Rank these films I just bought at the local going-out-of-business Movie Gallery

voting AND ranking!

1 - Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
2 - Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
3 - Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
4 - Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
5 - Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
6 - The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007)

voted Inland Empire, no contest imho

Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007) - never seen this
Volver (Almodóvar, 2006) - didn't see this either
Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972) - saw this and it is fucking awful, total waste of time

Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)

have not seen the counterfeiters

Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)

haven't seen the other two

haven't seen last tango in many years but man, that scene with brando and his dead wife is jawdropping acting master class

does it involve butter

no just a dude in a room with the corpse of his suicided wife that's all

Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)

"Shallow Grave" is a piece of shit. Boyle is such a terrible filmmaker.

I like that there's not a lot of consensus here.

mm so far 3 out of 5 have Inland Empire at the top

and one has it 2nd from bottom; and Last Tango has a first and a last.

I LIKE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONSENSUS HERE.

...a first and TWO lasts.

volver
shallow grave
inland empire
counterfeiters
lost hwy

havent seen last tango

shallow grave
last tango
lost hwy
volver
inland empire

have not seen the counterfeiters

only ones i *disliked* are the last 2

1. Lost Highway
2. Volver
3. Shallow Grave
4. Inland Empire

Inland Empire is the worst Lynch feature film I've seen, and I've seen them all except for Dune.

Actually, now that I think of it, I've seen all Lynch movies (except for aforementioned Dune) at the cinema. Can't imagine how boring Inland Empire would be on video, when you can't even submerge in the pretty visuals and cool music, you'll just have to sit through the endless, pointless plot.

^^^ so truee

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Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007)
Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)

1. Last Tango in Paris
2. The Counterfeiters, Shallow Grave, Volver (tie)
3. Dumbo vs. Abbott and Costello
4. Mulholland Drive
5. Inland Empire

I haven't seen The Counterfeiters, Shallow Grave, or Volver.

Inland Empire is the worst Lynch feature film I've seen, and I've seen them all except for Dune.

so so rong wtf

Can't imagine how boring Inland Empire would be on video, when you can't even submerge in the pretty visuals and cool music, you'll just have to sit through the endless, pointless plot.

i think you mean dune here

minus the music part; not toto at their best

Inland Empire is the worst Lynch feature film I've seen

But Lost Highway is right there on the list!

Yeah, and it's much better than IE. As good as an actor as Laura Dern is, I much prefer a movie with some kind of a plot and structure to her wandering endlessly through various random scenes, which takes at least 50% of the Inland Empire. (And at 3 hours it's too long anyway.)

lost highway is the one of these that i'd likely watch & enjoy most often, so that

2) inland empire -- massive, but demands so much
3) shallow grave -- wouldn't call it great, but i enjoyed it quite a bit
4) volver -- not bad, but far from my favorite almodovar
5) last tango in paris -- just don't care for it, admirable but dull

haven't seen the counterfeiters

Can't imagine how boring Inland Empire would be on video, when you can't even submerge in the pretty visuals and cool music, you'll just have to sit through the endless, pointless plot.

― Tuomas

b) i remember watching IE and thinking, "this will never work outside the theater." for one thing, it seemed way too fucking murky. as in: impossible-to-see anything murky. but i enjoyed it a hell of a lot on rewatch, even on a relatively small laptop screen. all it took was attention, total darkness and a nice pair of headphones.

Pardon moi for saying this, but some of you have poor taste in cinema. Last Tango in Paris is a cinematic landmark. None of the other in that list are even remotely close. Even if it doesn't fit your so-called tastes, it's still light years better than anything else in the poll. It's like saying you don't care for Francis Bacon paintings, just because they don't really do it for you. Shit, the cinematography and soundtrack alone make it better than those other films. Now, I'm not saying that those other films aren't wonderful, because I like all of them myself, and Bertolucci has put out some sub-standard bullcrap in his career, but the Tango is a pinnacle. Has it become an uncool relic now? If so, then fuck you!

1. Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972) somewhat silly and the critical praise is ridic but i still enjoyed it
2. Volver (Almodóvar, 2006) usually hate almodovar but this was a dece film
3. Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006) too many lynch tropes but still quite interesting
4. Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994) very minor
5. Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997) the bill pullman part is terrible and so incoherent that it ruins the film
6. The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007) nazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzis = OSCAR

1 - Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
2 - Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
...
97 - Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
98 - Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
99 - The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007)
100 - Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)

Crap collection imo

Never met a guy who liked Tango, met a lot of girls who did tho

but some of you have poor taste in cinema. Last Tango in Paris is a cinematic landmark. None of the other in that list are even remotely close. Even if it doesn't fit your so-called tastes, it's still light years better than anything else in the poll. It's like saying you don't care for Francis Bacon paintings, just because they don't really do it for you.

― The Perfect Weapon 2

Comes down to how you define "like"...

"Last Tango," as noted on the "Films You Never Finished" thread, I actually walked out of. (Second half of a double feature at the repertory theater, long night, bad mood, Brando's method acting/grunting...) I'm sure it's a cinematic landmark, and I'm probably due for a re-viewing, but I honestly don't relish the thought.

"good taste" != affection for landmarks. and francis bacon provides a poor defense of your argument. I would hardly expect everyone with good taste (or interesting taste, or intelligent taste, or tasteful taste, or wtf are you trying to say, anyway?) to like bacon. his work can be rather brutal.

Landmark, masterpiece, call it what you like. Affection for the great works is no crime. Brando and Bertolucci actually paid visits to a museum in Paris and studied Bacon paintings off the set. Bacon paintings are used in the opening title sequence as well. It's a Baconian film to the core. By the way, the original story was supposed to be an affair between two men, but the studios were not even about to let that film be made.

Sure, Last Tango has flaws and I see how some could think its "silly". Like what you like. The world would be boring if we all liked the same things.

I'm just saying I'll defend that film as one of the best ever made.

there was nothing in that movie for me to grab onto, what can I say. it was boring and aimless and laughable

the dairy council agrees with you xpost

the central relationship of the film, for example, is so silly and implausible I had a hard time caring about anything involving such ludicrous characters. substandard hetero-male-fantasy nonsense.

making it a male couple would've made more sense, frankly

don't really get what's particularly "landmark" about it - I'm long past the point of caring about what film smashed what taboo ("In the Heat of the Night" also sucks for ex.)

fwiw Tuomas' inexplicable preference for Lost Highway over Inland Empire has something to do with it being "first" iirc.

yeah, I don't get it either.

1. Inland Empire (Lynch, 2006)
2. Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972)
3. Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997)
not seen. Shallow Grave (Boyle, 1994)
not seen. Volver (Almodóvar, 2006)
not seen. The Counterfeiters (Ruzowitzky, 2007)

i'm on record thinking Last Tango is bullshit, but the brando monologues in it are master classes imo, so that elevates it over Lost Highway which is really not worth the trouble.

i'm betting if i saw the almodovar i'd have it at 1.

I like Lost Highway more than Inland Empire because the former is actually watchable.

the unwatchability of IE really got at something primal and powerful... i dunno if i really enjoyed watching it, tbh. but LH is just, like, "man... stuff is so weird!!!"

haven't seen Shallow Grave. Voted IE. LH is mostly a bore.

Brando shd've won his second Oscar for Last Tango, not The Godfather. The Counterfeiters is not bad for an AA-winning Holocaust film.

IE is like a monomunet carved in stone - LH is like the test model, made out of papier mache and toothpicks

monument

I liked monomunet better!

I don't actually see the two movies as having that much in common (except for generally Lynch-ian weirdness.)

do not understand the rabid love for ie at all

*screams, wanders around for a few hours*

I don't actually see the two movies as having that much in common (except for generally Lynch-ian weirdness.)

don't worry Tuomas will be along to explain it all for you shortly, I'm sure...

Some people love being BORED! It's primal and powerful!

Tuomas please don't.

IE didn't bore me - watching it in the theater was more like hypnosis (it does have a diminished impact in home viewing, but it's still pretty breathtaking)

i'm not as in love with it as a lot of ppl here are, but as far as films WmC just bought at the local going-out-of-business Movie Gallery, it's great.

you can't take the breath of snoring nostrils

Watching it in the theater was like watching paint dry. I can't imagine watching at home. I'd probably try to get my picture in picture working.

like watching paint dry

kinda surprised Lynch hasn't already made a film about this tbh

sorry about posting about this so much but how people liked it is just completely incomprehensible to me
I fell asleep like 5 times during this and every time I woke up laura dern looked confused or was crying

I dunno you wanna know what specifically people liked about it, go to the Inland Empire thread (or the best films of the decade thread) - I'm not gonna write a treatise about it here

i am tired of explaining why i think IE is so good, so im just not going to do it again because its just going to descend into "if you dont like it you are a big doo doo head" territory quickly. its not an easy movie to quantify imo, basically if it worked for you, it worked, and if it didnt, you are stupid it didn't.

not at all surprised by the IE love - i loved it. am surprised by the harsh dismissals of lost highway. midsection wanders, but the first 45 min or so are absolutely terrifying, and the climax is brilliant. agree that it anticipates IE in many ways, but disagree that its an inferior film. not as obvious a "masterpiece", but more accessible & conventionally entertaining - these are legit virtues.

explain hot dish

midsection wanders, but the first 45 min or so are absolutely terrifying, and the climax is brilliant.

I can get with this assessment. wasn't trying to be harsh on it above.

every time I woke up laura dern looked confused or was crying

this makes me want to watch it

before i explain hot dish i need you to answer a few questions:

1. Do you believe in magic?
2. Do you believe in Arterial Sclerosis?

xpostss

who else thinks LTiP is MB's last great work?

Uh what about Superman?

I found IE difficult sledding, and not enjoyable at all, which is kind of why I bought a copy -- it deserves at least one more viewing. I'd seen four of these six already before buying copies the other day (haven't seen Volver or The Counterfeiters).

fwiw Tuomas' inexplicable preference for Lost Highway over Inland Empire has something to do with it being "first" iirc.

Er, no. You're thinking about my preference for Lost Highway over Mulholland Drive. My dislike of Inland Empire has something to do with it being "boring and pointless". Mulholland Drive is still a very good movie.

ah right sorry

No prob.

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smart people win again!

LH in 2nd place is surprising.

A very deserved winner, although a shame there's not more love for Volver, which is much better than its low ranking suggests and vastly superior to Shallow fucking Grave.

no, no it isnt

u bros really like lynch huh? inland empire is boring garbage but its cool that it manages so often to look like nothing at all

hey like maybe yr wrong wow

IE = best horror movie of the decade

Yeah! Also best movie pretty much fullstop

lol I'm just trolling Lamp tbh...

I have to adamantly dispute the results of this poll on principle alone. David Lynch at 1 and 2? Even more predictable and boring than my defense of "landmark cinema." Lynch wishes he could've ever cast the late great Brando in one of his films. I'll gladly take this earnest defeat as a symbolic victory of good taste over depraved yet somehow easy agreement. Simply because I'm in the minority I feel justified. A crime has been committed on this forum, and I shall laugh about it from this point on. I actually like all these movies, but this is just too hilarious!

All I have to say is this -- David Lynch plays a shitty guitar.

I'm just having fun by the way. Quite an enjoyable poll!

Where is Perfect Weapon 1 in all this

trolling some other thread presumably

lamp otm