JADE MUST KEEP HER CLOVES ON!

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What was she thinking? Best BB Show Ever! The most I've laughed in ages. Alex curdling up asleep on the formica; then harumphin himself in the toilet; Jade starkers of her own volition; Tim purposefully not getting drunk (AGAIN! don't you see? watch, every time...); Kate not having a carpet burn on her head; so much more...

PJ won. Vs Jade, that is.

Naked. Her own volition.

davidh(owie), Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Quite, quite, superb.

Ally C, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

PS Why is "Tell Me What to Buy (March)" filed under Marcello & Laura threads?

davidh(owie), Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I now have a mental image of Jade covered in spices roaming through the BB house. Thanks, David.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ps pj so lost in pj vs jade, what a plonker => he starts a fite then whines when he loses it then pretends to himself he won it and she is upset

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i mean, her picks a stupid fight over nothing (what was it she said/didn't say?); then in the bedroom he makes a big deal of sulking to make her ask "what's wrong", gives surly poutish replies until she says "whatever", THEN kicks off just as she's leaving it alone, rides into her answers claiming she's doing that to him, throws his hands up whe she starts "crying" (she just laughs, quite correctly, given that her crying is ultra-microscopic), then later says "oh she's upset" when actually HE is, moans that she's being emotional when actually HE is etc => oof this is SUCH standard-issue dimwit "bloke" tantrum-behaviour

alex in the bathroom was a prince

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah but to be fair she *was* riding into his answers too and also wasn't actually answering him re. his actual pissed-offness, which was down to her bitching about people behind their backs. I thought it was i) a miserable no-score draw, ii) pretty much typical of all actual real-life arguments in which neither side ever behaves well and if you're unlucky enough to witness it you end up supporting whoever you supported before.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i *so* give jade a free pass, and i don't even know the name of *her* twinkle!!

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You have a petulance fetish.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

jade = punXoR!

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but i think it's more "you are now entering the world of Everything You Know Is Wrong"

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Violet Elizabeth Bott = punXoR!

I think I should be more worried about my ever-growing affection for PJ, though. Maybe it's the new haircut.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tim is STILL apalled by the towel fight! I am finding it v.enlightening as a guide to acceptable behaviour for 29 year olds.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

to pick up on the "free pass" thing, i think one of the things that does turn me off people is sense of entitlement: tim has this hugely, more and more obvious day-to-day (splendid diary room perf tonight); pj i think has it in standard "i am male = more intelligent and rational" form and sophie had it in "i am physically attractive = sane people like me" form => kate i am not really that sure of (i guess i wd argue that she has been pole-axed by the failure of her usual outside strategies to work to her advantage, but actually there's isn't much evidence that her twinkle is use-of-her-looks, despite what i was saying earlier)

alex's sense of entitlement is mostly sublimated into his vast list of Rules of Civilised Behaviour, which is why he is alpha male

i missed most of johnny's funning, and rather like his mordant bleakness => i think he and jade are the only ones who don't have ANY obvious sense of entitlement... jade's petulance is as much an instinctive reactive tactic as her babytalk or her "stupidity"

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jade so does have a sense of entitlement though - she feels entitled to say things whenever and to whoever she wants and if she gets interrupted (or replied to in a way she doesnt like) she will just talk over them, more loudly. In group situations she very rarely has (or, OK, is very rarely shown as having) a conversation in the back- and-forth sense, she just says things.

Now I would guess that you like this selfishness because it works against everyone else's selfishnesses, which tend to be more passive. I can see the appeal of that and I really wish Jade would confront eg Tim more (of course nobody does confront Tim, the great frustration of this BB) or even Alex as it would be more entertaining. But generally that's why Jade annoys me.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm not at all sure that is intelligible (except in regard to tim maybe)

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha sorry i was talking about me not you tom

yeah jade does just talk over everyone all the time, but she doesn't get huffy about the right to it being blocked or anything (i'm not sure that she's aware that she does it and others don't) (also of course no one has worked out how to block it!!), so i wouldn't call that a SENSE of entitlement, just something she does because it sort of works

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i guess my point is she doesn't arrogate special conditions to herself (she wouldn't object if everyone talked over everyone else all the time)

my sistrah when small once piped up when an adult was cutting the cake: "Be fair! Give me the most!"

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No this is true - her idea of conversation is a shouting-loudest contest and if she gets beaten fair enough. I think it's the moderator in me snarling at this.

Tom, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha dear god yes jade NOT to thread

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

have they even twigged tim yet, inside the house? (yes yes i know we are being shown "edited highlights of obnoxious tim-ness", and that what they think may more truly reflect the "real" tim) i haf so far entirely missed the towels stuff

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

her idea of conversation is a shouting-loudest contest

She is right of course. PJ loses by not realising until it is far too late.

EXTREME CLOSE UP of Jade on 6 foot projection screen = even I see her piggyness.

"Arrr. this is it man" = PJ MUST GO!

Alex sleeps in a FONG!

(I liked how the labels for covering up the brandnames were covered in Avery logos)

09011 15 44 04, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't buy "Jade talks over people without realizing it and wouldn't care if others did it to her". There was an incident where someone did just that to her (it was either Jonny or Alex, don't remember which) and she had a mini-fit about how rude the person was even as the offender tried to apologize.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan, how is it that you're into Big Brother? Do you watch webcasts or what?

Nicole, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'Dan' is in fact PJ.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm being really sad and following the updates on the website. I think this is just more proof that I need to move to London.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Goddamit Dan NOBODY needs to move to London. If things ever get that bad, there are people out there who care and don't want to see another life ruined

dave q, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

shocking.

jel --, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah I went to bed early.

N., Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

can we talk "kebab"? is this a shortened version of "badly-packed kebab"?

Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks for bringing back the horror.

Jonnie, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like that special yellow sauce they give you with kebabs in curry houses. Hmm.

Mark, I think your early assumption that Jade = punXor is bearing out less and less as the programme continues - and surely it is Jade who has the greatest feeling of entitlement in the house (just because she cannot necessarily rationalise it as such does not mean it does not exist). Her going off to cry in the corner antics, her aggressive arguing style all screams that she needs to be centre of attention - which is the entitlement she has always had in her life.

Pete, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You are all being horrendously plumpist, if some slender blonde had taken her kit off you would all be cheering (and wanking). Poor Jade.

(NB I didn't see it as I was eating curry - not kebabs - but I think I could've coped)

Emma, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was referring to Alex's thong by the way.Honest.

Jonnie, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

pete the "punxor assumption" was a joke

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh oh and ALex and Kate playing "hide the free toy from the cereal package" in the bedroom at the end, that was classic.

I just think it was a bit sad losing every round of "strip think while you drink". She didn't have to take all her clothes off, and then her puny attempt to hide all her bit was just laughable (as ALex curled up on the range after his previous - would you have thought it - flirtation with Carpet Burn Kate).

Pete, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ok i thought it proasbly wasn't very clear, but "entitlement" as i'm using it is about treatment in respect of a quality [x] assumes themselves to have above and beyond just existing (like classiness or intellect or looks) (i know jade says she thinks she's pretty, but she doesn't claim entitlement because of it)

bear in mind i'm trying to explain why *i* don't get bugged by her (or johnnie) AT ALL, so i am actually exploring a real distinction i am making, even if i am miscuing or misdescribing it.... "aha but!!" doesn't really cut it, unless you can supply a version of the distinction which i am likely to be responding to (thus "she is a brainless teenage girl" won't work as it only quite poorly describes johnny")

mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex's idea of flirting is to bite women's arses.

Emma I am a well known fan of the hem hem larger lady and I felt no such temptation re. Jade. There was something about the drunken squealing and wriggling which was a bit horrible - nothing to do with what was on show. Still grebt TV though.

Tom, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sure but the degree of revulsion people (not here necessarily) seem to have towards Jade's nakedness is quite crappy. The human body is a beautiful thing, man (well not always. In fact not often, but hey, nobody's perfect).

Emma, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure there was much wrong with Jade in the buff. Wouldn't you squeal and wriggle if you were sitting naked and pissed in front of cameras, and for all you know it, millions of wanking lads squatting in front of E4? I liked the fact that her efforts to cover her breasts were so terrible, and her nipples kept escaping! Not because I particularly wanted to see the nipples but because it made clear the cover-up was a performance of false modesty and exhibitionism at the same time, rather than actually wanting to hide anything -- ie if she was bothered would she a) have removed her clothes b) have run off to the diary room in the nip as well?

alext, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think she was actually trying to cover herself, just very ineptly and drunkenly and kind of realised it was a battle she had lost.

Jade is hardly fat.

Graham, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but it's the idea of getting nekkid on live TV AT ALL that's just a bit ugh. it's like scraping the barrel of attention-seekingness, saying "ooh look how desperate *I* am to prove myself a larff and not get voted out by the public cos they might think i'll get me bits out again!" cf. nichola in the first series who was rail-thin, thus proving that weight makes little or no diff.

btw "kebab" as slang for female bits = UGH to the power of 103545.

katie, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

vertical bacon sandwich?

Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Has anyone tried that telephone number that Graham posted yet?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Go on.

1-800 PJ-MUST-GO, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ALANG!!!

i am a vegan you know. heheh

katie, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hummus & Carrot Pitta.

Pete, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i shall not dignify that with a response!

katie, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Can we go back to Kate's "I need a new punani, Davina!" comment?

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've got carpet burns on my face!!!!

Pete, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

news.google.co.uk thread connections:

TV star Jade Goody dies of cancer
Huge crowds expected at Pope mass

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:55 (seventeen years ago)

New poll: cancer screening awareness vs international race relations

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

good luck UK

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03_04/jadecard_302x322.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 March 2009 08:59 (seventeen years ago)

So...it was the flowers that did it?

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:11 (seventeen years ago)

M Night Shyamalan was right all along.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:25 (seventeen years ago)

my thoughts are with the bereaved at this difficult time - heat, ok!, sunday people

admin log special guest star (DG), Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

They're not bereaved yet, they still have tomorrow's editions (and maybe relics for sale, who knows)

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:44 (seventeen years ago)

The funeral issue's still to come. Then they can interview Jack and Jackieyeyeyey week about until the kids are old enough to speak for themselves.

RIP Jade, since no-one else has bothered to say it. Not that the world's a worse place right now for having one less ignorant bully in it or anything.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:47 (seventeen years ago)

^ OTM

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:49 (seventeen years ago)

Dunno what you're talking about, DG. The boys walking behind the coffin is going to make a great front cover shot.

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:49 (seventeen years ago)

ignorant racist bully, surely

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:51 (seventeen years ago)

think that's covered by the ignorant bit.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 09:54 (seventeen years ago)

I'm going to not look at British papers the next week, it's beginning.

"The Essex Princess"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5i6g0DFC_WECw_1bfZ_1pI9cJar3Q

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 11:14 (seventeen years ago)

Oh christ. Still RIP. Way too young to die. Leaving two kids behind. :-(

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Sunday, 22 March 2009 11:19 (seventeen years ago)

Got to hand it to Max Clifford, helpfully letting the public know she made it three hours into Mother's Day. In the first sentence of the press release.

Eeek at spectacle but RIP, cancer sucks.

suggest bánh mi (suzy), Sunday, 22 March 2009 11:23 (seventeen years ago)

Aye, all this pish that's being spouted about how she keeps telling Max Clifford she's just glad that people are considering lowering the age for getting smears as a result of her diagnosis doesn't really alter the fact that if she'd bothered doing anything in response to the results of her own tests for the last few years then she wouldn't be at death's door right now.

How is it pish? It is a fact that it is being considered. It is also a fact that the publicity surrounding this has led to a huge jump in the number of young women having tests and has saved lives. These are good things whether Jade was ignoring the warning signs from her own tests or not. She fucked up, and she's paid for it with her life, hopefully other people are learning from it.

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Sunday, 22 March 2009 11:31 (seventeen years ago)

THIS GENERATION'S DIANA

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

A lot of the things Max Clifford is attributing to her don't sound like things that she would actually say. I wasn't casting aspersions on the content, just the attribution of them. This is more a comment on Clifford than Goody, tbh. I went for my regular smear not that long ago and it took seven weeks for the results to come back, presumably because a lot more people are being tested than usual. This is unequivocally a good thing.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

OK. But this whole thing is still an extremely cynical display by everyone involved. Sadly, not enough people are even noticing that anymore.

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, I was the first to even add an RIP to my post. Cancer can fuck off and stop killing people, that's a given. But, come on, this is the most stage-managed media-friendly death ever, it's practically inviting cynicism by its nature.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:18 (seventeen years ago)

You'd almost think that her dying on Mother's Day was planned...

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:20 (seventeen years ago)

^ not that much cynicism

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:22 (seventeen years ago)

KBP gets a cynic of the day crown to wear with his cape :)

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

Come on, you're thinking it.

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

Stoked about how the BBC have cutted and pasted a few entries from Stephen Fry's Twitter as a 'tribute'. JOURNALISM AS ITS BEST!!

Blancmange Is Playing At My House (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/m4xuk/500px-Dead_goody.jpg

James Mitchell, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

I tried not to laugh there, and failed.

Bit of revisionism from the beeb: "She was later accused of being racist towards Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty"

Calling someone Shilpa Fuckawalla Poppadom on TV = "accused of"

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

Cynical thing I have heard this week: death not announced until after Natasha Richardson was off the front pages.

Haha, anyone heard the interview with the bishop calling her a kind of saint? Mind. Blown.

ailsa, Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

C of E Bishop saying that "In a very real sense, that's a bit like Jesus"?

http://insidestoryflashcards.com/printable_flashcards/images/easy/flabbergasted.jpg

Hongroe Like the Wolf (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 March 2009 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

She died at 3.14 - isn't that suspiciously precise? 3.14, pi, pie, ready for a Mr. Kipling/Bernard Matthews licensing deal?

StanM, Sunday, 22 March 2009 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

Stan, I wonder if we'll have a Morel spectacle on our hands as well. Although in STORY she proclaimed she waq doing well. Or was it some other rag? Can't remember. Or maybe some gossip site I was visiting during my photography class. :-)

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

Ok, after reading the whole bit on the four negative tests: I was a bit hasty in judging she should have pursued it. Apparently they did test her for cancer but appeared it wasn't the case (except the last time duh). Maybe a bit of 20/20 hindsight on my/our part.

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Sunday, 22 March 2009 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

I never really believed the "oh noe positive I no I'll ignore it and do BigBro India and it will go away" posit.

Anyway, am I the only one thinking "Lock thread, it's all been said" ?

Mark G, Monday, 23 March 2009 08:00 (seventeen years ago)

Someone should raise awareness of murder by murdering Max Clifford.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 23 March 2009 09:20 (seventeen years ago)

OK, I was wrong.

Mark G, Monday, 23 March 2009 09:23 (seventeen years ago)

Russell Brand's tribute

Alba, Friday, 27 March 2009 10:13 (seventeen years ago)

The backlash on the Daily Mail site (from readers) hit as soon as she died. So weird to behold.

the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Friday, 27 March 2009 11:45 (seventeen years ago)

It's not really a backlash. Opinion on her is very divided. Sometimes, before she died, the Daily Mail ran separate stories, seemingly aimed at separate constituencies. Anti Jade comments attracted massively positive ratings on some comment threads, but the same comments would have earned equally negative ratings on other threads. The Daily Mail likes to do that - press different buttons.

dubmill, Friday, 27 March 2009 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Jade Goody musical is to be made
By Fiona Pryor
Entertainment reporter, BBC News


Jade Goody passed away on Mothers Day in March
A musical based on Jade Goody's life is being created, a former business partner and friend of the late reality TV star has confirmed.

Danny Hayward, who is in charge of the project, said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

"Jade was just an ordinary girl and the person who plays her will reflect that," he said.

"The most important thing is to give someone a break, just like she got."

'Dream'

He said dates for the auditions will be announced in three weeks' time.

However, Goody's former publicist Max Clifford played down the show.

"It's an idea that's got legs, but it's nothing definite. It's not all signed and sealed, but it's something that's likely to happen."

He added that if the production did go ahead he would help promote it and cast the lead roles.

"I got very close with Jade in the last year and spent a lot of time with her," he said.

Earlier this month, Clifford revealed he had been in talks with several film companies about making a movie based on Goody.

He told Radio 1 Newsbeat that they were "serious discussions" because her "incredible life touched so many people".

Mark G, Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:34 (sixteen years ago)

Danny Hayward, who is in charge of the project, said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

Televised open auditions perhaps? With a phone-in vote?

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 April 2009 11:36 (sixteen years ago)

said he is planning to hold open auditions to fill the lead role of the 27-year-old herself.

Eh?

the innermost wee guy (onimo), Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:12 (sixteen years ago)

Peter Kay would be the nation's choice surely

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:14 (sixteen years ago)

well, matt lucas being unavailable

Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:22 (sixteen years ago)

Peter is a better singer

Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:25 (sixteen years ago)

http://i44.tinypic.com/2mcc4kx.jpg

StanM, Monday, 4 May 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

A beautiful way to donate £30 to a cancer charity:http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4593/jadex.jpg

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Helping women fight and beat cervical cancer.

A minimum of 10% before VAT will go towards Jo's Trust on purchase of this item.

http://www.goldgenie.com/jade-goody-ipod-p-254.html

James Mitchell, Sunday, 14 March 2010 07:49 (sixteen years ago)

Whatever you might think of goldgenie it's true to say that their 'Tinchy Stryder Signature Range iPods' certainly are "Redefining Luxury".

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 14 March 2010 08:55 (sixteen years ago)

"Ten-two, your highness!"

Neil S, Sunday, 14 March 2010 09:07 (sixteen years ago)

Their jade green doesn't look very jade green imo

StanM, Sunday, 14 March 2010 10:13 (sixteen years ago)


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