashion. His clients include Pepsi Cola, Ford Motor Company, Dreamworks, Levi’s, Netscape and Red Bull, to name only a few. What was once a critical voice, is now teaching big business how to be cool with their biggest market. “Giant's just...I hate it when I start talking about the serious side of it when it's not the main part. The main part is just making fun of everything.” It sure was fun being totally disillusioned by the work of Shepard Fairey.

Timothy, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

YAY GRAHAM!

Dan Perry, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eberyone.

I want a posse!

RJG, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.garycolemanhasaposse.com/propaganda/gd_small.jpg shee-it.

RJG, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That has to be one of my favorite pictures of all time.

Revelation: The Night Rider and Air Wolf theme songs both rip off Transeurope Express. I didn't realize this til my toy boy pointed this out last week.

Nicole, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

When I was six years old I had no idea what kraftwerk was, but i sure as hell knew that Air Wolf and Night Rider rocked my fucking world!!!

Timothy, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bloody hell Nicole, you are so right.

RickyT, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Very sharp observation! Though perhaps they were listening to "Planet Rock." ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the phrase "heidegger's theory of phenomenology" cd be improved, possibly

mark s, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

what the hell does this mean?

Ally, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
classic.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

$20 to the first person who does a posse pic of fiddo here

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

please dont.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

killjoy was here

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

jim have i told you lately that i love you?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

it's been a few weeks now :(

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

mostly i just dont want to be confonted with the ruin of my body emblazoned on a sticker. gimme a couple months.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 27 November 2003 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

jess i think your goal should be to get as fat as orson wells!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

ahh good ol Karl Kretzschmar...i saw him last night.

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Thursday, 27 November 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)


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