Palme d'Or winners 2000-2009

I've seen 02, 04, and 07-09, so I''ll try and catch a few more of these before I've decide properly. Out of the ones I've seen it's Cantet, who I definitely need to investigate more.

It's between 01 and 09 for me, an they're so completely different I'm going to need to think hard before casting my vote.

My vote is for: 2007: 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Mungiu)

With 09 in 2nd place.

Wd like to see The Class

haa i thought of doing this yesterday

elephant easily

kinda a shit list, with 2004 being a nadir, also the enduring patronage of weak shit like loach & dardennes

There's a couple of good films on here. Going to have to go with the Haneke. Also, slightly off topic (reminded by L'enfant) - I was reading a history of Haiti recently, and one of Bonaparte's pals (obv referring to events in France) was called 'Malenfant'. Now, my French is terrible, but wouldn't that be 'bad baby'?

More like 'bad child', which isn't so weird if you think of the number of people with the surname Goodchild.

God, that's a horrific list of movies (with Elephant easily the worst as far as I'm concerned). To be fair I haven't seen the Ken Loach movie.

I voted 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days.

"Farenheit 9/11 (Moore)"

thats what happens when someone like tarantino is the head of jury.

the best imo are one out of two:
The Son's Room or 4 Months.

Loach over Polanski. Didn't see Moretti or Haneke.

2005: L'enfant (Dardenne)
2006: The Wind That Shakes the Barley (Loach)
2007: 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Mungiu)
2008: The Class

This is actually a good bunch of films.

polanski

mungiu

1. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Mungiu)
2. The White Ribbon (Haneke)
3. Elephant (Van Sant)

Never saw The Son's Room or The Wind That Shakes the Barley, and still have screener of The White Ribbon on my desk, unwatched.

The rest, ranked:

Elephant
Dancer in the Dark
4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
The Pianist
The Class
Farenheit 9/11
L'enfant

Best I've seen from each competing slate:

2000: Esther Kahn
2001: Mulholland Drive (forgot Shrek was in comp!)
2002: Russian Ark
2003: Dogville
2004: Tropical Malady
2005: Caché
2006: Volver, but haven't seen Southland Tales
2007: Silent Light
2008: Two Lovers
2009: hoping for the best with Enter the Void and/or Visage

is there a site w/a quick rundown of each year's noms?

wikipedia

and yeah, this is a really dire list! fucking michael moore

but haven't seen Southland Tales

You are soooo lucky

2000: Songs From the Second Floor
2001: Mulholland Drive
2002: Punch-Drunk Love or The Son
2003: The Brown Bunny
2004: Tropical Malady
2005: Caché
2006: Marie Antoinette or Southland Tales
2007: Zodiac
2008: Two Lovers or Waltz With Bashir
2009: n/a (seeing A PROPHET tonight, so maybe that)

More like 'bad child', which isn't so weird if you think of the number of people with the surname Goodchild.

Thanks for the clarification Madchen (though I've never met a Goodchild either - but I'll put that down to being Scots)

Also, as far as Elephant goes - is that the most divisive film ever? I'm no fan of Van Sant, but I liked it. Yet lots of people seem to have a violent revulsion to it.

i thought it was pretty amazing

i think it was hampered slightly by the actors & as much as i loved the aesthetic, there were some parts that dragged (most notably the scenes where the kid is developing film), but overall i found it pretty engrossing

Yeah, I've just always been amazed by peoples extreme negative reactions to it. I remember a thread here maybe, I'll go take a peek...

I'm happy to represent the extreme end of the spectrum that believes it's one of the most appalling movies ever.

like... morally?

or just in terms of execution (no pun)

I tried wikipedia jerkstore

i haven't seen that movie but i want to agree with becky just for her username

ive only seen

4m/3w/2d
pianist
elephant
dancer

in that order, i guess. though i like all 4 a lot

Paranoid Park >>> Elephant IMO

I've yet to see the Pianist, L'Enfant or 4/3/2, so I might actually go with Dancer.

07 vs 08... everything else is effing lame

polanski

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki)

^^^
ive seen von trier, polanski, van sant, loach, haneke; not a hard decision.

Paranoid Park >>> Elephant IMO

Yes. Before Milk, which is mainstream, I didn't "get" what VS was attempting until PP.

lol waht xpost, do you know how to use wikipedia? it's v easy to go from one year to the next

von Trier's presence suggests Haneke may not be the most vile prizewinner on the planet

God, DinD is such fucking shit.

The Dardennes' presence suggests Moore may not be the most unimaginative, uninteresting, unartistic prizewinner of the decade.

http://www.verzio.ceu.hu/2009/films/images/Because_We_Were_Born.jpg
i've said this multiple times before but the sound guy for the dardennes made this doc 'because we were born' and it's better than both the son and the child

if done right, Michael Moore's takedown of Obama could be his best film, and Cannes aesthetes will never prize that.

Haven't seen many of these but it'll take a lot to beat The White Ribbon for me

the rare film that gets better the more you think about it afterwards

OTM. Plus, it's funny how annoyed some people are by Haneke.

haven't seen many of these: dancer in the dark was dross; fahrenheit 9/11 execrable; wind that shakes the barley was alright, scenes of skirmishes were egregiously amateurish and politics a bit confusing - conflating anti-treaty with socialism?-; really liked White Ribbon so that.

there haven't been that many great palme d'or winners, viridiana and apocalypse now probably the best with maybe a dozen or so other near greats, generally upper middlebrow tepidity prevails

the third man?
la dolce vita?
blow up?
taxi driver?

didn't consider before 55 when it became palme d'or apparently

sure ymmv w/ individual films and wherever you delimit 'greatness' but i'd say the general picture is pretty clear

taxi driver and blow up could count

i rescreened la dolce vita the other day

shit was tight

I think I'll like UNCLE BOONMEE more than all the 00s winners

the first thought that came to mind! apparently mike leigh's film wasn't terrible enough so tim burton expiated his sins on something interesting

can't win with u guys

apocalypse now = upper middlebrow tepidity

There's a lot of tepid boring stuff littering Palme hisd'Ory, but comparing to the history of Oscar winners, there's no contest.

T/S: Cannes vs. Venice vs. Berlin

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4m/3w/2days and The Class are comfortably the best and The Pianist is the worst by some distance.

went for the class, i really can't decide between that and the mungiu.

apocalypse now = upper middlebrow tepidity

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, May 24, 2010 12:32 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

you may not like this movie, but come onnnn mannn. no.

A really boring list, the only one I haven't seen is White Ribbon, though I pretty much can't stand Haneke. I don't think Fahrenheit 9/11 and Michael Moore are bad so I almost voted for that out of sympathy, but I went with 4 months 3 weeks 2 days. I actually think The Son's Room is the worst film here, I'd take Southland Tales (which was horrible, but genuinely fascinating) over that any day.

HOLY SHIT did "Dancer in the Dark" really win Palme??? Jesus that sort of makes me lose all respect/perceived integrity for the award.

don't worry, It's not really an award worth respecting

I always thought it was! I mean I know stuff like the Oscars are worthless shit but I always attached some sort of prestige/weight to Palme. But I am still young and naive.

The Palme makes just as many idiotic choices, though I don't think Dancer in the Dark is one of their most egregious examples. (Not particularly sure why they felt Von Trier was due exactly then.)

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